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  • G Gary Kirkham

    I buy the slugs (bullets). The last ones I bought were about 6 months ago...no tags. You can also make bullets, which is fairly inexpensive. You can melt lead over a gas burner and you can buy a mold to form the bullets. You want to avoid pure lead and certain alloys of lead, because they are too soft and will foul your barrel. Wheel balance weights are pretty good, but the best (if you want to push the velocity up) is the lead alloy that was used in linotype machines. Newspapers don't use linotype much any more, so it is hard to find.

    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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    In handling bullets, reloading your own, especially if you make your own, isn't there a significant risk of lead poisoning?

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    • L Lost User

      WTF is it with you lot and guns??!!! And why the hell dos electing Obama make you lot run like headless chickens?

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      Trollslayer wrote:

      WTF is it with you lot and guns??!!!

      Which part of "American" don't you understand? Many of the population groups who came here had very strong cultural memories of tyrants taking their weapons away and than taking away anything resembling a right. The right of self defense therefore became instutitionalized at the very foundation of our civilization. It is considered as sacred and fundamental by most Americans as any right you could mention. A far more pertinent question is: "WTF is it with you lot and abortion and homosexuality?"

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Trollslayer wrote:

        WTF is it with you lot and guns??!!!

        Which part of "American" don't you understand? Many of the population groups who came here had very strong cultural memories of tyrants taking their weapons away and than taking away anything resembling a right. The right of self defense therefore became instutitionalized at the very foundation of our civilization. It is considered as sacred and fundamental by most Americans as any right you could mention. A far more pertinent question is: "WTF is it with you lot and abortion and homosexuality?"

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        Which part of "American" don't you understand? Many of the population groups who came here had very strong cultural memories of tyrants taking their weapons away and than taking away anything resembling a right. The right of self defense therefore became instutitionalized at the very foundation of our civilization. It is considered as sacred and fundamental by most Americans as any right you could mention.

        Is there any conceivable way in which everyone could have their precious firearms confiscated?

        Stan Shannon wrote:

        A far more pertinent question is: "WTF is it with you lot and abortion and homosexuality?"

        How so?

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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          Which part of "American" don't you understand? Many of the population groups who came here had very strong cultural memories of tyrants taking their weapons away and than taking away anything resembling a right. The right of self defense therefore became instutitionalized at the very foundation of our civilization. It is considered as sacred and fundamental by most Americans as any right you could mention.

          Is there any conceivable way in which everyone could have their precious firearms confiscated?

          Stan Shannon wrote:

          A far more pertinent question is: "WTF is it with you lot and abortion and homosexuality?"

          How so?

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          Mike Gaskey, put up a link to youtube on just that subject as it realated to UK. Not sure what day he put it up. --- It will be a gradual process, or perhaps not so gradual. If you read through the thread you would see that some states and federal government (US) are attempting to put tags in ammunition, which will drastically increase cost of ammunition. It's these 'little' steps by which we lose our rights. Buying up ammunition is not an unreasonable response.

          MrPlankton
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          • M MrPlankton

            In handling bullets, reloading your own, especially if you make your own, isn't there a significant risk of lead poisoning?

            MrPlankton
            “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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            Gary Kirkham
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            I don't think there is much danger in handling a lead bullet. The two biggest dangers are getting burned by molten lead and breathing the fumes. If you handle the molten lead carefully and do it in a ventilated area, there isn't too much danger. Lyman makes casting molds and has a good handbook on the subject.

            Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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            • M MrPlankton

              Mike Gaskey, put up a link to youtube on just that subject as it realated to UK. Not sure what day he put it up. --- It will be a gradual process, or perhaps not so gradual. If you read through the thread you would see that some states and federal government (US) are attempting to put tags in ammunition, which will drastically increase cost of ammunition. It's these 'little' steps by which we lose our rights. Buying up ammunition is not an unreasonable response.

