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  • S soap brain

    Did you know that they don't even have a reason to act morally?

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    73Zeppelin
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    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

    Did you know that they don't even have a reason to act morally?

    The Leftists? I know - but I think that's part of their plot too!

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      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      Did you know that they don't even have a reason to act morally?

      The Leftists? I know - but I think that's part of their plot too!

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      Their plot to weaken the US with homosexuality, feminism, social Darwinism, convincing people that shockingly immoral acts are perfectly acceptable because "we're all just monkeys anyway"!? Phhh. I ain't no stinkin' monkey. Did you know that the only reason Obama got elected was because of the twisted Leftist media? Also, he used brainwashing techniques during his speeches, like how he uses a round emblem, repeats words, and moves his hands when he talks. It's all very scientific, and not the dumb Secular science either.

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        Their plot to weaken the US with homosexuality, feminism, social Darwinism, convincing people that shockingly immoral acts are perfectly acceptable because "we're all just monkeys anyway"!? Phhh. I ain't no stinkin' monkey. Did you know that the only reason Obama got elected was because of the twisted Leftist media? Also, he used brainwashing techniques during his speeches, like how he uses a round emblem, repeats words, and moves his hands when he talks. It's all very scientific, and not the dumb Secular science either.

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        All insidious Leftist plots... The End of the World is near.

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          All insidious Leftist plots... The End of the World is near.

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          soap brain
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          And Obama is the illegitimate homosexual Muslim terrorist Antichrist who's signing the death warrant as we speak.

          modified on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:00 AM

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          • T Tim Craig

            Gary Kirkham wrote:

            I would like to see the jocks out there washing cars or something to raise money just like all the other school organizations.

            The school where I mentor the robotics club theoretically has a boosters' club to fund the football program. Although when I was trying to get the superintendent to cough up some money for the club, he did manage to let it slip they always run over and the school picks up the difference out of the general fund. He also didn't say whether the school paid the coach or he was an employee of the boosters' club. I'll bet the school covers the coach and whatever assistants he has as well as all the maintenance on whatever facilities they use.

            "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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            Gary Kirkham
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            I think the school pays the coach, but they give him other stuff to do so they can call him a "teacher." Our coach taught Drivers Ed. But going back to your OP, there must be some part of it funded by the school system or they wouldn't be talking about eliminating sports to save money.

            Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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              Gary Kirkham wrote:

              I would like to see the jocks out there washing cars or something to raise money just like all the other school organizations.

              The school where I mentor the robotics club theoretically has a boosters' club to fund the football program. Although when I was trying to get the superintendent to cough up some money for the club, he did manage to let it slip they always run over and the school picks up the difference out of the general fund. He also didn't say whether the school paid the coach or he was an employee of the boosters' club. I'll bet the school covers the coach and whatever assistants he has as well as all the maintenance on whatever facilities they use.

              "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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              Tim Craig wrote:

              I'll bet the school covers the coach and whatever assistants he has as well as all the maintenance on whatever facilities they use.

              Don't forget the cheerleading coach, too. My sister had that neat little bonus rilling in to her when sshe was teaching.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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              • T Tim Craig

                Josh Gray wrote:

                And replaced with your own politics curriculum?

                Stan thinks public education should be done away with. Obviously, capitalism will provide whatever education is necessary and make a hell of a profit while they're at it. :laugh:

                "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                Tim Craig wrote:

                Stan thinks public education should be done away with

                Stan's grandfather thought covered wagons should be done away with. "If God wants covers on our wagons, he'll put 'em there!"

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                • S soap brain

                  Nah, they're all into their suits and healthy bodies and minds and traditional values.

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                  Oakman
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                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  Nah, they're all into their suits and healthy bodies and minds and traditional values.

                  Have you seen a picture of Rush Limbaugh recently?

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                  • S soap brain

                    He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me... :wtf:

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                    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                    He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me

                    If it was a Catholic school, indoctrination might have been the least of your worries.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                    • O Oakman

                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me

                      If it was a Catholic school, indoctrination might have been the least of your worries.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                      soap brain
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                      No way. I'm not nearly attractive enough, not even to a Catholic.

