Vista. Again
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Option 1: Turn off the freakin' UAC ("not recommended," quoth MS) Option 2: Find that trusty XP install disk and settle down for a comfy little install There was actually an option 3 involving Redmond, airfare, and the business end of several blunt objects (and more than a few blunt conversations), but discretion got the better of me.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Option 4: go for Windows 7 ("Vista like it should have been") :)
Best wishes, Hans
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Option 4: go for Windows 7 ("Vista like it should have been") :)
Best wishes, Hans
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"I want to believe! I want to believe!" Just click your heels together three times... :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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"I want to believe! I want to believe!" Just click your heels together three times... :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Just click your heels together three times...
Thanks. I just pictured you in red heels saying "There's no place like home". Excuse me, while I go claw out my eyes. :doh:
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
Just click your heels together three times...
Thanks. I just pictured you in red heels saying "There's no place like home". Excuse me, while I go claw out my eyes. :doh:
;P ;P ;P And your little dog, too! :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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;P ;P ;P And your little dog, too! :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
STOP! The vision. It BURNS! X|
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STOP! The vision. It BURNS! X|
So I'm guessing you don't want to hear about the 4th of July gig I played in Alabama a few years back where the mayor of the town did a skit in a black leather miniskirt and fishnet stockings. These small town folks really have far too much time on their hands. And he thought I was weird because I played Hendrix's version of the Star Spangled Banner before fireworks...
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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So I'm back to Vista after my dev machine chucked a HDD. I have SP1 and was thinking "yes, but Vista is better now. I'll love it. UAC won't be as annoying. The fact that all the settings are now wrapped in an extra layer of obfuscation won't be so bad. Even Aero won't seem as pointless and distracting this time." Wrong. I reckon I've had about 2 dozen UAC prompts today and I keep thinking "yes, but it learns and will stop prompting me". No. It just keeps prompting me for everything. Everything is just that little bit harder that I feel like I'm wading through treacle to get stuff done. Nothing flows. Everything's stop/start. I simply cannot zone out and I find I'm so distracted by what should be an invisible OS that I'm just losing interest in what I'm trying to achieve. Unless Windows 7 is dramatically different I reckon there will be a lot of disappointed punters this time next year.
Chris Maunder wrote:
I reckon I've had about 2 dozen UAC prompts today
What have you been doing, Chris, to warrant 25 UAC prompts? If it's a new box you're setting up with all your regular third party apps, I can understand that, and it's a one-time pain. If it's just another day with that box, I can't imagine why you'd get that many UAC prompts. Still, I would like to beat the idiot who popped up a dialog box saying I have to confirm with UAC and *then* popped up the UAC dialog when I create a folder in C:\Program Files, with his own keyboard to within a centimetre of death. Even SP1 doesn't fix this. :mad: That person must have sawdust for brains.
Cheers, Vıkram.
I've never ever worked anywhere where there has not been someone who given the choice I would not work with again. It's a job, you do your work, put up with the people you don't like, accept there are probably people there that don't like you a lot, and look forward to the weekends. - Josh Gray.
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So I'm guessing you don't want to hear about the 4th of July gig I played in Alabama a few years back where the mayor of the town did a skit in a black leather miniskirt and fishnet stockings. These small town folks really have far too much time on their hands. And he thought I was weird because I played Hendrix's version of the Star Spangled Banner before fireworks...
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
:omg:
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I reckon I've had about 2 dozen UAC prompts today
What have you been doing, Chris, to warrant 25 UAC prompts? If it's a new box you're setting up with all your regular third party apps, I can understand that, and it's a one-time pain. If it's just another day with that box, I can't imagine why you'd get that many UAC prompts. Still, I would like to beat the idiot who popped up a dialog box saying I have to confirm with UAC and *then* popped up the UAC dialog when I create a folder in C:\Program Files, with his own keyboard to within a centimetre of death. Even SP1 doesn't fix this. :mad: That person must have sawdust for brains.
Cheers, Vıkram.
I've never ever worked anywhere where there has not been someone who given the choice I would not work with again. It's a job, you do your work, put up with the people you don't like, accept there are probably people there that don't like you a lot, and look forward to the weekends. - Josh Gray.
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:omg:
It's been an interesting life thus far. :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I reckon I've had about 2 dozen UAC prompts today
What have you been doing, Chris, to warrant 25 UAC prompts? If it's a new box you're setting up with all your regular third party apps, I can understand that, and it's a one-time pain. If it's just another day with that box, I can't imagine why you'd get that many UAC prompts. Still, I would like to beat the idiot who popped up a dialog box saying I have to confirm with UAC and *then* popped up the UAC dialog when I create a folder in C:\Program Files, with his own keyboard to within a centimetre of death. Even SP1 doesn't fix this. :mad: That person must have sawdust for brains.
