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  • S Stan Shannon

    I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether. They became incorporated into it as part of the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes. Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    Christian Graus
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    But, do you think those organisations would suddenly reappear, or do you think kids would just play more Nintendo ?

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      I don't see why a sports program can't exist for the cost of a football and a lawn mower.

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      lawn mower

      A robot mentor I know at another HS approached the administration about supporting his robotics club. When they were told it would cost at least $8000 a year, they said that's less than we spend on the grass on the football field and gave it to him. But that was a private school and presumably more focused on academics.

      "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        a lawn mower

        You should see the lawnmower my guy uses when he comes to cut my grass. List price is a little over $14,000. But they threw in a free John Deere hat.

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        Does he put a nice grid pattern[^] into it? I've always wanted a lawn big enough to do that

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        • S Stan Shannon

          I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether. They became incorporated into it as part of the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes. Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether.

          And replaced with your own politics curriculum?

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            Does he put a nice grid pattern[^] into it? I've always wanted a lawn big enough to do that

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            Josh Gray wrote:

            I've always wanted a lawn big enough to do that

            I've got one - and I wish I had teh TIME to do that! (I'm hoping to train the Alpacas to eat to a patten, but no luck so far :)

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              But, do you think those organisations would suddenly reappear, or do you think kids would just play more Nintendo ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              play more Nintendo

              Is that physically possible? Saw a kid at the sk8 park the other day, probably 12 or thirteen, skating while playing on his DS. Showed remarkable coordination I must say!

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                Josh Gray wrote:

                I've always wanted a lawn big enough to do that

                I've got one - and I wish I had teh TIME to do that! (I'm hoping to train the Alpacas to eat to a patten, but no luck so far :)

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                Maxxx_ wrote:

                I've got one - and I wish I had teh TIME to do that!

                Any idea how its done? Is it just a matter of cutting at different heights? Can it be done with a 2 stroke victa?

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether. They became incorporated into it as part of the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes. Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether.

                  Why?

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                  as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes.

                  You think? So the US Government wanted to control student's art & sport? For what possible reason?

                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

                  You're not seriously suggesting that the decline in families sitting around the piano of an evening singing is due to the governments desire to control individual's musical development? I would also doubt (but don't have figures to prove it) that there were more sports clubs prior to compulsory education than after it. Even today the majority of sports are played in private clubs outside of school.

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    lawn mower

                    A robot mentor I know at another HS approached the administration about supporting his robotics club. When they were told it would cost at least $8000 a year, they said that's less than we spend on the grass on the football field and gave it to him. But that was a private school and presumably more focused on academics.

                    "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                    Tim Craig wrote:

                    A robot mentor I know at another HS approached the administration about supporting his robotics club. When they were told it would cost at least $8000 a year, they said that's less than we spend on the grass on the football field and gave it to him. But that was a private school and presumably more focused on academics.

                    Something like this[^] might get you two birds with one stone

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                      Maxxx_ wrote:

                      I've got one - and I wish I had teh TIME to do that!

                      Any idea how its done? Is it just a matter of cutting at different heights? Can it be done with a 2 stroke victa?

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                      There's nothing clever about it at all- it's just a case of the mower having rollers which bend the grass as they roll it - so they mow back and forth 'horizontally' then again 'vertically'. the 'light' coloured grass is that bending away from your viewpoint, as it forms a more continuous surface (relatively speaking) than that bending toward you, which is a mass of gaps and shaded hollows. Thats why, in the pic, the 'horizontal' stripes are less obvious - the grass is bending parallell with our viewpoint, and hence the difference between left and right bent blades is less than those bent toward or away from us. You can do it with a 2 stroke victa if it has a roller (in fact it sort of works without one, only with horizontally-rotating blades the effect is much less pronounced, as the blades do tend to swirl rather than lie flat. You can do it with just a roller - no mower required - or even by dragging a board behind your mower (I recommend you have a ride on-for this!) With a bit of practice... You can do this[^] or even this![^]