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                        One of the school districts here is toying with the idea of eliminating sports as a way of getting through the budget crunch. The way people are whining about it, you'd think someone poisoned their puppy. I suppose we could save the jocks by eliminating a few math and science classes. I'll bet they'd favor that approach.

                        "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                        Chris Austin
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                        It's too bad. I am a neither a jock or a nerd but somewhere in the middle. To this day I still participate in competive sports and I am a firm believer that a strong body is key to a fit and organized mind. Why not just have them raise funds like we did when we were kids?

                        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                          There's nothing clever about it at all- it's just a case of the mower having rollers which bend the grass as they roll it - so they mow back and forth 'horizontally' then again 'vertically'. the 'light' coloured grass is that bending away from your viewpoint, as it forms a more continuous surface (relatively speaking) than that bending toward you, which is a mass of gaps and shaded hollows. Thats why, in the pic, the 'horizontal' stripes are less obvious - the grass is bending parallell with our viewpoint, and hence the difference between left and right bent blades is less than those bent toward or away from us. You can do it with a 2 stroke victa if it has a roller (in fact it sort of works without one, only with horizontally-rotating blades the effect is much less pronounced, as the blades do tend to swirl rather than lie flat. You can do it with just a roller - no mower required - or even by dragging a board behind your mower (I recommend you have a ride on-for this!) With a bit of practice... You can do this[^] or even this![^]

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                          I had a push mower that used to leave that pattern on the grass.

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                          • S soap brain

                            He said that the school counselor was trying to indoctrinate me... :wtf:

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                            Not exactly. He actually tried to convince you that the government is diluting Arts, Sports, etc, by getting involved and that left alone it would flourish more.

                            This statement is false

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                              One of the school districts here is toying with the idea of eliminating sports as a way of getting through the budget crunch. The way people are whining about it, you'd think someone poisoned their puppy. I suppose we could save the jocks by eliminating a few math and science classes. I'll bet they'd favor that approach.

                              "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                              Last week, I heard on the radio a program about few colleges who are eliminating some sport programs. The tone of the program was as if, it is, end of school programs. The colleges won't be able to attract good player, yada...yada...yada... Yes, it is sad to see this happening, but isn't the primary objective of the school/college is to educate the students? Yes, sport is an integral part of the learning process, but not the focal point. Gimmi a break :mad:

                              Yusuf

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                              • T Tim Craig

                                One of the school districts here is toying with the idea of eliminating sports as a way of getting through the budget crunch. The way people are whining about it, you'd think someone poisoned their puppy. I suppose we could save the jocks by eliminating a few math and science classes. I'll bet they'd favor that approach.

                                "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                                Yeah, and we can take even more of that money and spend it on fast food and soda for all students. Are you kidding me? I know this is a board for programmers, but are you seriously suggesting that taking sports out of schools is for the better? As if the nation wasn't obese enough, you want to cut off programs that force physical fitness. Sports aren't all about jocks. They're about building self confidence through competition. I guess being fat with poor self esteem is you're idea to get through tough times. I'm glad you're not an elected official where I am...

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                                  Tim Craig wrote:

                                  Stan thinks public education should be done away with

                                  Stan's grandfather thought covered wagons should be done away with. "If God wants covers on our wagons, he'll put 'em there!"

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Stan's grandfather thought covered wagons should be done away with. "If God wants covers on our wagons, he'll put 'em there!"

                                  Actually, my grandad moved his family from Texas to Oklahoma in a covered wagon in 1917. So, you're wrong again, Jon.

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    I think all sports, music and art programs should be removed from public education altogether.

                                    Why?

                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    as a way for government to control athletic and artistic processes.

                                    You think? So the US Government wanted to control student's art & sport? For what possible reason?

                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Before that, there was far more sports, music and art in our society than there is now - it just wasn't controlled by the government, but by individuals and private clubs and organizations.

                                    You're not seriously suggesting that the decline in families sitting around the piano of an evening singing is due to the governments desire to control individual's musical development? I would also doubt (but don't have figures to prove it) that there were more sports clubs prior to compulsory education than after it. Even today the majority of sports are played in private clubs outside of school.

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                                    Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    Why?

