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  • C Christian Graus

    Well, that's true. There's also profit to be made in people writing books about how they have been unfairly dealt with. I tell my kids that all the time, when they complain I am unfair, I say 'write it down, for notes for when you write the story of how bad your childhood was'.

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    Oakman
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    I tell my kids that all the time, when they complain I am unfair, I say 'write it down, for notes for when you write the story of how bad your childhood was'.

    What kind of a parent are you? Your kids have things to do. You should write it down for them. And store a copy on-line in case of HD crash.

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    • C Christian Graus

      Yeah, I agree. The only reason to own a knife is to behead your wife. So, it's exactly like a gun. That's not retarded at all.

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      You seem to have a one sided view of guns. I don't see you calling for the banning of swords, bow and arrows, etc. When someone points out there bad uses, you put them down. That's not retarded at all, either.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I tell my kids that all the time, when they complain I am unfair, I say 'write it down, for notes for when you write the story of how bad your childhood was'.

        What kind of a parent are you? Your kids have things to do. You should write it down for them. And store a copy on-line in case of HD crash.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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        Yeah, my daughter tells me that sort of stuff all the time, too. I got told last night she can't clean her room b/c she has homework now.

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        • C Christian Graus

          MrPlankton wrote:

          If she applied for and was allowed to wear a concealed firearm, she might still be alive today

          I agree. Why are we paying police when we could just arm the populace and live in the wild west ? Hell, I say whoever wins the gunfight, must have been the one in the right.

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          I agree. Why are we paying police when we could just arm the populace and live in the wild west ? Hell, I say whoever wins the gunfight, must have been the one in the right.

          I see your point. Luckily, the police were right there to stop her husband, or she might have died.

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            MrPlankton wrote:

            If she applied for and was allowed to wear a concealed firearm, she might still be alive today

            I agree. Why are we paying police when we could just arm the populace and live in the wild west ? Hell, I say whoever wins the gunfight, must have been the one in the right.

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            we could just arm the populace and live in the wild west ? Hell, I say whoever wins the gunfight, must have been the one in the right.

            now you're on to something.

            Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              I agree. Why are we paying police when we could just arm the populace and live in the wild west ? Hell, I say whoever wins the gunfight, must have been the one in the right.

              I see your point. Luckily, the police were right there to stop her husband, or she might have died.

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              Christian Graus
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              RichardM1 wrote:

              Luckily, the police were right there to stop her husband, or she might have died.

              Exactly my point. The current system plainly cannot stop EVERY murder, but arming the populace, plainly can. I do think the US needs to do background checks before deciding which immigrants are given a gun on entry to the country, I mean, we don't want to go overboard.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                we could just arm the populace and live in the wild west ? Hell, I say whoever wins the gunfight, must have been the one in the right.

                now you're on to something.

                Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                Christian Graus
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                It's just like Stan's brilliant social justice program. The people who are too poor, obviously are lazy. The people who die, were obviously guilty. The winners write the rules, and write history. everyone wins, except people who don't matter.

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                  You seem to have a one sided view of guns. I don't see you calling for the banning of swords, bow and arrows, etc. When someone points out there bad uses, you put them down. That's not retarded at all, either.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  RichardM1 wrote:

                  You seem to have a one sided view of guns.

                  What, I think they are for shooting things ? What else are they for ?

                  RichardM1 wrote:

                  I don't see you calling for the banning of swords, bow and arrows, etc.

                  Yeah, there's a real issue with bow and arrow deaths, robberys done with swords, etc. I think ownership of such things should be equally restricted, but it sure as hell isn't as much of a problem.

                  RichardM1 wrote:

                  When someone points out there bad uses, you put them down.

                  No-one has brought up swords and bows and arrows. So far, the list is knives, and cars. Cars kill more people than guns, therefore guns should not be banned until cars are. THAT is the definition of retarded.

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                    RichardM1 wrote:

                    You seem to have a one sided view of guns.

                    What, I think they are for shooting things ? What else are they for ?

                    RichardM1 wrote:

                    I don't see you calling for the banning of swords, bow and arrows, etc.

                    Yeah, there's a real issue with bow and arrow deaths, robberys done with swords, etc. I think ownership of such things should be equally restricted, but it sure as hell isn't as much of a problem.

                    RichardM1 wrote:

                    When someone points out there bad uses, you put them down.

                    No-one has brought up swords and bows and arrows. So far, the list is knives, and cars. Cars kill more people than guns, therefore guns should not be banned until cars are. THAT is the definition of retarded.

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                    _Damian S_
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                    I have some nice swords (katana)... one in particular was given to me last year, and is literally sharp enough to shave with!! I don't let the kids touch that one...

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      It's just like Stan's brilliant social justice program. The people who are too poor, obviously are lazy. The people who die, were obviously guilty. The winners write the rules, and write history. everyone wins, except people who don't matter.

