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  • C ColinDavies

    I get upset when I see people saying that the variety of faith you have does not matter, but that you do have faith. If this was true faith would be meaningless as it could be as incorrect as possible. So I thought I'd express some of the reasons why my faith is the best, and theses are not just my opinions but fact. 1. God gives me all the abilities I need when needed, 2. God gives me all the strength I need when needed, 3. I'll get to go to heaven and other denominations will not. 4. My life will be as eternal as the Cosmos being at God's side. Regardz Colin J Davies

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    You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Man, for a minute there I thought you were being serious!


    Faith. Believing in something you *know* isn't true.

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      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Man, for a minute there I thought you were being serious!


      Faith. Believing in something you *know* isn't true.

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      Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: Man, for a minute there I thought you were being serious! Well said !! Regardz Colin J Davies

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        Michael P Butler wrote: Colin^Davies wrote: 3. I'll get to go to heaven and other denominations will not. You'll find that heaven will be a very empty place, just you and Thora Hird. He probably fancies her ;P Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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        Trollslayer wrote: He probably fancies her Maybe I do, and maybe you fancy Allan Greenspan. Regardz Colin J Davies

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        You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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          If God didn't exist, mankind would have to invent him/her. Oh look, there are loads of gods and religions....... Ealine (faintly suspicious fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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          I feel you have digressed in your reponse. However, I was talking about Faith, rather than god's and religions, so the objectivity is totally different. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            In the spirit of the poster, Colin^Davies wrote: 1. God gives me all the abilities I need when needed, 2. God gives me all the strength I need when needed, He's not done a very good job then ;-) Colin^Davies wrote: 3. I'll get to go to heaven and other denominations will not. You'll find that heaven will be a very empty place, just you and Thora Hird. Colin^Davies wrote: 4. My life will be as eternal as the Cosmos being at God's side. What will you do with all that eternity, there will be no CodeProject to browse, the internet certainly won't exist in heaven. Besides God is a big bore, all he goes on about is how he built the Universe in 6 days yet Microsoft can't even fix all the bugs in Windows after 15 years. :-D Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.

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            Michael P Butler wrote: He's not done a very good job then How do you arrive at that conclusion ? Michael P Butler wrote: You'll find that heaven will be a very empty place, just you and Thora Hird. its Dame Thora Hird to you !! Michael P Butler wrote: there will be no CodeProject to browse, Are you certain about that ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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            • C ColinDavies

              I get upset when I see people saying that the variety of faith you have does not matter, but that you do have faith. If this was true faith would be meaningless as it could be as incorrect as possible. So I thought I'd express some of the reasons why my faith is the best, and theses are not just my opinions but fact. 1. God gives me all the abilities I need when needed, 2. God gives me all the strength I need when needed, 3. I'll get to go to heaven and other denominations will not. 4. My life will be as eternal as the Cosmos being at God's side. Regardz Colin J Davies

              Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

              You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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              I think the key term here is "diversity". If enough people have enough different religious beliefs, the odds of at least a few of us being correct increases. Therefore, the odds of some of us getting into some kind of heaven increases proportionantly. If enough of us get into "heaven" the odds also increase that we could actually stage a rebellion and take over heaven. Once we have overthrown God, we could liberate the remainder of our kind from hell, thus gaining control not merely of the physical universe but the meta-physical universe also. Hmmmm... sounds like a plan...

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              • C ColinDavies

                I get upset when I see people saying that the variety of faith you have does not matter, but that you do have faith. If this was true faith would be meaningless as it could be as incorrect as possible. So I thought I'd express some of the reasons why my faith is the best, and theses are not just my opinions but fact. 1. God gives me all the abilities I need when needed, 2. God gives me all the strength I need when needed, 3. I'll get to go to heaven and other denominations will not. 4. My life will be as eternal as the Cosmos being at God's side. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                A few years ago I realised that it is impossible that God exists. I also realized that it is impossible that there is life after death. since I have relalized these things, I cannot understand why some people still thinks that God exists, and that if they lead a good enough life on earth, they will be rewarded after death. Whenever I meet someone who has some sort of faith in these sorts of things I feel pity for them. I fell pity because they are confused about why the hell they are here, that they formed a stupid belief system around God, hell, heaven, jihad etc... Crazy stuff. When will humans ever realize.... Jeremy. Jeremy Pullicino Professional C++ Developer Done any hacking lately?