              MrPlankton
              “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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              I think that a lot of people should forget this obsession with stockpiling enough weaponry to single-handedly declare war on a small nation and do something about the escalating number of antibiotic resistant pathogens. It's difficult to care about individual rights when you've died of pneumonia or meningitis or whatever.

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                I don't think there is much danger in handling a lead bullet. The two biggest dangers are getting burned by molten lead and breathing the fumes. If you handle the molten lead carefully and do it in a ventilated area, there isn't too much danger. Lyman makes casting molds and has a good handbook on the subject.

                Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                Thanks, I will look into it.

                MrPlankton
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                • S soap brain

                  I think that a lot of people should forget this obsession with stockpiling enough weaponry to single-handedly declare war on a small nation and do something about the escalating number of antibiotic resistant pathogens. It's difficult to care about individual rights when you've died of pneumonia or meningitis or whatever.

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                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  do something about the escalating number of antibiotic resistant pathogens

                  I am doing my part...I take all of the pills the doctor prescribes. Other than spending millions on a home laboratory, what else should I be doing and how would buying a few rounds of ammo here and there distract me from that?

                  Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                  • G Gary Kirkham

                    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                    do something about the escalating number of antibiotic resistant pathogens

                    I am doing my part...I take all of the pills the doctor prescribes. Other than spending millions on a home laboratory, what else should I be doing and how would buying a few rounds of ammo here and there distract me from that?

                    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                    soap brain
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                    Gary Kirkham wrote:

                    I am doing my part...I take all of the pills the doctor prescribes.

                    Nice work! :) :thumbsup:

                    Gary Kirkham wrote:

                    Other than spending millions on a home laboratory, what else should I be doing and how would buying a few rounds of ammo here and there distract me from that?

                    I dunno, get a degree in microbiology and do research or run clinical trials or whatever else you can think of. It was just an example of something better to do.

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                    • S soap brain

                      I think that a lot of people should forget this obsession with stockpiling enough weaponry to single-handedly declare war on a small nation and do something about the escalating number of antibiotic resistant pathogens. It's difficult to care about individual rights when you've died of pneumonia or meningitis or whatever.

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                      I certainly wouldn't tell you what I think your priorities should be. But there are some who would impose on me what they think my priorities should be. I do like to go to the range and plunk at a rc target once a month or so. I would rather use $14 dollar ammunition, rather than $30 as any reasonable person would.

                      MrPlankton
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                      • S soap brain

                        Gary Kirkham wrote:

                        I am doing my part...I take all of the pills the doctor prescribes.

                        Nice work! :) :thumbsup:

                        Gary Kirkham wrote:

                        Other than spending millions on a home laboratory, what else should I be doing and how would buying a few rounds of ammo here and there distract me from that?

                        I dunno, get a degree in microbiology and do research or run clinical trials or whatever else you can think of. It was just an example of something better to do.

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                        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                        something better to do

                        Make a law. Tell them what they should be doing.:~

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                        • S soap brain

                          I think that a lot of people should forget this obsession with stockpiling enough weaponry to single-handedly declare war on a small nation and do something about the escalating number of antibiotic resistant pathogens. It's difficult to care about individual rights when you've died of pneumonia or meningitis or whatever.

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                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                          I think that a lot of people should forget this obsession with stockpiling enough weaponry to single-handedly declare war on a small nation

                          Nawww, we'll leave that to the pansies. We're going to invade East Timor under pretense that we're peacekeepers and then grab all their oil and gas.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                            I certainly wouldn't tell you what I think your priorities should be. But there are some who would impose on me what they think my priorities should be. I do like to go to the range and plunk at a rc target once a month or so. I would rather use $14 dollar ammunition, rather than $30 as any reasonable person would.

                            MrPlankton
                            “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                            MrPlankton wrote:

                            I certainly wouldn't tell you what I think your priorities should be. But there are some who would impose on me what they think my priorities should be.