Cheers, Vıkram.
I've never ever worked anywhere where there has not been someone who given the choice I would not work with again. It's a job, you do your work, put up with the people you don't like, accept there are probably people there that don't like you a lot, and look forward to the weekends. - Josh Gray.
Everytime I fire up IIS manager, everytime I want to debug in Visual Studio (though running under Administrator As Recommended By Those Who Know seems to have kicked this. Running my Remote Desktop Manager (OK - I get that it's unsigned. I've hit OK. Just deal with it, OK?) Just odd stuff. Stuff that doesn't seem to warrant completely dropping out of Fancy Pants Graphics Mode and into Boring Non-Graphics Mode With It's Own Screen Where You Can't Do Anything Else. I get UAC. I understand the purpose. But it really feels like someone forgot to step back and actually run Vista as a normal Mum-and-Dad user before it shipped. 48 Hrs of Vista and I'm ready to go Postal.
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So I'm back to Vista after my dev machine chucked a HDD. I have SP1 and was thinking "yes, but Vista is better now. I'll love it. UAC won't be as annoying. The fact that all the settings are now wrapped in an extra layer of obfuscation won't be so bad. Even Aero won't seem as pointless and distracting this time." Wrong. I reckon I've had about 2 dozen UAC prompts today and I keep thinking "yes, but it learns and will stop prompting me". No. It just keeps prompting me for everything. Everything is just that little bit harder that I feel like I'm wading through treacle to get stuff done. Nothing flows. Everything's stop/start. I simply cannot zone out and I find I'm so distracted by what should be an invisible OS that I'm just losing interest in what I'm trying to achieve. Unless Windows 7 is dramatically different I reckon there will be a lot of disappointed punters this time next year.
I have UAC completely turned off. I don't mind vista so much expect for the way windows renders the GUI which is painfully annoying. I am thinking about buying a XP Laptop too now so I can have both ... or maybe just VM'ing this one so I can have both. But then having Vista render a VM might really suck.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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So I'm guessing you don't want to hear about the 4th of July gig I played in Alabama a few years back where the mayor of the town did a skit in a black leather miniskirt and fishnet stockings. These small town folks really have far too much time on their hands. And he thought I was weird because I played Hendrix's version of the Star Spangled Banner before fireworks...
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Reminds me of a perty I was invited to a few years back (by my project manager), he said it was fancy dress, wear leather or rubber if you want. Twas an interesting night.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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So I'm back to Vista after my dev machine chucked a HDD. I have SP1 and was thinking "yes, but Vista is better now. I'll love it. UAC won't be as annoying. The fact that all the settings are now wrapped in an extra layer of obfuscation won't be so bad. Even Aero won't seem as pointless and distracting this time." Wrong. I reckon I've had about 2 dozen UAC prompts today and I keep thinking "yes, but it learns and will stop prompting me". No. It just keeps prompting me for everything. Everything is just that little bit harder that I feel like I'm wading through treacle to get stuff done. Nothing flows. Everything's stop/start. I simply cannot zone out and I find I'm so distracted by what should be an invisible OS that I'm just losing interest in what I'm trying to achieve. Unless Windows 7 is dramatically different I reckon there will be a lot of disappointed punters this time next year.
Strange. I'm one of those people that tried Vista, hated it, went to linux for a year, came back to windows (for .NET 3.5) and upgraded to Vista to find that I like it. I'll probably get modded as a troll for saying it, but I like the UAC thing. It's a handy backstop to keep me from doing stupid things when I'm in a hurry. But I can see how it would be annoying. It still is far superior to some things I've run into on linux that will just silently fail when they don't have admin access (like some of the crappy scripts I used to write, not actually decent, real applications). Still waiting on Windows 7 though.
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I have UAC completely turned off. I don't mind vista so much expect for the way windows renders the GUI which is painfully annoying. I am thinking about buying a XP Laptop too now so I can have both ... or maybe just VM'ing this one so I can have both. But then having Vista render a VM might really suck.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
windows renders the GUI which is painfully annoying.
What about if you run in Classic mode?