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                        There's nothing clever about it at all- it's just a case of the mower having rollers which bend the grass as they roll it - so they mow back and forth 'horizontally' then again 'vertically'. the 'light' coloured grass is that bending away from your viewpoint, as it forms a more continuous surface (relatively speaking) than that bending toward you, which is a mass of gaps and shaded hollows. Thats why, in the pic, the 'horizontal' stripes are less obvious - the grass is bending parallell with our viewpoint, and hence the difference between left and right bent blades is less than those bent toward or away from us. You can do it with a 2 stroke victa if it has a roller (in fact it sort of works without one, only with horizontally-rotating blades the effect is much less pronounced, as the blades do tend to swirl rather than lie flat. You can do it with just a roller - no mower required - or even by dragging a board behind your mower (I recommend you have a ride on-for this!) With a bit of practice... You can do this[^] or even this![^]

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                        Ahh so that's how its done. Thanks Maxxx

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether.

                          And replaced with your own politics curriculum?

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                          Josh Gray wrote:

                          And replaced with your own politics curriculum?

                          Stan thinks public education should be done away with. Obviously, capitalism will provide whatever education is necessary and make a hell of a profit while they're at it. :laugh:

                          "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                          • S Stan Shannon

                            I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether. They became incorporated into it as part of the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes. Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                            Stan Shannon wrote:

                            I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether. They became incorporated into it as part of the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes. Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

                            Uhhh...what? You think that there are no sports, music and arts groups/clubs/organisations that aren't controlled by the government? Seriously? Believe it or not, when I did music the teacher taught us music (tried to at least) rather than politics. You think that the Left is trying to suppress independent thought by making kids exercise? Are fat people more Conservative?

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether. They became incorporated into it as part of the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes. Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

                              Uhhh...what? You think that there are no sports, music and arts groups/clubs/organisations that aren't controlled by the government? Seriously? Believe it or not, when I did music the teacher taught us music (tried to at least) rather than politics. You think that the Left is trying to suppress independent thought by making kids exercise? Are fat people more Conservative?

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                              Are fat people more Conservative?

                              Or, are Conservatives fat ?

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                                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                Are fat people more Conservative?

                                Or, are Conservatives fat ?

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                                Nah, they're all into their suits and healthy bodies and minds and traditional values.

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether. They became incorporated into it as part of the progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes. Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

                                  Uhhh...what? You think that there are no sports, music and arts groups/clubs/organisations that aren't controlled by the government? Seriously? Believe it or not, when I did music the teacher taught us music (tried to at least) rather than politics. You think that the Left is trying to suppress independent thought by making kids exercise? Are fat people more Conservative?

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                                  Hard economic times mean that Stan can't afford his aluminum foil.

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                                    Hard economic times mean that Stan can't afford his aluminum foil.

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                                    He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me... :wtf:

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                                      He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me... :wtf:

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                                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                      He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me...

                                      This could be true. Leftists are everywhere. :suss:

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                                        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                        He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me...

                                        This could be true. Leftists are everywhere. :suss:

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                                        Oh, especially in schools. In fact, it'd probably be better to do away with every school that isn't explicitly religious conservative - we wouldn't want kids being unfairly influenced, after all! 'The People' don't want evolution being taught? Well, 'The People' know best! Flood geology may be an entirely retarded field, but the small self-governed communities of illiterate rednecks know best!

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                                          Oh, especially in schools. In fact, it'd probably be better to do away with every school that isn't explicitly religious conservative - we wouldn't want kids being unfairly influenced, after all! 'The People' don't want evolution being taught? Well, 'The People' know best! Flood geology may be an entirely retarded field, but the small self-governed communities of illiterate rednecks know best!

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                                          Now you're beginning to understand! Doesn't it feel good to be free of the Stifling Iron Chains of the Leftists?

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