So I have a question?

Oakman

Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

why would legislation be needed to prevent smoking from bars and restaurants?

Because it keeps intemperate old codgers with a license to carry from having to enforce their own version of a smoking ban.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Lost User

Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

airport security naked

Just as long as you're not running. Not that I am insinuating that you're carrying an unconcealed lethal weapon. ;P

wolfbinary

This kind of thing has come up in different parts of the country for some time now I think. In Nebraska they passed a smoking ban with the out of places having keno. If the place has keno smoking is allowed. It's a way for them to generate keno license revenue. It's really dumb. The legislature just used it as a way to increase gambling revenue.

Vikram A Punathambekar

I could have done without reading this just as I'm about to go off to bed :doh:

Cheers, Vıkram.

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Lost User

Sorry for any impending nightmares that you may have :^)

Sahir Shah

Richard A. Abbott wrote:

I'm waiting for the day when people will not be allowed to smoke in their own home

Just get married and you will see that day :~|

Synaptrik

Most people would cater to smoking public. People like me would be extremely limited in consumer choices as I suffer asthma like symptoms from second hand smoke and wind up with chronic bronchitis. I remember that even with the non-smoking sections I'd still not be able to sit in the restaurants. Its a matter of public health. But hey, according to your theory, naked nurses and waiters should be allowed to, as parents could just choose not to bring their kids there. Imagine every hospital having naked nurses (male and female and trans). I mean, you want to target the spending public. In fact lets extend it even further. Under this assumption that business should be free, lets allow segregation. (facetious)

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Oakman

Synaptrik wrote:

But hey, according to your theory, naked nurses and waiters should be allowed to, as parents could just choose not to bring their kids there.

I like it!

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

Shog9 0

Steve_Harris wrote:

Maybe so non-smokers don't have to wander round the streets all night trying to find a non-smoking bar where they can eat and drink without having to put up with the Satan's a***hole stench of smoke?

I doubt it. Unless cig smoke has become considerably more unpleasant in just the last few years. I suspect the health reasons trumped personal choice, at least in most places.

hairy_hats

Of course it was health reasons. Cigarette smoke has always been deeply unpleasant though. At least now I when I go out don't have to change clothes and wash them to get rid of the stench when I get in. X|

Christian Graus

It's been banned here for some time. The issue is one of public health and the cost to society of people having to passively smoke if they want to go out.

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

Reagan Conservative

You hit the nail on the head with that one!! LMAO!! As a married man, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about!

AF Pilot

Rob Graham

You're absolutely right. The needs of the one totally outweigh the needs of the many...

thrakazog

Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

Shouldn't a company have the ability to choose which patrons it wants to cater to?

In an ideal world it might work that way. They've just banned smoking in Oregon and a few bartenders I've talked to have said that business has actually gone up. I suspect that if an individual bar went smoke free when the others didn't, that bar would be avoided by smokers and see a loss of business. If they all go smoke free then smokers don't feel slighted by one establishment and will continue to go. Personally I don't like bars that allow smoking because they smell bad, the smoke irritates my eyes, and gets in my clothes. I don't need the government to fight for me. I can leave once I've had enough. I would however like the option to spray the smokers back with something that stinks and irritates their eyes. But I'm pretty sure if I did that it would be considered assault...

Tim Craig

Steve_Harris wrote:

Of course it was health reasons.

The ban on smoking in California bars and restaurants wasn't based on the health of the patrons but the employees. It went along with the smoking ban in other places of employment.

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