                            Personally, I don't understand how science or maths could NOT be one of somebody's priorities, but that's just me. It's certainly more interesting and useful than hoarding an absurd number of weapons for no real reason other than it makes you feel manly.

                            MrPlankton wrote:

                            I do like to go to the range and plunk at a rc target once a month or so. I would rather use $14 dollar ammunition, rather than $30 as any reasonable person would.

                            Well yeah, that's all right.

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                              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                              I think that a lot of people should forget this obsession with stockpiling enough weaponry to single-handedly declare war on a small nation

                              Nawww, we'll leave that to the pansies. We're going to invade East Timor under pretense that we're peacekeepers and then grab all their oil and gas.

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                              Oakman wrote:

                              Nawww, we'll leave that to the pansies. We're going to invade East Timor under pretense that we're peacekeepers and then grab all their oil and gas.

                              Disease is a threat greater by many orders of magnitude than any impoverished third-world country. If only pathological research had the kind of resources that the US military does. :omg:

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                                MrPlankton wrote:

                                I certainly wouldn't tell you what I think your priorities should be. But there are some who would impose on me what they think my priorities should be.

                                Personally, I don't understand how science or maths could NOT be one of somebody's priorities, but that's just me. It's certainly more interesting and useful than hoarding an absurd number of weapons for no real reason other than it makes you feel manly.

                                MrPlankton wrote:

                                I do like to go to the range and plunk at a rc target once a month or so. I would rather use $14 dollar ammunition, rather than $30 as any reasonable person would.

                                Well yeah, that's all right.

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                                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                science or maths could NOT be one of somebody's priorities

                                Well yeah, that's all right.

                                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                Well yeah, that's all right.

                                Gee, thanks.

                                MrPlankton
                                “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Nawww, we'll leave that to the pansies. We're going to invade East Timor under pretense that we're peacekeepers and then grab all their oil and gas.

                                  Disease is a threat greater by many orders of magnitude than any impoverished third-world country. If only pathological research had the kind of resources that the US military does. :omg:

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                                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                  If only pathological research had the kind of resources that the US military does

                                  It does. You should see the biological labs at Area 51.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                  • O Oakman

                                    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                    If only pathological research had the kind of resources that the US military does

                                    It does. You should see the biological labs at Area 51.

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    It does. You should see the biological labs at Area 51.

                                    But those are just for the extraterrestrials. I'm talking about the underfunded research into understanding microbes.

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      It does. You should see the biological labs at Area 51.

                                      But those are just for the extraterrestrials. I'm talking about the underfunded research into understanding microbes.

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                                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                      But those are just for the extraterrestrials

                                      Of course. But France was taken over by Ganymedians back in the '80's.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                        I think that a lot of people should forget this obsession with stockpiling enough weaponry to single-handedly declare war on a small nation and do something about the escalating number of antibiotic resistant pathogens. It's difficult to care about individual rights when you've died of pneumonia or meningitis or whatever.

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                                        :laugh: LMAO! You are a funny little kid. :doh:

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                                        • S soap brain

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          Which part of "American" don't you understand? Many of the population groups who came here had very strong cultural memories of tyrants taking their weapons away and than taking away anything resembling a right. The right of self defense therefore became instutitionalized at the very foundation of our civilization. It is considered as sacred and fundamental by most Americans as any right you could mention.

                                          Is there any conceivable way in which everyone could have their precious firearms confiscated?

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          A far more pertinent question is: "WTF is it with you lot and abortion and homosexuality?"

                                          How so?

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                                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                          Is there any conceivable way in which everyone could have their precious firearms confiscated?

                                          Of course, there are many concievable ways. Thats sort of the problem.

                                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                          How so?

                                          Because neither issue has any basis in the foundations of our civilization. They are both completely manufactured, artificial issues. No one ever sacrificed their life in any war so that someone else could abort a child or have anal sex. And I greatly suspect that there are damned few who would do so now.

                                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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