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  • L led mike

    BoneSoft wrote:

    but there are myriad more pressing issues dealing with childrens safety these days.

    Indeed! Kidnappers and Molesters for example. We certainly need to put far more effort into dealing with those monsters than we need to put towards gun control.

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    BoneSoft
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    You're making sense, are you being sarcastic perchance?


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      You're making sense, are you being sarcastic perchance?


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      led mike
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      BoneSoft wrote:

      are you being sarcastic perchance?

      Nope.

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      • L led mike

        BoneSoft wrote:

        are you being sarcastic perchance?

        Nope.

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        BoneSoft
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        Then my apologies. I didn't want to say anything if you weren't, but it's near impossible to tell sometimes.


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        • M Mike Gaskey

          House Bill H.R. 45 1. Require licensing for anybody that owns a gun. 2. Would require photographs and a thumbprint 3. Would require passage of a test that covers: (A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age; (B) the safe handling of firearms; (C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use; (D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and (E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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          BoneSoft
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          How about this[^]? Looks like it's already possibly under attack in the Porkulus bill.


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          • D Doctor Nick

            At what point do any of these things keep you from actually owning a firearm? It isn't my right to know the psycho down the street has one? That's all these measures would do. Worried the men in black suits will come and take them from you?

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            Dan Neely
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            It's simple you implement it the way the Peoples Republic of Tassachusetts has. Have a very small number of seats in the required class and arrange that they're all filled by politically connected/anti-gun people; before announcing the date/times to the general public.

            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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            • B BoneSoft

              Then my apologies. I didn't want to say anything if you weren't, but it's near impossible to tell sometimes.


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              led mike
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              BoneSoft wrote:

              but it's near impossible to tell sometimes.

              Yeah, I know, that's on me. I try to keep that in mind when reading replies. I love to see the humor in things whenever possible. These days it seems there is a lot of material around. While I might joke about what I would like to do to perpetrators I don't believe I would joke about the victims. Child Molesters (anyone that preys on children), Rapists or any violence against women, Terrorists are all the scum of the earth for me. Sure there are others but those just cause my blood to boil.

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              • B BoneSoft

                I was caught in a similar job a while back. Problem was, this massive VB web project didn't want to convert to C#. As far as I know they're still running that VB.Net, framework 1.1 app. :doh:


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                Oakman
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                BoneSoft wrote:

                this massive VB web project didn't want to convert to C#.

                Why in God's name, would they? :confused: Anybody who calls himherself a .NET programmer and can't work in both languages is kidding himself. I note that on your website, you don't say that you won't sell your work to people using VB. . . Presumably that's because it doesn't make any difference which language they are using - any difference at all.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                • D Dan Neely

                  It's simple you implement it the way the Peoples Republic of Tassachusetts has. Have a very small number of seats in the required class and arrange that they're all filled by politically connected/anti-gun people; before announcing the date/times to the general public.

                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                  Doctor Nick
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                  Ooooo that's good. Man, I'm going to start trying to make a living of figure out loopholes to screw people out of their rights. It might even land me in government someday :laugh: Seriously that's messed up. Surprised nobody has brought this up and held their reps accountable to change the law.

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                  • M Mike Gaskey

                    House Bill H.R. 45 1. Require licensing for anybody that owns a gun. 2. Would require photographs and a thumbprint 3. Would require passage of a test that covers: (A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age; (B) the safe handling of firearms; (C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use; (D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and (E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

                    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                    "Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." ~ U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein; Associated Press, November 18, 1993 "And, I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I'd walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me." ~ U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein; C-Span April 27, 1995

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                      Ooooo that's good. Man, I'm going to start trying to make a living of figure out loopholes to screw people out of their rights. It might even land me in government someday :laugh: Seriously that's messed up. Surprised nobody has brought this up and held their reps accountable to change the law.

