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  • C Christian Graus

    If they ever have teleporters, no chance in hell I get in one.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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    Paul Unsworth
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    You'll be alright if there's no flies on you... ;)

    oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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    • C Christian Graus

      If they ever have teleporters, no chance in hell I get in one.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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      Steve Echols
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      Chicken....bawk, bawk, bawk!


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      • S Steve Mayfield

        Scientists succeed in teleporting information from one atom to another 3 feet away [^]

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        peterchen
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        I find "teleport" one of the worst misnomer for that. But hey, "IN ZERO SECONDS!!!!!!" isn#t much better.

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        • C Christian Graus

          If they ever have teleporters, no chance in hell I get in one.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          Stuart Dootson
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          Definitely - they'll have software controlling them - and you just know the programmers were (the week before) posting on CP - URGENTZZZ HLP RQRD PLZ

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          • C Caslen

            yeah but there was a hole in the only bucket they had...

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            Henry Minute
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            Caslen wrote:

            but there was a hole in the only bucket they had

            Then patch it, dear Caslen. Dear Caslen, patch it.

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

              Theoretically, the particles could be an infinite distance apart, and viola! instant communication. No speed of light constraints! Wonder why they chose 1 meter, was it the size of the room? :)


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              swjam
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              Steve Echols wrote:

              Wonder why they chose 1 meter

              they're measuring for metric system

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              • C Christian Graus

                If they ever have teleporters, no chance in hell I get in one.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                Roger Wright
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                I teleported home one night With Ron and Sid and Meg. Ron stole Meggie's heart away And I got Sidney's leg.

                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                • M MartinABooker

                  Is that for spiritual reasons, the whole 'what happens to the soul during transit' thing? Or just the whole being blown into millions of itty bitty pieces thing? :)

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                  John M Drescher
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                  MartinABooker wrote:

                  Or just the whole being blown into millions of itty bitty pieces thing?

                  Although I am a religious person, this part scares me a lot more than worrying about the soul. [EDIT]Now when I think of it would you feel this?[/EDIT]

                  John

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                  • S Steve Mayfield

                    Scientists succeed in teleporting information from one atom to another 3 feet away [^]

                    Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                    Daniel Flower
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                    Maybe I'm the only one who misunderstands quantum entanglement here, but how is this in anyway teleportation, or even communication? I thought that when two atoms where entangled, when you observe one, and then the other, you will both see the same thing. However, because you cannot influence the measured result, you cannot communicate. Furthermore, because you don't know when one has been measured, even if the collapse of the wave function happens instantaneously, a message using standard, slower than light communication would need to be transmitted. In other words, entanglement lets you see a random value, with the (amazing) catch that someone with the other particle will see the same random value, when they look.

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                    • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                      Theoretically, the particles could be an infinite distance apart, and viola! instant communication. No speed of light constraints! Wonder why they chose 1 meter, was it the size of the room? :)


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                      Dan Neely
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                      Steve Echols wrote:

                      Theoretically, the particles could be an infinite distance apart, and viola! instant communication.

                      ... of RANDOM INFORMATION ONLY. When you measure the value of one entangled particle you know what the other one is. When you attempt to do anything to set the value of one particle you break the entanglement. This is not, will not, can not, and never will be usable as an actual communication device.

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                      • M MartinABooker

                        I love this stuff, really feels like we're getting somwhere with the whole teleportation thing doesn't it. Once again, science fact only a few years behind science fiction. Its also the very reason 'skynet' scares the crap outta me!

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                        Ray Cassick
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                        I can't say I am getting excited about it. YES, it is cool, but it is REALLY not teleportation, it's about long range communications if you ask me. I guess they are working layers, trying to figure out how to get data form one location to another very fast in an effort to figure out the whole 'take it apart and create a stream' thing latter. Personally, the way communications are speeding up I would work on that harder part first and let the comms people work on the transport in parallel.


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                        • P Paul Unsworth

                          You'll be alright if there's no flies on you... ;)

                          oooo, the Jedi's will feel this one....

