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  • J Joe Simes

    Jim (SS) wrote:

    Take out the breads and potatoes and they become the Atkins diet, which is proven to be the healthiest way to lose weight.:cool:

    Yeah I'm sure I'll lose weight as my cholesterol bloated corpse decomposes! ;)

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    Actually, if you follow Atkins strictly, cholesterol and blood pressure decreases. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_research_related_to_low-carbohydrate_diets[^]

    SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill

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    • S Steve Maier

      I like the Garbage Plate myself. They are really good (not good for you tho).

      Steve Maier

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      Dustin Metzgar
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      Ditto on that! Best part of Rochester.

      “Ooh... A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-my-own-grandpa” - Prof. Farnsworth

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      • T thrakazog

        This is why you are fat.[^] This page reads like a list of things I want for lunch. Doh!, now I'm hungry. Least we've got some rice crispy treats in the office.

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        Do people seriously eat that excrement? I mean really? In this day and age with all we know about health and truly good food? I guess some people go out and buy cheap chocolate bars and think they're eating "chocolate" as well. And some people actually start their day with a coke so I shouldn't be surprised. For the price of one of those you can go and buy a fresh chicken some potatoes and carrots and onions and make a delicious, healthy meal with leftovers for a day or two.


        "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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        • J Jim SS

          Actually, if you follow Atkins strictly, cholesterol and blood pressure decreases. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_research_related_to_low-carbohydrate_diets[^]

          SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill

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          Caslen
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          On Wiki therefore must be true... ;)

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          • T thrakazog

            This is why you are fat.[^] This page reads like a list of things I want for lunch. Doh!, now I'm hungry. Least we've got some rice crispy treats in the office.

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            Squirrel Hacker
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            I made it better[^] :-D

            Squirrel Hacker

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            • C Caslen

              On Wiki therefore must be true... ;)

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              Jim SS
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              I agree that it sounds counter-intuitive, based on what we've been told for the last 40+ years by our revered government ("low fat is really good for you"). However, it wouldn't be the first time the government has steered us in the wrong direction or worse. It seems that the longer we listen to the low fat evangelists, the fatter we get. There is support for the idea that different people respond differently to different diets, but here are a few references to articles in accepted peer reviewed journals that tend to support the low carb ideology. Iris Shai, R.D., Ph.D. (July 2008). "Weight Loss with a Low-Carbohydrate, Mediterranean, or Low-Fat Diet.". New England Journal of Medicine 359:229-241. Christopher D. Gardner, PhD (March 2007). "Comparison of the Atkins, Zone, Ornish, and LEARN Diets ...". Journal of the American Medical Association 297 No. 9: 969 Jørgen Vesti Nielsen and Eva Joensson (June 2006). "Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes. Stable improvement of bodyweight and glycemic control during 22 months follow-up". Nutrition and Metabolism 3:22 Thomas L. Halton, Sc. D., Walter C. Willett, M.D., ... (2006). "Low-Carbohydrate-Diet Score and the Risk of Coronary Heart Disease in Women". New England Journal of Medicine 355:1991-2002: 1991 Dariush Mozaffarian, Eric B Rimm and David M Herrington (2004). "Dietary fats, carbohydrate, and progression of coronary atherosclerosis in postmenopausal women". American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 80 (5): 1175-1184. William S. Yancy, Jr., MD, MHS; ... (2004). "A Low-Carbohydrate, Ketogenic Diet versus a Low-Fat Diet To Treat Obesity and Hyperlipidemia". Annals of Internal Medicine 140: 769–777

              SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill

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                I agree that it sounds counter-intuitive, based on what we've been told for the last 40+ years by our revered government ("low fat is really good for you"). However, it wouldn't be the first time the government has steered us in the wrong direction or worse. It seems that the longer we listen to the low fat evangelists, the fatter we get. There is support for the idea that different people respond differently to different diets, but here are a few references to articles in accepted peer reviewed journals that tend to support the low carb ideology. Iris Shai, R.D., Ph.D. (July 2008). "Weight Loss with a Low-Carbohydrate, Mediterranean, or Low-Fat Diet.". New England Journal of Medicine 359:229-241. Christopher D. Gardner, PhD (March 2007). "Comparison of the Atkins, Zone, Ornish, and LEARN Diets ...". Journal of the American Medical Association 297 No. 9: 969 Jørgen Vesti Nielsen and Eva Joensson (June 2006). "Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes. Stable improvement of bodyweight and glycemic control during 22 months follow-up". Nutrition and Metabolism 3:22 Thomas L. Halton, Sc. D., Walter C. Willett, M.D., ... (2006). "Low-Carbohydrate-Diet Score and the Risk of Coronary Heart Disease in Women". New England Journal of Medicine 355:1991-2002: 1991 Dariush Mozaffarian, Eric B Rimm and David M Herrington (2004). "Dietary fats, carbohydrate, and progression of coronary atherosclerosis in postmenopausal women". American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 80 (5): 1175-1184. William S. Yancy, Jr., MD, MHS; ... (2004). "A Low-Carbohydrate, Ketogenic Diet versus a Low-Fat Diet To Treat Obesity and Hyperlipidemia". Annals of Internal Medicine 140: 769–777

                SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill

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                :zzz:

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                  :zzz:

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                  Jim SS
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                  OK, OK. I just want to believe that there is hope for us fat people that love bacon. :sigh:

                  SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill

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                  • J Jim SS

                    OK, OK. I just want to believe that there is hope for us fat people that love bacon. :sigh:

                    SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill

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                    Caslen
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                    Thats why BLTs were invented - its a perfectly healthy salad sandwich - honest!!

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                      On Wiki therefore must be true... ;)

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                      'Struth. I did Atkins for about eight months with about 20 minutes of moderate exercise (dance) each day. I lost 20 pounds in three months, maintained the same weight during the months I didn't have the time to exercise, then lost another eight pounds during the month I got back on the exercise program. I cholesterol went down as did my BP. After about a week I lost the craving for carbs. The only downside is not being able to plan your meals everywhere you went.

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