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                • C ColinDavies

                  Michael P Butler wrote: He's not done a very good job then How do you arrive at that conclusion ? Michael P Butler wrote: You'll find that heaven will be a very empty place, just you and Thora Hird. its Dame Thora Hird to you !! Michael P Butler wrote: there will be no CodeProject to browse, Are you certain about that ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  Colin^Davies wrote: How do you arrive at that conclusion ? Sorry just the first mindless insult I could come up with. ;-) Colin^Davies wrote: there will be no CodeProject to browse, Are you certain about that ? Well, I don't know for sure - but I guess a lot of the contributors will be burning in the fires of Hades. ;P Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.

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                    A few years ago I realised that it is impossible that God exists. I also realized that it is impossible that there is life after death. since I have relalized these things, I cannot understand why some people still thinks that God exists, and that if they lead a good enough life on earth, they will be rewarded after death. Whenever I meet someone who has some sort of faith in these sorts of things I feel pity for them. I fell pity because they are confused about why the hell they are here, that they formed a stupid belief system around God, hell, heaven, jihad etc... Crazy stuff. When will humans ever realize.... Jeremy. Jeremy Pullicino Professional C++ Developer Done any hacking lately?

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                    Jason Henderson
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                    Do you hold a monopoly on intelligence? Just because I believe in God does not make me confused or an idiot. In fact, your unbelief might make me think you are the one confused.

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                    • C ColinDavies

                      Michael P Butler wrote: He's not done a very good job then How do you arrive at that conclusion ? Michael P Butler wrote: You'll find that heaven will be a very empty place, just you and Thora Hird. its Dame Thora Hird to you !! Michael P Butler wrote: there will be no CodeProject to browse, Are you certain about that ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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                      You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                      Colin^Davies wrote: Are you certain about that ? I've heard that heaven only has dialup. They're still waiting for BT to upgrade their exchange.

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                      • C ColinDavies

                        I feel you have digressed in your reponse. However, I was talking about Faith, rather than god's and religions, so the objectivity is totally different. Regardz Colin J Davies

                        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                        You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                        Colin^Davies wrote: I was talking about Faith, rather than god's Then why did you say in your original post that God gives you the strength and the abilities that you need when you need them? That sounds like your talking about god to me. Now, I looked at what you have said, and in respect you belief in your own faith is a good thing, but attributing it to a god may or may not be the right thing. If you are happy with yourself then thats good enough. But to say that your faith is better than others is incorrect, your faith is different to others because it is your faith not theirs, there is no better or worse, there is just personal faith. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 I think I need a new quote, I am on the prowl, so look out for a soft cute furry looking animal, which is really a Hippo in disguise. Its probably me.

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                          I think the key term here is "diversity". If enough people have enough different religious beliefs, the odds of at least a few of us being correct increases. Therefore, the odds of some of us getting into some kind of heaven increases proportionantly. If enough of us get into "heaven" the odds also increase that we could actually stage a rebellion and take over heaven. Once we have overthrown God, we could liberate the remainder of our kind from hell, thus gaining control not merely of the physical universe but the meta-physical universe also. Hmmmm... sounds like a plan...

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                          bitwiser wrote: If enough of us get into "heaven" the odds also increase that we could actually stage a rebellion and take over heaven. Finite cannot defeat infinite.

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                            Colin^Davies wrote: I was talking about Faith, rather than god's Then why did you say in your original post that God gives you the strength and the abilities that you need when you need them? That sounds like your talking about god to me. Now, I looked at what you have said, and in respect you belief in your own faith is a good thing, but attributing it to a god may or may not be the right thing. If you are happy with yourself then thats good enough. But to say that your faith is better than others is incorrect, your faith is different to others because it is your faith not theirs, there is no better or worse, there is just personal faith. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 I think I need a new quote, I am on the prowl, so look out for a soft cute furry looking animal, which is really a Hippo in disguise. Its probably me.

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                            David Wulff
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                            Regardless of Colin's intents (serious or not) that was very well put.