                      ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                      Dan Neely
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                      your average masshole is quite happy with having bureaucratically disarmed his neighbors and would soil his lace panties if handed a gun so it doesn't bother him personally. X|

                      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                      • D Dan Neely

                        your average masshole is quite happy with having bureaucratically disarmed his neighbors and would soil his lace panties if handed a gun so it doesn't bother him personally. X|

                        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                        Doctor Nick
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                        I visit the peoples republic once in awhile. My aunt lives out there so I'm aware. It's quite interesting talking with her about politics and such because coming from Iowa she grew up more or less conservative and to live in the midst of so many liberals but still keep her views is interesting. Much like me she's more moderate and flexible but it's still interesting to watch what goes on out there. Pure entertainment if you don't live there :laugh:

                        ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                        • M Mike Gaskey

                          House Bill H.R. 45 1. Require licensing for anybody that owns a gun. 2. Would require photographs and a thumbprint 3. Would require passage of a test that covers: (A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age; (B) the safe handling of firearms; (C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use; (D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and (E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

                          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Wow - this is just insane. They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                          • O Oakman

                            "Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." ~ U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein; Associated Press, November 18, 1993 "And, I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I'd walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me." ~ U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein; C-Span April 27, 1995

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                            Doctor Nick
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                            Wow, Feinstein the cold blooded killer. Who would have thought? :laugh:

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              Wow - this is just insane. They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                              Doctor Nick
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                              I think his issue is with the last point.

                              ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                Wow - this is just insane. They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                Oakman
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

                                A friend of mine -- an avowed socialist and Castro sympathiser, for whatever that might be worth once pointed out that whatever the government wants to control, it claims it is doing it to protect the children. One of the most respected liberal Supreme Court judges we have ever had said, "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding" And for the record, I've never killed anybody the government didn't ask me to. I have a weapon to make sure that it's difficult for any member of MS13 to kill me.

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                • L led mike

                                  BoneSoft wrote:

                                  but it's near impossible to tell sometimes.

                                  Yeah, I know, that's on me. I try to keep that in mind when reading replies. I love to see the humor in things whenever possible. These days it seems there is a lot of material around. While I might joke about what I would like to do to perpetrators I don't believe I would joke about the victims. Child Molesters (anyone that preys on children), Rapists or any violence against women, Terrorists are all the scum of the earth for me. Sure there are others but those just cause my blood to boil.

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                                  BoneSoft
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                                  led mike wrote:

                                  Child Molesters (anyone that preys on children), Rapists or any violence against women, Terrorists are all the scum of the earth for me.

                                  Agreed. The worst of evil humans. Might add con men who soak old people for all their worth too. People who prey on others are evil, those who do it to the most vunerable are the most dispicable.


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                                  • O Oakman

                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

                                    A friend of mine -- an avowed socialist and Castro sympathiser, for whatever that might be worth once pointed out that whatever the government wants to control, it claims it is doing it to protect the children. One of the most respected liberal Supreme Court judges we have ever had said, "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding" And for the record, I've never killed anybody the government didn't ask me to. I have a weapon to make sure that it's difficult for any member of MS13 to kill me.

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    whatever the government wants to control, it claims it is doing it to protect the children.

                                    I have no doubt. But, are you denying that kids getting access to guns is a problem in the US, one that leads to deaths of said children ?

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                                    The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding"

                                    Yes, but the 'liberty' to own guns is bloody stupid, and the defences and reasons given for it, insane.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                      I think his issue is with the last point.

                                      ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                                      Yeah, I bet when they wrote that, they were giggling over what the gun nuts will presume those extra clauses to be. I wonder if they did it so they had something they were happy to remove, if they have to negotiate to get this piece of common sense to become law.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        BoneSoft wrote:

                                        this massive VB web project didn't want to convert to C#.

                                        Why in God's name, would they? :confused: Anybody who calls himherself a .NET programmer and can't work in both languages is kidding himself. I note that on your website, you don't say that you won't sell your work to people using VB. . . Presumably that's because it doesn't make any difference which language they are using - any difference at all.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                        BoneSoft
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                                        Working with VB.Net and enjoying it are two vastly different things. However, to answer your question of why would they, I'm not completely sure what my boss' motives were other than he wanted to work with C# because he hadn't learned it. One of many reasons I'm happy to now be employed elsewhere. :-D


                                        Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                        • O Oakman

                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          They are attacking your right to kill stuff, just to make sure kids can't get at guns ? Those BASTARDS !!!!

                                          A friend of mine -- an avowed socialist and Castro sympathiser, for whatever that might be worth once pointed out that whatever the government wants to control, it claims it is doing it to protect the children. One of the most respected liberal Supreme Court judges we have ever had said, "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding" And for the record, I've never killed anybody the government didn't ask me to. I have a weapon to make sure that it's difficult for any member of MS13 to kill me.

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                          Doctor Nick
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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding

                                          Obviously none of the current congress remember this quote. Or rather maybe the people who voted these fools in don't konw about it based on how things are going at the moment...

                                          ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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