                                    Becuse there is no point in it. I should not be required to pay so that some other family's child can be a jock or get an easy 'A' in band. If they want that, let them join a club and pay for it themselves. I agree that the general education of children is important in a democracy. But getting to be the studly star guarterback who gets to fuck all the cheerleaders on my nickle isn't important to democracy at all.

                                    Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    So the US Government wanted to control student's art & sport? For what possible reason?

                                    Read the history of the progressive movement. The state takes over all personal training in education, sports, art, etc. It controls everything from the center.

                                    Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    You're not seriously suggesting that the decline in families sitting around the piano of an evening singing is due to the governments desire to control individual's musical development?

                                    That is precisely what happened.

                                    Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    I would also doubt (but don't have figures to prove it) that there were more sports clubs prior to compulsory education than after it. Even today the majority of sports are played in private clubs outside of school.

                                    A century or so ago, every town had its own sports teams, its own bands, private musci teachers, private art teachres, all of whom stayed gainfully employed.

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      Stan's grandfather thought covered wagons should be done away with. "If God wants covers on our wagons, he'll put 'em there!"

                                      Actually, my grandad moved his family from Texas to Oklahoma in a covered wagon in 1917. So, you're wrong again, Jon.

                                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                      Oakman
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                                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                                      Actually, my grandad moved his family from Texas to Oklahoma in a covered wagon in 1917. So, you're wrong again, Jon.

                                      Damn. :-O Well, when I'm wrong, there's nothing to do but admit it. :)

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                        Maxxx_ wrote:

                                        Why?

                                        Becuse there is no point in it. I should not be required to pay so that some other family's child can be a jock or get an easy 'A' in band. If they want that, let them join a club and pay for it themselves. I agree that the general education of children is important in a democracy. But getting to be the studly star guarterback who gets to fuck all the cheerleaders on my nickle isn't important to democracy at all.

                                        Maxxx_ wrote:

                                        So the US Government wanted to control student's art & sport? For what possible reason?

                                        Read the history of the progressive movement. The state takes over all personal training in education, sports, art, etc. It controls everything from the center.

                                        Maxxx_ wrote:

                                        You're not seriously suggesting that the decline in families sitting around the piano of an evening singing is due to the governments desire to control individual's musical development?

                                        That is precisely what happened.

                                        Maxxx_ wrote:

                                        I would also doubt (but don't have figures to prove it) that there were more sports clubs prior to compulsory education than after it. Even today the majority of sports are played in private clubs outside of school.

                                        A century or so ago, every town had its own sports teams, its own bands, private musci teachers, private art teachres, all of whom stayed gainfully employed.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        I should not be required to pay so that some other family's child can be a jock or get an easy 'A' in band.

                                        Ah - so it's about you! I didn't realise, I thought it was concern for the children' s welfare that was your motivation.

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        That is precisely what happened.

                                        You forgot the smiley, surely? You don't think that the advent of radio had something to do with it at all? Or was the introduction of the radio all a part of the government's plan to manipulate the masses for their own benefit?

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        A century or so ago, every town had its own sports teams, its own bands, private musci teachers, private art teachres, all of whom stayed gainfully employed.

                                        My town has several sports teams, numerous bands, a choir, many private music teachers, a number of art teachers (and galleries). As they've been around for a while, I assume they are gainfully employed. The village itself has a population of less than 700 - although I am including the immediate rural surrounds in the list of included 'rise against the feds' non academic gurus.

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                                          Yeah, and we can take even more of that money and spend it on fast food and soda for all students. Are you kidding me? I know this is a board for programmers, but are you seriously suggesting that taking sports out of schools is for the better? As if the nation wasn't obese enough, you want to cut off programs that force physical fitness. Sports aren't all about jocks. They're about building self confidence through competition. I guess being fat with poor self esteem is you're idea to get through tough times. I'm glad you're not an elected official where I am...

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                                          VonHagNDaz wrote:

                                          I guess being fat with poor self esteem is you're idea to get through tough times

                                          I have always believed in sit mens sana in corpore sano, but suppose you have to cut something because you don't have the money - which goes first: Algebra or Football?

                                          VonHagNDaz wrote:

                                          poor self esteem is you're idea to get through tough times

                                          Looks like your high-school chose Football over Spelling ;)

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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