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    Christian Graus wrote:

    OK, so they do that by stopping people from finding a very small number of anti Obama comments ? How does that work ?

    My guess is that my search was much harder to filter the right way without people noticing so they just removed it completely. Also its a strategic move to help obama.

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    My guess is that my search was much harder to filter the right way without people noticing so they just removed it completely. Also its a strategic move to help obama.

    My guess is that you're insane. Seriously. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=i+hate+obama&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-80[^] What do you claim is being filtered here ?

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      OK, so they do that by stopping people from finding a very small number of anti Obama comments ? How does that work ?

      My guess is that my search was much harder to filter the right way without people noticing so they just removed it completely. Also its a strategic move to help obama.

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      They know how people react to what they find in the search results. They are the media of all media, holder of all information. Everyone trusts google to be a solid source of information about everything known.

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        They know how people react to what they find in the search results. They are the media of all media, holder of all information. Everyone trusts google to be a solid source of information about everything known.

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        Christian Graus
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        Except, I just proved I can google anti obama info easily. And, honestly the only people googling it, are people who agree with it. People don't use the web to expand their horizons, they use it to confirm their beliefs to themselves.

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          Except, I just proved I can google anti obama info easily. And, honestly the only people googling it, are people who agree with it. People don't use the web to expand their horizons, they use it to confirm their beliefs to themselves.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          People don't use the web to expand their horizons, they use it to confirm their beliefs to themselves.

          Which is why Google and the rest of the web is the perfect medium to manipulate people.

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            People don't use the web to expand their horizons, they use it to confirm their beliefs to themselves.

            Which is why Google and the rest of the web is the perfect medium to manipulate people.

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            Christian Graus
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            No, it is of no value at all. People choose where they go, people can write whatever they like, and people read what they want to believe. Which part of 'I can google anti Obama information without any issue', provided with examples, are you failing to understand ? That your one very specific search did nothing, proves nothing. If I want to read bad things about Obama, Google is my friend.

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              http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22obama+is+making+problems+worse%22&btnG=Search&cts=[^] Don't tell me that their are no results for that. I know better. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22making+problems+worse%22+obama&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=[^] On closer inspection it looks like a filtered search.

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              After this site gets indexed you will have a few more. Did you try a control, like yahoo, or msn search? I doubt Google would want to suppress it. Both HateObamanians and LoveObamanians ad revenue for hits is just as good.

              MrPlankton
              “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                No, it is of no value at all. People choose where they go, people can write whatever they like, and people read what they want to believe. Which part of 'I can google anti Obama information without any issue', provided with examples, are you failing to understand ? That your one very specific search did nothing, proves nothing. If I want to read bad things about Obama, Google is my friend.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                Your mind is too weak to understand.

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                  After this site gets indexed you will have a few more. Did you try a control, like yahoo, or msn search? I doubt Google would want to suppress it. Both HateObamanians and LoveObamanians ad revenue for hits is just as good.

                  MrPlankton
                  “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                  With all the absurd things happening and the way that google operates in china, do you really believe google wouldn't manipulate results? :rolleyes:

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                    Your mind is too weak to understand.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Your mind is too weak to understand.

                    Yes, I knew we'd end up at this point. It's the point you always come to. As I keep saying, the feeling that you're better than people who don't 'know' is one of the reasons that people on the outside of society are drawn to conspiracy theories.

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                      CSS_Shadow(); wrote:

                      Your mind is too weak to understand.

                      Yes, I knew we'd end up at this point. It's the point you always come to. As I keep saying, the feeling that you're better than people who don't 'know' is one of the reasons that people on the outside of society are drawn to conspiracy theories.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                      Its like trying to explain algebra to a 3 year old. You are the 3 year old.

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                        Its like trying to explain algebra to a 3 year old. You are the 3 year old.

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                        Its like trying to explain algebra to a 3 year old. You are the 3 year old

                        Thanks for explaining the analogy to me. My mind is weak, after all. Do you not notice that when people try to discuss things with you, you fail to respond to questions and then resort to insults ? Doesn't that make you question yourself, just a little ?

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                          CSS_Shadow(); wrote:

                          Its like trying to explain algebra to a 3 year old. You are the 3 year old

                          Thanks for explaining the analogy to me. My mind is weak, after all. Do you not notice that when people try to discuss things with you, you fail to respond to questions and then resort to insults ? Doesn't that make you question yourself, just a little ?

