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  • O Oakman

    73Zeppelin wrote:

    What the hell?

    I never saw Rob's post, but I'm betting he's right. Ilion (maybe CSS?) has set up a bunch of dummy accounts and is voting all messages off the board.

    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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    73Zeppelin
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    I'd believe that if some of the messages weren't still in blue - and some of them only have 2 votes.... An explanation would be nice. Apparently, while I was away, I missed loads...

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    • I Ilion

      Rob Graham wrote:

      Ilion has his sock puppets out, as he obliquely threatened some time ago.

      You poor fool, Ilíon has no sock-puppets at all and Ilíon made no such threat, neither obliquely nor directly.

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      Rob Graham
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      Ilíon wrote:

      Ilíon made no such threat, either obliquely or directly.

      Indeed you have, on a number of occasions warned that "the community" would come to enjoy the same treatment you were receiving. Given the timing and choice of targets today, as well as you gleefully calling attention to one of the first to disappear suddenly a short while ago, all point to you as the agent. This time it is you who are the *liar*, and fool.

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        Rob Graham wrote:

        Ilion has his sock puppets out, as he obliquely threatened some time ago.

        You poor fool, Ilíon has no sock-puppets at all and Ilíon made no such threat, neither obliquely nor directly.

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        Ilion
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        Dryrot's post (demonstrating, once again, his hypocrisy) vanished, so I can respond to it only in this manner.

        Ilíon wrote:

        Ilíon: You poor fool, Ilíon has no sock-puppets at all and Ilíon made no such threat, neither obliquely nor directly. Dryrot: (I paraphrase) Well, I've asked Chris to look into it, anyway.

        You pathetic hypocrite.

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          Dryrot's post (demonstrating, once again, his hypocrisy) vanished, so I can respond to it only in this manner.

          Ilíon wrote:

          Ilíon: You poor fool, Ilíon has no sock-puppets at all and Ilíon made no such threat, neither obliquely nor directly. Dryrot: (I paraphrase) Well, I've asked Chris to look into it, anyway.

          You pathetic hypocrite.

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          Oakman
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          Ilíon wrote:

          You pathetic hypocrite

          Everyone's a "hypocrite" this week - I confess, I do like to see folks expand their vocabulary.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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            Ilíon wrote:

            Ilíon made no such threat, either obliquely or directly.

            Indeed you have, on a number of occasions warned that "the community" would come to enjoy the same treatment you were receiving. Given the timing and choice of targets today, as well as you gleefully calling attention to one of the first to disappear suddenly a short while ago, all point to you as the agent. This time it is you who are the *liar*, and fool.

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            Ilion
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            Rob Graham wrote:

            Indeed you have, on a number of occasions warned that "the community" would come to enjoy the same treatment you were receiving.

            You pathetic ... or dishonest ... fool. I was pointing out to you children that others were getting disgusted at your behavior (as witness by the posts of various members calling for an end to "the community's" censorship of what is ostensibly a Soapbox) and that eventually they'd serve you with your own medicine. Whether that's what's happening here I cannot say. But I have no sockpuppets.

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            • 7 73Zeppelin

              I'd believe that if some of the messages weren't still in blue - and some of them only have 2 votes.... An explanation would be nice. Apparently, while I was away, I missed loads...

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              Rob Graham
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              I suspect that if the messages are down voted very rapidly, perhaps across multiple servers, the post status could get out of sync, with the post being removed before its vote count or score was correct. This actually suggests an automated attack across multiple logins, to me.

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              • R Rob Graham

                I suspect that if the messages are down voted very rapidly, perhaps across multiple servers, the post status could get out of sync, with the post being removed before its vote count or score was correct. This actually suggests an automated attack across multiple logins, to me.

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                Oakman
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                Rob Graham wrote:

                This actually suggests an automated attack across multiple logins, to me.

                Exactly what I was thinking. Right now, I'm trying to balance, by voting anyone who isn't offensive up to a 5.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                  I suspect that if the messages are down voted very rapidly, perhaps across multiple servers, the post status could get out of sync, with the post being removed before its vote count or score was correct. This actually suggests an automated attack across multiple logins, to me.

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                  73Zeppelin
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                  I'm not sure about that. Looking at Messages Posted under a user's profile shows that they are being removed at only 2 votes....

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                  • 7 73Zeppelin

                    Ilíon wrote:

                    It is all rather mysterious, isn't it? And, frankly, humorous.

                    Mysterious, maybe. Silly, definitely. As I mentioned, it's not even consistent.

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                    Ilion
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                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    Mysterious, maybe.

                    How can it not be mysterious? At least until it's understood, what else can it be called but mysterious?

                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    Silly, definitely.

                    It's behond silly, it's hillarious ... especialy the reaction.

                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    As I mentioned, it's not even consistent.

                    More mystery, I suppose.

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                    • I Ilion

                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      Mysterious, maybe.

                      How can it not be mysterious? At least until it's understood, what else can it be called but mysterious?

                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      Silly, definitely.

                      It's behond silly, it's hillarious ... especialy the reaction.

                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      As I mentioned, it's not even consistent.

                      More mystery, I suppose.

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                      73Zeppelin
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                      With no pre-defined rules for message deletion it's rather stupid. Some offensive messages have been deleted, some inoffensive messages have been deleted. Doesn't make sense. Some have been removed after 2 votes...I thought it took multiple (i.e. more than two) to remove a message?

