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  • L Lost User

    Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

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    I see lots of speckles too, I imagine is the cones firing randomly in the absence of any stimuli and the visual cortex trying to make sense of nonsensical input.

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      • L Lost User

        Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

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        Lost User
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        I wish I'd see blue.. but my "darkness artifacts" are red and green - about 60/40. For more fun, poke your eyes (gently!) But then what about "light artifacts"? I usually see some light gray spheres swimming around when I look at "quite light but not blinding" things (such as white clouds on a sunny day). They're pretty small and they don't move much relative to my eyes (they move when I move my eyes, they swim around a little when I fix them)

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        • L Lost User

          Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

          ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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          Sounds like your CCD sensor is on a high ISO setting. Set your brain to "P" (programmed auto) mode instead of auto mode, and then reduce the ISO setting, preferably to 100. You'll have to keep your eyes open longer between blinks and hold your head steadier to get a good view, though.

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          • L Lost User

            Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

            ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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            There is noise in every system, quite normal.

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            • L Lost User

              Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

              ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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              martin_hughes
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              What do you see when you turn out the light? I see things you wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. That, or more usually a giant pink elephant appears reminding me that I've drunk too much. Again.

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                I wish I'd see blue.. but my "darkness artifacts" are red and green - about 60/40. For more fun, poke your eyes (gently!) But then what about "light artifacts"? I usually see some light gray spheres swimming around when I look at "quite light but not blinding" things (such as white clouds on a sunny day). They're pretty small and they don't move much relative to my eyes (they move when I move my eyes, they swim around a little when I fix them)

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                Your light artifacts are either dust particles on the eye surface or 'floaters' bits of eye material floating around inside your eye *yuk!)

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                • M Mike_V

                  Sounds like your CCD sensor is on a high ISO setting. Set your brain to "P" (programmed auto) mode instead of auto mode, and then reduce the ISO setting, preferably to 100. You'll have to keep your eyes open longer between blinks and hold your head steadier to get a good view, though.

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                  Oh- I WAY precede digital technology - I'm still running on good old film - and I mean OLD!

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                  • L Lost User

                    Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

                    ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                    Mladen Jankovic
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                    No worries. It's just dark energy[^] and it is going to destroy our universe. But before that happens you have plenty of time to entertain yourself with ping-pong balls and a radio[^]

                    [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      I would have guessed that you see recruiters. Oh Wait! It might be one and the same thing for you.

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                        No worries. It's just dark energy[^] and it is going to destroy our universe. But before that happens you have plenty of time to entertain yourself with ping-pong balls and a radio[^]

                        [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                        Lost User
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                        Thanks for the link - but I prefer drugs :) On the Dark Matter front, that's something I really don't understand. Surely any matter not in a star is, effectively, dark matter - so it's not missing, we just can't see it!

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                        • M martin_hughes

                          What do you see when you turn out the light? I see things you wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. That, or more usually a giant pink elephant appears reminding me that I've drunk too much. Again.

                          print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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                          I've always wwondered what a c-beam was...

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                            I've always wwondered what a c-beam was...

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                            Lost User
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                            I'm not sure of the technology, but the fact that they glitter in a vacuum makes for an interesting concept - perhaps they're scattering of dark matter?

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                              Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

                              ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              On digital (or even tube) cameras, there is something called dark current.[^] Not quite the same thing, but yes, I've experienced the same affect. What surprises me is that, when I move my eyes, the pattern moves as well. So there's some really fancy stuff going on in the brain, because if what I'm "seeing" is random firings of the cones and rods, I would expect the pattern to stay spatially in the same place no matter how I moved my eyes. But instead, the patterns track as I my eyeballs move. So what that tells me is that the brain correlates the position of ones eyes with the image, it's not just where the light is striking your cones and rods, but where you are looking as well. Which, in the long run, makes sense, but it's weird. On the other hand, maybe it's really late and I'm just being silly. Marc

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                                Thanks for the link - but I prefer drugs :) On the Dark Matter front, that's something I really don't understand. Surely any matter not in a star is, effectively, dark matter - so it's not missing, we just can't see it!

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                                Mladen Jankovic
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                                Problem (as far as I know) with dark matter is that there is A LOT more of it then visible matter, on the other hand dark energy is even more mysterious force that accelerates expansion of universe until it rips off everything.

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                                  Problem (as far as I know) with dark matter is that there is A LOT more of it then visible matter, on the other hand dark energy is even more mysterious force that accelerates expansion of universe until it rips off everything.

                                  [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                                  Mladen Jankovic wrote:

                                  LOT more of it then visible matter

                                  that's what I don't understand. A planet the size of jupiter could be sitting outside our solar system and if it's not orbiting a star, then we would have no way of knowing it was there - so wouldn't it explain this dark matter if there were just a bunch of planets lying about out there?

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                                    On digital (or even tube) cameras, there is something called dark current.[^] Not quite the same thing, but yes, I've experienced the same affect. What surprises me is that, when I move my eyes, the pattern moves as well. So there's some really fancy stuff going on in the brain, because if what I'm "seeing" is random firings of the cones and rods, I would expect the pattern to stay spatially in the same place no matter how I moved my eyes. But instead, the patterns track as I my eyeballs move. So what that tells me is that the brain correlates the position of ones eyes with the image, it's not just where the light is striking your cones and rods, but where you are looking as well. Which, in the long run, makes sense, but it's weird. On the other hand, maybe it's really late and I'm just being silly. Marc

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                                    For sure the brain is mighty clever. I remember in my youth seeing a guy who wore prism glasses for a while (like, days) which turned his view upside down. Initially everything was a problem - he'd turn the cup upside down when someone poured tea - and I remember he felt a little nauseous. A few days later - he was fine - riding a bike and doing everything normally - because the world looked the right way up He suffered again when he stopped wearing the glasses. Although a more recent experiment here[^] suggests upright vision may not be achieved...

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                                      Mladen Jankovic wrote:

                                      LOT more of it then visible matter

                                      that's what I don't understand. A planet the size of jupiter could be sitting outside our solar system and if it's not orbiting a star, then we would have no way of knowing it was there - so wouldn't it explain this dark matter if there were just a bunch of planets lying about out there?

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                                      Mladen Jankovic
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                                      Jupiter has only 1/1000 mass of the Sun, so if your theory works we should have at least 5000 jupiters orbiting around our star which is negligible compared to giant stars with 2000 solar radii.

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                                        Serious question. When I close my eyes in a dark room, I don't see just black. I see millions of tiny multicoloured speckles on a background of black and nearly-black-with-a-hint-of-blue, which is not static, but rather moves slowly (reminds me of a rather gothic lava lamp) I'm not talking after-images here. (it is difficult to describe) When speaking to other people, and asking what they see, most say "Black", "Nothing", or "I can't tell you, but I know it's mine." I asked my 5-year-old what he sees, and from what he describes, it's similar to what I see. So - are we a family of freaks? (relevant comments please!!!) or is this a glimpse of some mystical gateway? or is this what everyone sees?

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                                        leckey 0
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                                        You are probably lucid dreaming. I actually manipulate my images to go to sleep faster when I am trying to take my narco nap during my lunch hour. Take a look at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-eye_hallucination[^]

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                                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                          dead people

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                                          And I stop seeing stupid people :)

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