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Have you tried saying no? You might be surprised that you can walk away from a situation like that with a raise.
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Tomz_KV wrote:
My company just announced 10% salary cut for every one
Better that than some folks lose their jobs altogether.
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Have you tried saying no? You might be surprised that you can walk away from a situation like that with a raise.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego. -
Tomz_KV wrote:
My company just announced 10% salary cut for every one
Better that than some folks lose their jobs altogether.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Wow. You should get every other Friday of then. 10% pay cut should go along with a 10% cut in hours that you work. Keep your resume updated and keep your eyes open for another position...
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Better 10% than 100%!
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Tomz_KV wrote:
My company just announced 10% salary cut for every one
So will you be doing 10% less work? Did the company agree in writing to repay you the difference after a period of time?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Tomz_KV wrote:
My company just announced 10% salary cut for every one
So will you be doing 10% less work? Did the company agree in writing to repay you the difference after a period of time?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Same thing was announced at my place just before Christmas.... :-( still, could be worse. Smokie, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. www.geticeberg.com
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Same thing was announced at my place just before Christmas.... :-( still, could be worse. Smokie, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. www.geticeberg.com
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Have you tried saying no? You might be surprised that you can walk away from a situation like that with a raise.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Spot on. It seems many people in this industry are unable or too frightened to negotiate or think laterally in good times let alone difficult times.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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No. Work load and hours will be the same. This is the cut for every one including bosses who in fact took 15% cut.
TOMZ_KV
Wow. Seems like the only winner in this is the company.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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In a company I used to work for, the salary cuts were announced about 3 weeks before the layoffs commenced. They used a sliding scale: senior execs took the biggest whack, and office admin types the least -- I think mine about about 25% or something like that. Severance was 1 week pay per year of service. But, the severance packages were calculated using the "new and improved" salaries! :wtf: Not saying it's going to happen where you are, but as others have noted, keep your ear to the ground and get that resume up to date! Hope your situation turns out alright... -matt
Matt Newby President, Matt Newby Enterprises, Inc. matt@mattnewby.com
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Wow. Seems like the only winner in this is the company.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
Really, seems like staying in business helps all those employed by the company. Furthermore, how do you know the company isn't running in the red even with the pay cuts?
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Really, seems like staying in business helps all those employed by the company. Furthermore, how do you know the company isn't running in the red even with the pay cuts?
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Really, seems like staying in business helps all those employed by the company.
In very simplified terms, I view employment as an agreement to kick ass doing work in return for a pre-agreed compensation. Even more simplified, I am trading my time, skills, experience and, knowledge for money. A move like this regardless of the motivation imo devalues everything that I bring to the table unless they offer something in return. Looking at this from the 1000 ft away basically the OP has been told that he is going to get paid less and if he doesn't like then too bad. Not what I would call a fair exchange. I am assuming here that they weren't allowed any input on this decision
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Furthermore, how do you know the company isn't running in the red even with the pay cuts?
I wouldn't care unless I was a significant share holder, board member or, owner. If that is the case, then why even stay with the company; this may just be a prelude to the doors being padlocked one morning.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
Really, seems like staying in business helps all those employed by the company.
In very simplified terms, I view employment as an agreement to kick ass doing work in return for a pre-agreed compensation. Even more simplified, I am trading my time, skills, experience and, knowledge for money. A move like this regardless of the motivation imo devalues everything that I bring to the table unless they offer something in return. Looking at this from the 1000 ft away basically the OP has been told that he is going to get paid less and if he doesn't like then too bad. Not what I would call a fair exchange. I am assuming here that they weren't allowed any input on this decision
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Furthermore, how do you know the company isn't running in the red even with the pay cuts?
I wouldn't care unless I was a significant share holder, board member or, owner. If that is the case, then why even stay with the company; this may just be a prelude to the doors being padlocked one morning.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
unless they offer something in return.
Yeah, continued employment and benefits.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Chris Austin wrote:
unless they offer something in return.
Yeah, continued employment and benefits.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Yeah, continued employment and benefits.
You are ignoring the very point you made to me. There is no way of knowing if the company will still be around in 1 year, 6 months or, even 1 week. Unless there is some promise to pay the back salary and benefits or added ownership in the company I just don't see the point in becoming a sharecropper.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
Yeah, continued employment and benefits.
You are ignoring the very point you made to me. There is no way of knowing if the company will still be around in 1 year, 6 months or, even 1 week. Unless there is some promise to pay the back salary and benefits or added ownership in the company I just don't see the point in becoming a sharecropper.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
If your company gives you a 10% raise, are you expected to pay it back?
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke