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  • L l a u r e n

    fyireporting.com :cool:

    "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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    Guy Harwood
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    Nice find. I use telerik reporting myself but have been looking for some rtf generation source code to fill the gaps in our own internal RTF library. :cool:

    ---Guy H ;-)---

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      For deploying you will need to install the MS report viewer. Heres a link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/e/d/6eda0f6a-4fb3-4880-bd96-fe71d7c12aa0/ReportViewer.exe[^] I have included a check within my installer to determine if its already installed. If not, it downloads and installs it.

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      Christopher Duncan
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      Hi, Greg. Since this is shared hosting I don't have the option of running install programs on the server. Thanks for the help just the same.

      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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        Nice find. I use telerik reporting myself but have been looking for some rtf generation source code to fill the gaps in our own internal RTF library. :cool:

        ---Guy H ;-)---

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        Christopher Duncan
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        The telerik stuff looks good, it's just a bit pricey for my budget.

        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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        • L Luis Alonso Ramos

          You can either include them as embedded resources or specify an external .rdlc file.

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          Christopher Duncan
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          I'll see if it's available for the web. Thanks, man.

          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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          • O Oleg Shilo

            Also keep in mind that Crystal only appears to be free. If you need non-trivil runtime report modifications you will need to pay royalty (per installation) for using some specific Crystal API. Also if you try to localize your reports you may need to buy Crystal Language Pack (~US$800 a few years ago). And I am not even talking about quality of the product....:mad: I worked with XtraReports, had good impression. It is not perfect but a solid product, which (in contrary to Crystal) is a pure managed product/application. Though some other managed alternatives might be available.

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            Hey, Oleg. If you've used XtraReports, do you know if it can be deployed to a web site via ftp file copy, or does an install app have to be run on the server before they'll work?

            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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              Yes, but there's the rub. Many of its designers etc. require it installed in the GAC, so you need to include the following in your deployment procedure: 1. Change all the strong names in 'Register' page directives. Quite easy. just lop off everything but the assembly name, and search and replace on all aspx pages. 2. Copy the required assemblies from the DevEx installation directory to your bin folder. 3. Remove all 'Compile' entries in web.config for the above assemblies. 4. Deploy. It's really about ten minute's work, regardless of your project size.

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              Thanks, man.

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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              • L l a u r e n

                ummmmm RDL report files have a "query" inside them that can easily exec a stored proc ... what else would you need?

                "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                Christopher Duncan
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                Just being lazy. Crystal shows procs in the pick list along with tables and views. :)

                Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  We are stuck with fyi on our core application, and am sorry we have invested so deeply in it. Its just not on the same level as the other products mentioned in this thread.

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  I took a look at it from Lauren's recommendation. Even though it's free, it's a bit primitive for my taste.

                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                  • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                    I was looking at fyiReporting and it looks promising. One thing I don't like too much about ReportViewer is that for web it requires installing an ActiveX control, and that might be overkill for simple reports. This one can generate HTML output (I saw the demos for simple reports, but I'd need to try it with more complicated ones.)

                    Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico My Blog!

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                    An ActiveX control would be a showstopper for any serious Internet based app. Thanks for the heads up.

                    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                    • J JimmyRopes

                      Have you tried Access, SQL Reporting Services or EXCEL for reporting? Access is pretty much WISIWYG and the reports are pretty standard. I have implemented spreadsheets and charts programmatically with EXCEL. I haven't used SQL Reporting Services yet but I have heard from friends that it is a workable solution.

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                      We're using Sql Server, so the reporting services might be worth investigating. However, from the name it sounds like it just provides data. Does it also have a report designer ala Crystal?

                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        The telerik stuff looks good, it's just a bit pricey for my budget.

                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                        The telerik stuff looks good, it's just a bit pricey for my budget.

                        There are also issues deploying it in non full trust environments (apparently being worked on)

                        ---Guy H ;-)---

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                          Hey, Oleg. If you've used XtraReports, do you know if it can be deployed to a web site via ftp file copy, or does an install app have to be run on the server before they'll work?

                          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                          My first impulse is to answer "YES it is". However you will need to check it with the product specification. What was really good about XtraReports is that it did not have any dependency on anything controversial (e.g. some fancy third-party library or questionable technology). XtraReports is a pure managed library which can be XCopy deployed and report definition files just an XML files. XtraReports report viewer, from another hand, is a WinForm control (though ASP equivalent might be available now). However the report engine can generate report sin form of PDF thus you do not need any special viewer and at the same time reports are WEB friendly. Runtime report designer, though, was a bit limited but because of well designed interface (API) it was possible to have some work around for any lack of particular functionality. ComponentOne had good reporting suit too but we went with XtraRepors because it was cheaper and offered the same level of functionality. Anyway shop around. 5 years ago you were doomed to use CrystalReports. Fortunately now the things are changed... Cheers

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                            We're using Sql Server, so the reporting services might be worth investigating. However, from the name it sounds like it just provides data. Does it also have a report designer ala Crystal?

                            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote:

                            However, from the name it sounds like it just provides data. Does it also have a report designer ala Crystal?

                            Unfortunately, of the 3 I suggested SQL Server Reporting Service is the only one I have never used, but I have heard of it and friends have told me it is a viable solution. I took a look at this article and it looks like it uses Visual Studio report designer. SQL Server Reporting Services - Lessons Learned In Development and Deployment[^] I will probably try it the next time I have to write reports.

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              However, from the name it sounds like it just provides data. Does it also have a report designer ala Crystal?

                              Unfortunately, of the 3 I suggested SQL Server Reporting Service is the only one I have never used, but I have heard of it and friends have told me it is a viable solution. I took a look at this article and it looks like it uses Visual Studio report designer. SQL Server Reporting Services - Lessons Learned In Development and Deployment[^] I will probably try it the next time I have to write reports.

                              Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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                              Excellent, thanks for the link!

                              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                Excellent, thanks for the link!

                                Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                I took a closer look at the article and it looks like it uses Visual Studio report designer. If you have VS it should work.

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                                  Nope. Hence the quest.

                                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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