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Christian Graus

Mike Gaskey wrote:

That fact may account for the significant number of Black families that are also members of the parish.

Do people really join a church based on research into the name ?

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Mike Gaskey

Christian Graus wrote:

Do people really join a church based on research into the name ?

I don't but I think our congregation has a higher percentage of Blacks than I would consider typical. not suggesting a scientific measure, just a casual observation.

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Mike Gaskey

Trollslayer wrote:

I'm with Blazing Saddles!

I hate to be dense, but I don't understand the reference.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Mike Gaskey

Mike Gaskey wrote:

I hate to be dense, but I don't understand the reference.

Okay, should have googled it first.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Stan Shannon

Mike Gaskey wrote:

I'm a Roman Catholic and my parish is St. Monica's. Saint Monica was African. That fact may account for the significant number of Black families that are also members of the parish.

By any chance do you know a family named Morris that attends there?

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Stan Shannon

Christian Graus wrote:

However, I think in general, it's probably true that the generation that saw the 50s will have to die out before there's a persistent and probably largely no longer relevant memory of past racism. On the other hand, so long as folks like CSS are still about, it's obvious that there are still enclaves of racism in society.

You might stamp out racism, but the notion that any of this nonsense is going to change anything basic to human nature is ludicrous. Human beings love to hate one another, and they will always find a reason. So, I find the entire racism issue to be a boring waste of time. I don't care if people hate other races any more than I do if they hate people who vote republican or drive SUVs or butter their bread on the wrong side. Its all the same damn thing.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Christian Graus

Fair enough. My daughter goes to a Catholic school now, so I'm interested in understanding them a little better.

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Christian Graus

Stan Shannon wrote:

Human beings love to hate one another, and they will always find a reason.

Sure - calling a kid names because he's black and you already hate him is different to hating all black kids. I've always told my daughter that - if you were not fat, they'd call you something else, your weight is not the issue ( that being what she gets teased about ).

Stan Shannon wrote:

So, I find the entire racism issue to be a boring waste of time.

So long as no-one is burning any crosses, you're probably right.

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Lost User

Great film plus it takes racism and the PC thought police and gives all of them a kick up the arse. :-D

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Mike Gaskey

Christian Graus wrote:

My daughter goes to a Catholic school now, so I'm interested in understanding them a little better.

That is great. I went to a Catholic school for the first 6 years, grades 1 - 6. When I started talking about becoming a priest, my mother decided I best go to a public school. I was at least 2 years ahead of the others in class and coasted for quite awhile. In "my time" they made you want to learn. I would imagine that they're still the same. They also teach a healthy respect for authority. Had a problem with that.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Christian Graus

Mike Gaskey wrote:

In "my time" they made you want to learn. I would imagine that they're still the same. They also teach a healthy respect for authority.

The things I want out of it are: 1 - a good education 2 - a respect for authority 3 - a positive self image I was really impressed by the girls we saw there, obviously the drug addicted sluts get hidden or expelled, but still, it was very different to a public school. I think it's going to be well worth the money. It's also all girls, which is probably a good thing. Of course, on the first day someone said to Hannah 'why would someone be so stupid as to wait to have sex', so I don't think they are all terribly religious. Hannah is, she said 'maybe religion'. The girl said 'what religion is so stupid', and Hannah said 'mine'. They are friends now, and I'm glad she was able to stand up for her values and have a positive outcome.

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You have an 8 year old great-grandson? Sheesh... you must have sat with Moses in the third grade! :laugh:

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Christian Graus wrote:

obviously the drug addicted sluts get hidden or expelled

PMFSL... that's the best one-liner I've seen all morning!

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Mike Gaskey

sounds like you have a great kid, she'll do well.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Mike Gaskey

Stan Shannon wrote:

By any chance do you know a family named Morris

no, not that I can recall. It is a pretty large congregation so it is very possible that we simply haven't met.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Stan Shannon

My son's been dating a girl who's family attends a catholic church in Indy with a largely black congregation. I don't recall the name.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Christian Graus

She is a good girl, but for her to stand up for her views is unusual, which is why I was excited by it. She's usually too worried about being accepted, which I get, but I obviously want to encourage her to move beyond that.

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Lost User

Mike Gaskey wrote:

anywhere I go I see (gasp) mixed race couples

Mixed race but what about mixed culture? I used to have a Sri Lankan girl friend who's family had been in Australia for years and we had very similar values to each other. We never had any problem related to differing skin colour. Had she been from a conservative Muslim family all hell would have broken loose.

Oakman

Josh Gray wrote:

Mixed race but what about mixed culture

The first love of my life was the granddaughter of a Jewish woman who was the only one of the eight members of her family who escaped the holocaust alive. She did not trust, like, or want to have anything to do with goyim like me. Whenever I would visit Marcia in her house, her grandmother would lock herself in her room and pray very loudly (in Yiddish, but Marcia translated) that I (for instance) would become rich, buy a house with a thousand rooms, and die in everyone of them before I defiled their daughter. (Defiled, I believe, meant holding her hand.) Although the parents had lived in the U.S. all of their lives, they were orthodox Jews - kept Kosher, used no electricity on Friday night, etc. Marcia was as all-american as you could get - cheerleader, senior class vice president, yearbook committee, etc. but ultimate the family pressure succeded in tearing this Romeo away from his Juliet. I never saw her after our senior year (the same year America answered the question of whether a Catholic could become President), until we both attended our 25th reunion.

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My wife is Japanese, and my new mother in law is Vietnamese (and slightly older than my wife and I). It's hard to get more cross cultural than that. Great family. Her dad wasn't the least bit happy about the idea at first, I think his reservations were more about culture and distance than anything else. Well actually, I think more than anything else it was about letting go of his baby girl. Can't wait to see them again, we're heading that direction next week. There's a lot of talk in Japan about racism. The Japanese traditionally see two kinds of people in the world, Japanese and everybody else. On some level, we're all still dirty barbarian Gaijin. But the majority of people, especially younger people, are intensly interested in other people and cultures, which may account for some of the racism of the older croud. I never saw much when I lived there, but if you look close enough, it's not too hard to find some old codger inconspicuously glaring at you as if to say "we used to eat people like you in Nanjing."

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