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                          Ray Cassick
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                          That's what they have Bio-filters for :)


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                          • D Daniel Flower

                            Maybe I'm the only one who misunderstands quantum entanglement here, but how is this in anyway teleportation, or even communication? I thought that when two atoms where entangled, when you observe one, and then the other, you will both see the same thing. However, because you cannot influence the measured result, you cannot communicate. Furthermore, because you don't know when one has been measured, even if the collapse of the wave function happens instantaneously, a message using standard, slower than light communication would need to be transmitted. In other words, entanglement lets you see a random value, with the (amazing) catch that someone with the other particle will see the same random value, when they look.

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                            MartinABooker
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                            its not in its present form, in any way, teleportation or comunication but It does however demonstrate the instantaneous transfer of information across vast(infinite) distances and therefore qualifies as a 'first step' in the right direction in my opinion. Exciting times!

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                            • D Daniel Flower

                              Maybe I'm the only one who misunderstands quantum entanglement here, but how is this in anyway teleportation, or even communication? I thought that when two atoms where entangled, when you observe one, and then the other, you will both see the same thing. However, because you cannot influence the measured result, you cannot communicate. Furthermore, because you don't know when one has been measured, even if the collapse of the wave function happens instantaneously, a message using standard, slower than light communication would need to be transmitted. In other words, entanglement lets you see a random value, with the (amazing) catch that someone with the other particle will see the same random value, when they look.

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                              peterchen
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                              As I understand, reading "A" is the act of sending the "A was just read" information. But I am not very good at that stuff. If the guys working on it would go on a killing spree everytime a news article about it starts with a Star Trek teleportation reference, we'd... umm.... have a lot of killing sprees in scientific circles. Or something like that.

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                              • D Daniel Flower

                                Maybe I'm the only one who misunderstands quantum entanglement here, but how is this in anyway teleportation, or even communication? I thought that when two atoms where entangled, when you observe one, and then the other, you will both see the same thing. However, because you cannot influence the measured result, you cannot communicate. Furthermore, because you don't know when one has been measured, even if the collapse of the wave function happens instantaneously, a message using standard, slower than light communication would need to be transmitted. In other words, entanglement lets you see a random value, with the (amazing) catch that someone with the other particle will see the same random value, when they look.

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                                Dan Neely
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                                You're not. See my post upthread. IIRC the only thing you have wrong is that the entangled particles will have opposite values (spin up and spin down) not identical ones. Anyway, here's a lance; there're lots of windmills of ignorance we need to tilt at.

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                                • S Steve Mayfield

                                  Scientists succeed in teleporting information from one atom to another 3 feet away [^]

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  The problem is, we need to teleport the atom, not the atom's information. Maybe they should look into XML. :) Marc

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    The problem is, we need to teleport the atom, not the atom's information. Maybe they should look into XML. :) Marc

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                                    MartinABooker
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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    The problem is, we need to teleport the atom, not the atom's information.

                                    But isn't that the same thing if we're talking about atoms......? Starts getting in the realms of philosopy from here on in :)

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                                    • M MartinABooker

                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      The problem is, we need to teleport the atom, not the atom's information.

                                      But isn't that the same thing if we're talking about atoms......? Starts getting in the realms of philosopy from here on in :)

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      MartinABooker wrote:

                                      Starts getting in the realms of philosopy from here on in

                                      Exactly. :) Besides, how do we know what comprises "all" of an atom's information? Isn't that being a bit presumptious? Marc

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                                      • D Dan Neely

                                        Steve Echols wrote:

                                        Theoretically, the particles could be an infinite distance apart, and viola! instant communication.

                                        ... of RANDOM INFORMATION ONLY. When you measure the value of one entangled particle you know what the other one is. When you attempt to do anything to set the value of one particle you break the entanglement. This is not, will not, can not, and never will be usable as an actual communication device.

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                                        Joe Simes
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                                        dan neely wrote:

                                        This is not, will not, can not, and never will be usable as an actual communication device.

                                        Party pooper! ;P

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                                        • H Henry Minute

                                          Caslen wrote:

                                          but there was a hole in the only bucket they had

                                          Then patch it, dear Caslen. Dear Caslen, patch it.

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                          Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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                                          With what shall I patch it, dear Henry, dear Henry? With what shall I patch it, dear Henry, with What? Iain. (you can thank my Mum's record collection for me knowing those lyrics. "With straw" was the next one, but after that I forget!

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