Advertising With TARP Funds Is Tricky Business
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MrPlankton wrote:
Give it time. They have the leverage, they'll use it.
Until it happens, forgive me for calling BS. It won't happen.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
Until it happens, forgive me for calling BS. It won't happen.
You say that all too often, but reality tells a different story.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Until it happens, forgive me for calling BS. It won't happen.
You say that all too often, but reality tells a different story.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
You say that all too often, but reality tells a different story.
The part of reality you're in touch with? :laugh:
"Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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Christian Graus wrote:
Until it happens, forgive me for calling BS. It won't happen.
You say that all too often, but reality tells a different story.
No, reality tells me that conspiracy theorists love clutching at straws. And again, if a corporation exists only b/c the government bailed it out, then it has become a national asset, to whatever degree your government decides to make it one. I am not saying this is a good thing, but it's true.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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No, reality tells me that conspiracy theorists love clutching at straws. And again, if a corporation exists only b/c the government bailed it out, then it has become a national asset, to whatever degree your government decides to make it one. I am not saying this is a good thing, but it's true.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
No, reality tells me that conspiracy theorists
Anything said that doesn't model the utopia that you think you live in is a conspiracy. I had an interesting dream this morning. It was the most bizarre and intense dream I have ever had. In the dream reality as we knew it was not reality at all. I knew something was not right about what I was feeling. I woke up and went back to sleep and the dream continued, but this time I seen the real reality. Everyone was in a machine built from people controlled by a handful of strange creatures. Everyone's thoughts were manipulated through the machinery. Everything you know about current events comes from the TV, and other media. They do control what you believe about the world because they are the only source of your information. Independent minds are the only ones able to draw there own conclusions. You on the other hand are a sponge that repeats what you absorb from your leaders, perpetuating your delusion and the delusion shared by a saddeningly large number of people.
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Christian Graus wrote:
No, reality tells me that conspiracy theorists
Anything said that doesn't model the utopia that you think you live in is a conspiracy. I had an interesting dream this morning. It was the most bizarre and intense dream I have ever had. In the dream reality as we knew it was not reality at all. I knew something was not right about what I was feeling. I woke up and went back to sleep and the dream continued, but this time I seen the real reality. Everyone was in a machine built from people controlled by a handful of strange creatures. Everyone's thoughts were manipulated through the machinery. Everything you know about current events comes from the TV, and other media. They do control what you believe about the world because they are the only source of your information. Independent minds are the only ones able to draw there own conclusions. You on the other hand are a sponge that repeats what you absorb from your leaders, perpetuating your delusion and the delusion shared by a saddeningly large number of people.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Anything said that doesn't model the utopia that you think you live in is a conspirac
Not at all. I don't believe I live in a utopia ( although my life is pretty damn good, perhaps it's more correct to say, I don't believe Americans live in a utopia ).
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
I had an interesting dream this morning.
OK - now I see the basis for your theories......
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Everyone was in a machine built from people controlled by a handful of strange creatures. Everyone's thoughts were manipulated through the machinery.
This means you need to do less drugs. That's all it proves. Oh, and that you feel helpless, which is not surprising. It's also not surprising that I do not feel that way.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Everything you know about current events comes from the TV, and other media
Well, given the internet, it's worse than that. Most people, you included, can believe whatever they like, because they will find a website or youtube video to back up their beliefs.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
They do control what you believe about the world because they are the only source of your information
Bollocks. Like I said, it's worse than that. People have no idea b/c they can choose media sources that back up what they want to believe.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
ndependent minds are the only ones able to draw there own conclusions
This is part of the delusion of grandeur. Most people don't get it, so you are better than them. I'm afraid it's not the case. Most people don't believe it, because it's crap.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
You on the other hand are a sponge that repeats what you absorb from your leaders, perpetuating your delusion and the delusion shared by a saddeningly large number of people.
Yeah. You are parroting your conspiracy videos here. Funny enough, I think my leader is a tosser, and believe close to nothing he says. I don't trust yours much more than that. Just because our leaders are corrupt, does not prove that the most extreme theory you hear has to be true. We've discussed this before, and you have nothing to back up your beliefs. So, you
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CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Anything said that doesn't model the utopia that you think you live in is a conspirac
Not at all. I don't believe I live in a utopia ( although my life is pretty damn good, perhaps it's more correct to say, I don't believe Americans live in a utopia ).
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
I had an interesting dream this morning.
OK - now I see the basis for your theories......