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                        With no pre-defined rules for message deletion it's rather stupid. Some offensive messages have been deleted, some inoffensive messages have been deleted. Doesn't make sense. Some have been removed after 2 votes...I thought it took multiple (i.e. more than two) to remove a message?

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                        Ilion
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                        73Zeppelin wrote:

                        With no pre-defined rules for message deletion it's rather stupid. Some offensive messages have been deleted, some inoffensive messages have been deleted. Doesn't make sense. Some have been removed after 2 votes...I thought it took multiple (i.e. more than two) to remove a message?

                        And some of my posts vanish within minutes, sometimes even as I'm correcting a spelling error or missing word I didn't notice before I'd initially posted it.

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                        • I Ilion

                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          With no pre-defined rules for message deletion it's rather stupid. Some offensive messages have been deleted, some inoffensive messages have been deleted. Doesn't make sense. Some have been removed after 2 votes...I thought it took multiple (i.e. more than two) to remove a message?

                          And some of my posts vanish within minutes, sometimes even as I'm correcting a spelling error or missing word I didn't notice before I'd initially posted it.

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                          73Zeppelin
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                          I know - sometimes they've been deleted before I can post a response. I think this "Message Deleted" feature is rather ridiculous - at least when it's being abused like this.

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                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            Mysterious, maybe.

                            How can it not be mysterious? At least until it's understood, what else can it be called but mysterious?

                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            Silly, definitely.

                            It's behond silly, it's hillarious ... especialy the reaction.

                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            As I mentioned, it's not even consistent.

                            More mystery, I suppose.

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                            This week on 24: BOOP! BEEP! BOOP! BEEPYBOOPYBEEPY! THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 12:00PM AND 1:00PM JACK BAUER: oh no the internet is breaking ILION: hahaha you guys suck, epic lol, who's deleted now assholes JACK BAUER & CTU: ilion is an internet terrorist! get him! *chase scene* CHLOE: my internets are showing the porns plz help me CSS: lol food stamps *fade to balck*

                            - F

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                              This week on 24: BOOP! BEEP! BOOP! BEEPYBOOPYBEEPY! THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 12:00PM AND 1:00PM JACK BAUER: oh no the internet is breaking ILION: hahaha you guys suck, epic lol, who's deleted now assholes JACK BAUER & CTU: ilion is an internet terrorist! get him! *chase scene* CHLOE: my internets are showing the porns plz help me CSS: lol food stamps *fade to balck*

                              - F

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                              Oakman
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                              Fisticuffs wrote:

                              *fade to balck*

                              Afraid to use the word, "black," after yesterday's conversation? ;)

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                I know - sometimes they've been deleted before I can post a response. I think this "Message Deleted" feature is rather ridiculous - at least when it's being abused like this.

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                                Ilion
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                                73Zeppelin wrote:

                                I know - sometimes they've been deleted before I can post a response.

                                A high proportion of your responses translate into "Yer stoopid!" So, I suppose I didn't miss all that much.

                                73Zeppelin wrote:

                                I think this "Message Deleted" feature is rather ridiculous - at least when it's being abused like this.

                                At least (unless I'm misremembering) you've expressed this opinion previously, which puts you light-years ahead of Dryrot, who enjoys the abusive nature of it and boasts of his ability to help censor me.

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                                  Fisticuffs wrote:

                                  *fade to balck*

                                  Afraid to use the word, "black," after yesterday's conversation? ;)

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Afraid to use the word, "black," after yesterday's conversation?

                                  One can't be too careful in these times of crisis! :-D

                                  - F

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                                  • I Ilion

                                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                                    With no pre-defined rules for message deletion it's rather stupid. Some offensive messages have been deleted, some inoffensive messages have been deleted. Doesn't make sense. Some have been removed after 2 votes...I thought it took multiple (i.e. more than two) to remove a message?

                                    And some of my posts vanish within minutes, sometimes even as I'm correcting a spelling error or missing word I didn't notice before I'd initially posted it.

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                                    Oakman
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                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    And some of my posts vanish within minutes, sometimes even as I'm correcting a spelling error or missing word I didn't notice before I'd initially posted it.

                                    How long did it take you to come up with this attack? The effect of the programming is quite impressive.

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                    • O Oakman

                                      Ilíon wrote:

                                      And some of my posts vanish within minutes, sometimes even as I'm correcting a spelling error or missing word I didn't notice before I'd initially posted it.

                                      How long did it take you to come up with this attack? The effect of the programming is quite impressive.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                      Ilion
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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      How long did it take you to come up with this attack? The effect of the programming is quite impressive.

                                      I haven't done a thing.

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                                      • 7 73Zeppelin

                                        I'd believe that if some of the messages weren't still in blue - and some of them only have 2 votes.... An explanation would be nice. Apparently, while I was away, I missed loads...

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                                        Oakman
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                                        You're right - some of mine were removed after one vote. However, the fact the Ilion is not subjected to this attack makes me still believe it is instigated by him.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                        • I Ilion

                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          How long did it take you to come up with this attack? The effect of the programming is quite impressive.

                                          I haven't done a thing.

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                                          73Zeppelin
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                                          I suspect you are correct. I would appear this is an administrative decision. It would be nice to have an explanation...

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