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                            • C ColinDavies

                              pdriley wrote: Really? If you fell of a cliff would he be quick to come in and give you the ability to fly? I know the answer to that, but I see no need to waste God's time by testing my Faith. pdriley wrote: Are we talking spiritual strength or phisical? Definitly both. pdriley wrote: How facetious! If heaven is going to be solely populated by people who believe this, you can keep it. I don't remember anyone saying that you would be welcome ? So there is no dispute in that matter. pdriley wrote: I don't know where to start! And you probably will never know either. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                              You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                              Colin^Davies wrote: I know the answer to that, but I see no need to waste God's time by testing my Faith. I agree totally. Besides, Satan said this to Christ when he was wandering in the wilderness and he said exactly the same thing. Matthew 4:5-7 David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9

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                                Trollslayer wrote: He probably fancies her Maybe I do, and maybe you fancy Allan Greenspan. Regardz Colin J Davies

                                Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                                Ouch! X| David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9

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                                  Colin^Davies wrote: I was talking about Faith, rather than god's Then why did you say in your original post that God gives you the strength and the abilities that you need when you need them? That sounds like your talking about god to me. Now, I looked at what you have said, and in respect you belief in your own faith is a good thing, but attributing it to a god may or may not be the right thing. If you are happy with yourself then thats good enough. But to say that your faith is better than others is incorrect, your faith is different to others because it is your faith not theirs, there is no better or worse, there is just personal faith. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 I think I need a new quote, I am on the prowl, so look out for a soft cute furry looking animal, which is really a Hippo in disguise. Its probably me.

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                                  Roger Allen wrote: But to say that your faith is better than others is incorrect, your faith is different to others because it is your faith not theirs, there is no better or worse, there is just personal faith. But that would mean that there is no absolute truth...only relativism. There is an absolute truth. Otherwise, how can you condemn murderers. But you do condemn murderers, child molesters, burglars, etc., so there has to be "truth" and "right" and "good". So there must be a true religion, right? David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9

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                                    A few years ago I realised that it is impossible that God exists. I also realized that it is impossible that there is life after death. since I have relalized these things, I cannot understand why some people still thinks that God exists, and that if they lead a good enough life on earth, they will be rewarded after death. Whenever I meet someone who has some sort of faith in these sorts of things I feel pity for them. I fell pity because they are confused about why the hell they are here, that they formed a stupid belief system around God, hell, heaven, jihad etc... Crazy stuff. When will humans ever realize.... Jeremy. Jeremy Pullicino Professional C++ Developer Done any hacking lately?

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                                    How do you know there is no God? What makes you the ultimate authority on such things. Besides, how did everything come into existence without God there to make it happen? David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9

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                                      Ultimately, it is up to the individual what faith they adhere to. It is not a matter of which faith it better, but which faith is the truth. We are not saved by our works, but by God's grace alone. (now i will wait for the anti-God Nazis to attack my post...) :(

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                                      Jason Henderson wrote: We are not saved by our works, but by God's grace alone. I couldn't have said that better myself...but, I could quote it: Ephesians 2:8-9 (NASB) For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9

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                                        In the spirit of the poster, Colin^Davies wrote: 1. God gives me all the abilities I need when needed, 2. God gives me all the strength I need when needed, He's not done a very good job then ;-) Colin^Davies wrote: 3. I'll get to go to heaven and other denominations will not. You'll find that heaven will be a very empty place, just you and Thora Hird. Colin^Davies wrote: 4. My life will be as eternal as the Cosmos being at God's side. What will you do with all that eternity, there will be no CodeProject to browse, the internet certainly won't exist in heaven. Besides God is a big bore, all he goes on about is how he built the Universe in 6 days yet Microsoft can't even fix all the bugs in Windows after 15 years. :-D Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.

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                                        Michael P Butler wrote: Besides God is a big bore Actually, I have found that God has a pretty good sense of humor. David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9

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                                          Roger Allen wrote: But to say that your faith is better than others is incorrect, your faith is different to others because it is your faith not theirs, there is no better or worse, there is just personal faith. But that would mean that there is no absolute truth...only relativism. There is an absolute truth. Otherwise, how can you condemn murderers. But you do condemn murderers, child molesters, burglars, etc., so there has to be "truth" and "right" and "good". So there must be a true religion, right? David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9

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                                          David Stone wrote: But that would mean that there is no absolute truth...only relativism. There is an absolute truth. Otherwise, how can you condemn murderers. Yes. I'm sure when I'm in heaven I won't bump into any pedophile priests etc or mass murderers. Heaven has been oversold to the masses with counterfeit tickets, that won't pass inspection. Too many institutions have sold eternal life for fiscal sacrafice, with contradictory viewpoints. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                                          You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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