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Everyone was in a machine built from people controlled by a handful of strange creatures. Everyone's thoughts were manipulated through the machinery.
This means you need to do less drugs. That's all it proves. Oh, and that you feel helpless, which is not surprising. It's also not surprising that I do not feel that way.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Everything you know about current events comes from the TV, and other media
Well, given the internet, it's worse than that. Most people, you included, can believe whatever they like, because they will find a website or youtube video to back up their beliefs.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
They do control what you believe about the world because they are the only source of your information
Bollocks. Like I said, it's worse than that. People have no idea b/c they can choose media sources that back up what they want to believe.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
ndependent minds are the only ones able to draw there own conclusions
This is part of the delusion of grandeur. Most people don't get it, so you are better than them. I'm afraid it's not the case. Most people don't believe it, because it's crap.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
You on the other hand are a sponge that repeats what you absorb from your leaders, perpetuating your delusion and the delusion shared by a saddeningly large number of people.
Yeah. You are parroting your conspiracy videos here. Funny enough, I think my leader is a tosser, and believe close to nothing he says. I don't trust yours much more than that. Just because our leaders are corrupt, does not prove that the most extreme theory you hear has to be true. We've discussed this before, and you have nothing to back up your beliefs. So, you
I didn't get my theories from youtube videos or the super-duper-neo-nazi-fascist website you want to believe all my information comes from. I know when information is being withheld or being manipulated to make it seem harmless or good or fact. Its a skill one has to develop when involved with sociopaths, people who get through life through manipulation and lies.
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I didn't get my theories from youtube videos or the super-duper-neo-nazi-fascist website you want to believe all my information comes from. I know when information is being withheld or being manipulated to make it seem harmless or good or fact. Its a skill one has to develop when involved with sociopaths, people who get through life through manipulation and lies.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
I didn't get my theories from youtube videos or the super-duper-neo-nazi-fascist website you want to believe all my information comes from.
OK, b/c youtube is the only source you've ever provided. Either you've got nothing, or you WANT for us all to remain deluded, b/c you're keeping the truth to yourself.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
I know when information is being withheld or being manipulated to make it seem harmless or good or fact. Its a skill one has to develop when involved with sociopaths, people who get through life through manipulation and lies.
This amounts to a pile of crap, sorry. Remember, I never said I trust all the news tells me. I just know that the motivation is the same motivation that the conspiracy sites have, to tell a group of people what they want to hear. The only difference is that CNN has the wisdom to choose a segment and viewpoint big enough to be worth making money off. Otherwise, there is no difference.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
I didn't get my theories from youtube videos or the super-duper-neo-nazi-fascist website you want to believe all my information comes from.
OK, b/c youtube is the only source you've ever provided. Either you've got nothing, or you WANT for us all to remain deluded, b/c you're keeping the truth to yourself.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
I know when information is being withheld or being manipulated to make it seem harmless or good or fact. Its a skill one has to develop when involved with sociopaths, people who get through life through manipulation and lies.
This amounts to a pile of crap, sorry. Remember, I never said I trust all the news tells me. I just know that the motivation is the same motivation that the conspiracy sites have, to tell a group of people what they want to hear. The only difference is that CNN has the wisdom to choose a segment and viewpoint big enough to be worth making money off. Otherwise, there is no difference.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
This amounts to a pile of crap, sorry.
Yeah, manipulation and lies are a big pile of crap. Stop perpetuating it and clean it up.
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Christian Graus wrote:
This amounts to a pile of crap, sorry.
Yeah, manipulation and lies are a big pile of crap. Stop perpetuating it and clean it up.
LOL - so that's all you've got ? Empty rhetoric ? If you want to tell us that there's some grand conspiracy, and all the proof you have is a dream you had, then who is deluded ? Who is the nut job ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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LOL - so that's all you've got ? Empty rhetoric ? If you want to tell us that there's some grand conspiracy, and all the proof you have is a dream you had, then who is deluded ? Who is the nut job ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
LOL - so that's all you've got ? Empty rhetoric ?
Empty Rhetoric should be your name. You build your arguments on top of twisted biased pseudo-logic and then it comes crashing down just like the economy. My dream was just a way of explaining a large complex issue in simple terms. If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics, fractional reserve banking, and history you would understand. When I say research I don't mean look for conclusions, I mean gather the pieces, put them together, and think real hard. You won't do that though.
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Christian Graus wrote:
LOL - so that's all you've got ? Empty rhetoric ?