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Do you not notice that when people try to discuss things with you

                          What you call discussions I call futile attempts to wear me down.

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Doesn't that make you question yourself, just a little ?

                          Not the slightest bit. It makes me question you all and everyone else.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Do you not notice that when people try to discuss things with you

                            What you call discussions I call futile attempts to wear me down.

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Doesn't that make you question yourself, just a little ?

                            Not the slightest bit. It makes me question you all and everyone else.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            What you call discussions I call futile attempts to wear me down.

                            Relabeling things to what they plainly are not, is another thing that conspiracy nuts tend to do. Why is it that you're scared of logical discussion ? What have you got to lose by explaining why it is that you think Google is evil for causing one specific search to fail ?

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                            Not the slightest bit. It makes me question you all and everyone else.

                            Of course it does. See point #1. If I wanted to insult you, I'd say things like 'of course a loser would want to make themselves feel better than others'. But, it seems you're impervious to any form of discussion.

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                              http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22obama+is+making+problems+worse%22&btnG=Search&cts=[^] Don't tell me that their are no results for that. I know better. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22making+problems+worse%22+obama&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=[^] On closer inspection it looks like a filtered search.

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                              On closer inspection it looks like a filtered search.

                              Totally. They're in it with the Scotch-Irish and super-intelligent-German-hamsters to create a new world order where Great Truths can't be easily googled on Google. It gets worse - this search fails as well: http://www.google.com/search?q="paranoid+druggies+ruin+it+for+the+rest+of+us" :omg:

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                                CSS_Shadow(); wrote:

                                On closer inspection it looks like a filtered search.

                                Totally. They're in it with the Scotch-Irish and super-intelligent-German-hamsters to create a new world order where Great Truths can't be easily googled on Google. It gets worse - this search fails as well: http://www.google.com/search?q="paranoid+druggies+ruin+it+for+the+rest+of+us" :omg:

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                                Christian Graus
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                                See, I was dumb enough to try to reason with him. Your way is much better.

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                                  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22obama+is+making+problems+worse%22&btnG=Search&cts=[^] Don't tell me that their are no results for that. I know better. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22making+problems+worse%22+obama&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=[^] On closer inspection it looks like a filtered search.

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                                  You do understand that where you put the quotes makes the difference, right? With your first search it has to be exactly those words in exactly that order. With your second search you have two parameters instead of one.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                    CSS_Shadow(); wrote:

                                    What you call discussions I call futile attempts to wear me down.

                                    Relabeling things to what they plainly are not, is another thing that conspiracy nuts tend to do. Why is it that you're scared of logical discussion ? What have you got to lose by explaining why it is that you think Google is evil for causing one specific search to fail ?

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                                    Not the slightest bit. It makes me question you all and everyone else.

                                    Of course it does. See point #1. If I wanted to insult you, I'd say things like 'of course a loser would want to make themselves feel better than others'. But, it seems you're impervious to any form of discussion.

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                                    Same ol' same ol' Its time you start using your brain for more than drooling on your keyboard like a fool.

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                                      Same ol' same ol' Its time you start using your brain for more than drooling on your keyboard like a fool.

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                                      Same ol' same ol' Its time you start using your brain for more than drooling on your keyboard like a fool.

                                      You're only proving my two points. To recap 1 - you're incapable of discussing your crackpot theories. it's beyond all doubt that I can easily use Google to find anti Obama sites. You cannot explain how this fits with your (overall retarded) theory 2 - when called out on how insane your views are by people willing to try to entertain rational discussion, you have nowhere to hide, so you resort to insults, and generally claim that the fact we disagree with the drivel you're buying into, is proof of our incompetence. When surely your general level of success in life ( or otherwise ) compared to those you speak to, is a general indicator that points in the opposite direction to what you'd like.

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                                        You do understand that where you put the quotes makes the difference, right? With your first search it has to be exactly those words in exactly that order. With your second search you have two parameters instead of one.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Check my discussion with him above to be reminded of the futility of pointing out any sort of facts to this guy.

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                                          Check my discussion with him above to be reminded of the futility of pointing out any sort of facts to this guy.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          Check my discussion with him above to be reminded of the futility of pointing out any sort of facts to this guy

                                          :sigh: Over the weekend I had started to think that maybe he was actually listening to other people and had approached his bank with rationality. Of course, the bank restoring his account and apologising doesn't have to be the truth, does it?

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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