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      It's just

                      Christian, we'll never agree but I gotta give you props for consistincey. re: the death penalty, Catholism, Christianity in general, and, lightly, Judaism. I just finished a novel that my wife had recommended. When I picked it up my immediate reaction was, "Chick Lit". I read it and was blown away, really made me kick back and think. If you get a chance to pick it up, I think you'd find it very interesting. The title is, "Change of Heart". Based on this link [^] it's being made into a flick, the trailer really doesn't do it justice. I thought you might find it interesting, we've debated a lot of what is covered in the novel.

                      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                        I have some nice swords (katana)... one in particular was given to me last year, and is literally sharp enough to shave with!! I don't let the kids touch that one...

                        Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!! Booger Mobile - Camp Quality esCarpade 2010

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                        *grin* I'm sure you don't. Do you shave with it tho ?

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          It's just

                          Christian, we'll never agree but I gotta give you props for consistincey. re: the death penalty, Catholism, Christianity in general, and, lightly, Judaism. I just finished a novel that my wife had recommended. When I picked it up my immediate reaction was, "Chick Lit". I read it and was blown away, really made me kick back and think. If you get a chance to pick it up, I think you'd find it very interesting. The title is, "Change of Heart". Based on this link [^] it's being made into a flick, the trailer really doesn't do it justice. I thought you might find it interesting, we've debated a lot of what is covered in the novel.

                          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Thanks Mike, it sure sounds like the makings of a chick flick, but I've added it to my Amazon basket, based on your recommendation.

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            It's just like Stan's brilliant social justice program. The people who are too poor, obviously are lazy. The people who die, were obviously guilty. The winners write the rules, and write history. everyone wins, except people who don't matter.

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                            Stan Shannon
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            It's just like Stan's brilliant social justice program. The people who are too poor, obviously are lazy. The people who die, were obviously guilty. The winners write the rules, and write history. everyone wins, except people who don't matter.

                            As, of course, compared to your own - implement ineffective and unworkable collectivist, centrally planned, social programs for the purpose of making sure that everyone is poor and starving.

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              It's just like Stan's brilliant social justice program. The people who are too poor, obviously are lazy. The people who die, were obviously guilty. The winners write the rules, and write history. everyone wins, except people who don't matter.

                              As, of course, compared to your own - implement ineffective and unworkable collectivist, centrally planned, social programs for the purpose of making sure that everyone is poor and starving.

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              ineffective and unworkable

                              Plainly not

                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              collectivist

                              Obviously not

                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              centrally planned

                              As opposed to not planned at all, ad hoc and arbitrary ?

                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              social programs for the purpose of making sure that everyone is poor and starving.

                              Yes, because if we were to help people in need, we'd all starve. The money/food/etc would just evaporate, right ?

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                                *grin* I'm sure you don't. Do you shave with it tho ?

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                                _Damian S_
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                                Took some hair off my arm to demonstrate just how sharp it is... other than that, no, too unwieldy!! Besides, one slip could change my religion!!

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                                    Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                    I don't guess that's working out too well for him.

                                    Well, he didn't stone her to death. I suppose that is some kind of positive change.

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Well, he didn't stone her to death. I suppose that is some kind of positive change.

                                    That's more a community project. Perhaps he merely didn't have the time to organize it.

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                                      Took some hair off my arm to demonstrate just how sharp it is... other than that, no, too unwieldy!! Besides, one slip could change my religion!!

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      My wife threatens to change my religion from time to time. And she doesn't have that sharp a knife to do it with.....

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Well, he didn't stone her to death. I suppose that is some kind of positive change.

                                        That's more a community project. Perhaps he merely didn't have the time to organize it.

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                                        Or it means he couldn't find anyone to help out.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          ineffective and unworkable

                                          Plainly not

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          collectivist

                                          Obviously not

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          centrally planned

                                          As opposed to not planned at all, ad hoc and arbitrary ?

                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          social programs for the purpose of making sure that everyone is poor and starving.

                                          Yes, because if we were to help people in need, we'd all starve. The money/food/etc would just evaporate, right ?

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                                          Stan Shannon
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                                          My description of your attitude is as accurate, fair, and valid as is your's of mine.

                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          The money/food/etc would just evaporate, right ?

                                          Economic efficiency feeds more people than does economic inefficiency. At some point, any economy must err on the side of efficiency if it is to survive regardless of the demands that efficiency must place on those at the bottom. My opinion is that it is best to err on the side of expecting every able bodied person to be as productive as they possibly can be, and to rely upon the good will of the society itself to provide for everyone else rather than relying upon a political bureaucracy to manage wealth in a way they feel appropriate by means of forced confiscation of wealth. When I reach into my own pocket to help the less fortunant, it is an honorable, noble, laudable act. When you reach into my pocket for exactly the same purpose, it is nothing but theft.

                                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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