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So I'm back to Vista after my dev machine chucked a HDD. I have SP1 and was thinking "yes, but Vista is better now. I'll love it. UAC won't be as annoying. The fact that all the settings are now wrapped in an extra layer of obfuscation won't be so bad. Even Aero won't seem as pointless and distracting this time." Wrong. I reckon I've had about 2 dozen UAC prompts today and I keep thinking "yes, but it learns and will stop prompting me". No. It just keeps prompting me for everything. Everything is just that little bit harder that I feel like I'm wading through treacle to get stuff done. Nothing flows. Everything's stop/start. I simply cannot zone out and I find I'm so distracted by what should be an invisible OS that I'm just losing interest in what I'm trying to achieve. Unless Windows 7 is dramatically different I reckon there will be a lot of disappointed punters this time next year.
Just installed the Windows 7 beta on my desktop over the weekend. An... interesting experience. At least half of that weekend was spent getting the two laptops to where they could print to the attached HP printer (problem: i did the 64 bit install, while both laptops are running 32bit OSes. Bigger problem: HP doesn't bother to sent out proper inf files for their drivers, making it prohibitively difficult to serve the 32bit drivers from the 64bit OS. Solution: LPR daemon... Un*x FTW!) That said, it's already treating me better than Vista ever has. All my hardware works, settings are reasonably easy to find, nag-boxes are easily disabled, and UAC pops up once per major change to the system. It's not perfect - there are still dark corners of the filesystem that it won't let me view, something that infuriates me every time i encounter it - but compared to the irritations involved in simply installing a printer on the Vista laptop, i've gotta concede - it's gotten better.
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Just installed the Windows 7 beta on my desktop over the weekend. An... interesting experience. At least half of that weekend was spent getting the two laptops to where they could print to the attached HP printer (problem: i did the 64 bit install, while both laptops are running 32bit OSes. Bigger problem: HP doesn't bother to sent out proper inf files for their drivers, making it prohibitively difficult to serve the 32bit drivers from the 64bit OS. Solution: LPR daemon... Un*x FTW!) That said, it's already treating me better than Vista ever has. All my hardware works, settings are reasonably easy to find, nag-boxes are easily disabled, and UAC pops up once per major change to the system. It's not perfect - there are still dark corners of the filesystem that it won't let me view, something that infuriates me every time i encounter it - but compared to the irritations involved in simply installing a printer on the Vista laptop, i've gotta concede - it's gotten better.
I actually find that I like Windows 7 quite a bit. It seems snappier to me on equipment that was previously running Vista. It's still a beta, and I expect there will be some changes, but I'm quite hopeful that this will be a worthy successor to XP. Not that I dislike Vista - I use it on my primary desktop at home, and once I tweaked it into submission, I'm quite comfortable with it. However, it's definitely a pig unless you throw lots of memory, a current generation CPU and fast hard drive at it.
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Everytime I fire up IIS manager, everytime I want to debug in Visual Studio (though running under Administrator As Recommended By Those Who Know seems to have kicked this. Running my Remote Desktop Manager (OK - I get that it's unsigned. I've hit OK. Just deal with it, OK?) Just odd stuff. Stuff that doesn't seem to warrant completely dropping out of Fancy Pants Graphics Mode and into Boring Non-Graphics Mode With It's Own Screen Where You Can't Do Anything Else. I get UAC. I understand the purpose. But it really feels like someone forgot to step back and actually run Vista as a normal Mum-and-Dad user before it shipped. 48 Hrs of Vista and I'm ready to go Postal.
Chris Maunder wrote:
I'm ready to go Postal.
After that you might want to try Making Money...
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STOP! The vision. It BURNS! X|
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Just installed the Windows 7 beta on my desktop over the weekend. An... interesting experience. At least half of that weekend was spent getting the two laptops to where they could print to the attached HP printer (problem: i did the 64 bit install, while both laptops are running 32bit OSes. Bigger problem: HP doesn't bother to sent out proper inf files for their drivers, making it prohibitively difficult to serve the 32bit drivers from the 64bit OS. Solution: LPR daemon... Un*x FTW!) That said, it's already treating me better than Vista ever has. All my hardware works, settings are reasonably easy to find, nag-boxes are easily disabled, and UAC pops up once per major change to the system. It's not perfect - there are still dark corners of the filesystem that it won't let me view, something that infuriates me every time i encounter it - but compared to the irritations involved in simply installing a printer on the Vista laptop, i've gotta concede - it's gotten better.
I installed it under VMWare Fusion on my MacBook Pro, mainly as a host for Visual Studio and MSDN. Aside from not getting Aero graphics, I have to say I'm liking it, much more than Vista, almost to (and possibly beyond) XP levels of satisfaction. But running it in 'Unity mode' (there's no Windows shell, Windows apps appear as Windows windows in the OS X shell) is just weird. Cool - but very definitely weird.
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