Empty Rhetoric should be your name. You build your arguments on top of twisted biased pseudo-logic and then it comes crashing down just like the economy. My dream was just a way of explaining a large complex issue in simple terms. If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics, fractional reserve banking, and history you would understand. When I say research I don't mean look for conclusions, I mean gather the pieces, put them together, and think real hard. You won't do that though.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics
OK then, Mr Economics, perhaps you'd like to give a reasonably in-depth treatment of game theory?
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Christian Graus wrote:
LOL - so that's all you've got ? Empty rhetoric ?
Empty Rhetoric should be your name. You build your arguments on top of twisted biased pseudo-logic and then it comes crashing down just like the economy. My dream was just a way of explaining a large complex issue in simple terms. If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics, fractional reserve banking, and history you would understand. When I say research I don't mean look for conclusions, I mean gather the pieces, put them together, and think real hard. You won't do that though.
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics, fractional reserve banking, and history you would understand.
You mean read all those sources you refuse to post ? What are you scared of ?
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
When I say research I don't mean look for conclusions, I mean gather the pieces, put them together, and think real hard. You won't do that though.
OK, so you're saying you came up with these theories all by yourself ? You're the only one who knows ?
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Empty Rhetoric should be your name
Why ? I'm not the one selling anything more than cynicism.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics, fractional reserve banking, and history you would understand.
You mean read all those sources you refuse to post ? What are you scared of ?
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
When I say research I don't mean look for conclusions, I mean gather the pieces, put them together, and think real hard. You won't do that though.
OK, so you're saying you came up with these theories all by yourself ? You're the only one who knows ?
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Empty Rhetoric should be your name
Why ? I'm not the one selling anything more than cynicism.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Do you think that he's been away for a while because: a) He's been in prison after being found stealing from his employer; b) He's been in hospital (mental or otherwise) from the drugs he's been taking; c) He's been too poor to afford an internet connection and has either found an insecure one or robbed a little old lady to buy a prepaid net card... d) Some other reason entirely!
-------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!
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Do you think that he's been away for a while because: a) He's been in prison after being found stealing from his employer; b) He's been in hospital (mental or otherwise) from the drugs he's been taking; c) He's been too poor to afford an internet connection and has either found an insecure one or robbed a little old lady to buy a prepaid net card... d) Some other reason entirely!
-------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!
I'd guess B.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics, fractional reserve banking, and history you would understand.
You mean read all those sources you refuse to post ? What are you scared of ?
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
When I say research I don't mean look for conclusions, I mean gather the pieces, put them together, and think real hard. You won't do that though.
OK, so you're saying you came up with these theories all by yourself ? You're the only one who knows ?
CSS_Shadow(); wrote:
Empty Rhetoric should be your name
Why ? I'm not the one selling anything more than cynicism.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Do you think that he's been away for a while because: a) He's been in prison after being found stealing from his employer; b) He's been in hospital (mental or otherwise) from the drugs he's been taking; c) He's been too poor to afford an internet connection and has either found an insecure one or robbed a little old lady to buy a prepaid net card... d) Some other reason entirely!
-------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!
I was busy experimenting with my own stimulus plan. Spending every dollar I had including my all of credit to support the transition of a handful of people.
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Christian Graus wrote:
LOL - so that's all you've got ? Empty rhetoric ?
Empty Rhetoric should be your name. You build your arguments on top of twisted biased pseudo-logic and then it comes crashing down just like the economy. My dream was just a way of explaining a large complex issue in simple terms. If you would just open your eyes, and do your research on economics, fractional reserve banking, and history you would understand. When I say research I don't mean look for conclusions, I mean gather the pieces, put them together, and think real hard. You won't do that though.
You're an idiot, you realise that?
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You're an idiot, you realise that?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
You're an idiot
That carries no weight coming from a 14 year old brain. You are just a baby.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
You're an idiot
That carries no weight coming from a 14 year old brain. You are just a baby.
Baby, huh? Well, genius, I'm still waiting for you to explain game theory. Or don't you have an understanding of the mathematics of economics?
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Baby, huh? Well, genius, I'm still waiting for you to explain game theory. Or don't you have an understanding of the mathematics of economics?
I'm not out to prove a point. I'm just waiting for reality to smack people in the face and seeing how they react. When I first started posting in the soapbox ranting and raving about political issues and such, people were very against what I was saying. As reality is slowly sinking in, people who originally discounted my views are now expressing views very similar to mine back in the day. Feels good to be right.