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Okay; so let's get this straight: the 'Lounge After Dark' is now the 'Soapbox' where, once again, we can play voting games and the original Soapbox (which can still be reached here Soapbox[^]) will also be available, except without the voting? Perhaps you could rename that as well; how about 'Soapbox After Dark'? Not that, in the scale of things, it is important but, other than the voting and the nonsense of wiping out messages, there wasn't much wrong with the Soapbox as it stood. It may have, sometimes, bordered on the offensive or, now and again, looked like one person's private scrapbook but so what? It's a bit like real life: if I don't like what I read I'll ignore it and move on. Sorry: I know this is all supposed to have been resolved when you made your unilateral decision only it doesn't look like anything has really changed at all.
The problem with the Soapbox (of old) was that it had completely degenerated into a club for a small number of people to discuss a small number of very un-IT related issues. The soapbox is for the developer community as a whole to discuss developer community stuff. The Forum Formerly Known As The Soapbox And Possibly Soon To Be Known As The Backroom is a place for those guys to continue their flame wars, their slagging wars, their wars about climate change and religion, and for them to post link after off-topic link ad neuseum. The only forum where people continually played voting games was TFFNATSAPSTBKATB, and in that forum voting is still turned off.
digital man wrote:
it doesn't look like anything has really changed at all.
There was nothing fundamentally wrong with the Soapbox apart from that core element that wanted to discuss their core issues that had nothing to do with anything else on this site. They now have their own place and have left the soapbox to be what it should be. That's the change
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote:
vein
but he meant to write "vain" veins are things you don't like to see in your roast.
Or your meat pie. :~
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The problem with the Soapbox (of old) was that it had completely degenerated into a club for a small number of people to discuss a small number of very un-IT related issues. The soapbox is for the developer community as a whole to discuss developer community stuff. The Forum Formerly Known As The Soapbox And Possibly Soon To Be Known As The Backroom is a place for those guys to continue their flame wars, their slagging wars, their wars about climate change and religion, and for them to post link after off-topic link ad neuseum. The only forum where people continually played voting games was TFFNATSAPSTBKATB, and in that forum voting is still turned off.
digital man wrote:
it doesn't look like anything has really changed at all.
There was nothing fundamentally wrong with the Soapbox apart from that core element that wanted to discuss their core issues that had nothing to do with anything else on this site. They now have their own place and have left the soapbox to be what it should be. That's the change
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
The soapbox is for the developer community as a whole to discuss developer community stuff.
So that's where we were supposed to take our programming questions that didn't fit in the other forums?
Chris Maunder wrote:
degenerated into a club for a small number of people to discuss a small number of very un-IT related issues.
Isn't that the Lounge?
Chris Maunder wrote:
There was nothing fundamentally wrong with the Soapbox apart from that core element that wanted to discuss their core issues that had nothing to do with anything else on this site.
I thought that was the whole idea behind both the Lounge and the Soapbox. A place to talk about other than programming. Didn't people get flamed in either one for bringing programming into them?
"Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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Chris Maunder wrote:
The soapbox is for the developer community as a whole to discuss developer community stuff.
So that's where we were supposed to take our programming questions that didn't fit in the other forums?
Chris Maunder wrote:
degenerated into a club for a small number of people to discuss a small number of very un-IT related issues.
Isn't that the Lounge?
Chris Maunder wrote:
There was nothing fundamentally wrong with the Soapbox apart from that core element that wanted to discuss their core issues that had nothing to do with anything else on this site.
I thought that was the whole idea behind both the Lounge and the Soapbox. A place to talk about other than programming. Didn't people get flamed in either one for bringing programming into them?
"Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke
"Developer Community Stuff" does not mean "programming questions".
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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"Developer Community Stuff" does not mean "programming questions".
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I like the no voting in the soapbox...
EliottA wrote:
I like the no voting in the soapbox...
Yes, and it seems to have promoted a more civil discourse - no flamewars like in the Lounge (ducks)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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EliottA wrote:
I like the no voting in the soapbox...
Yes, and it seems to have promoted a more civil discourse - no flamewars like in the Lounge (ducks)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
It is getting a bit ugly, isn't it.
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I gave up trying to think of a good name for the Slightly Risque But Not Cellar-Depth Version Of The Lounge and so renamed it back to The Soapbox in the vein hope that it will be what I originally wanted it to be.
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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It is getting a bit ugly, isn't it.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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I gave up trying to think of a good name for the Slightly Risque But Not Cellar-Depth Version Of The Lounge and so renamed it back to The Soapbox in the vein hope that it will be what I originally wanted it to be.
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Oh well. I was still gunning for "The Mosh Pit", but you can't win them all, I guess.
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The problem with the Soapbox (of old) was that it had completely degenerated into a club for a small number of people to discuss a small number of very un-IT related issues. The soapbox is for the developer community as a whole to discuss developer community stuff. The Forum Formerly Known As The Soapbox And Possibly Soon To Be Known As The Backroom is a place for those guys to continue their flame wars, their slagging wars, their wars about climate change and religion, and for them to post link after off-topic link ad neuseum. The only forum where people continually played voting games was TFFNATSAPSTBKATB, and in that forum voting is still turned off.
digital man wrote:
it doesn't look like anything has really changed at all.
There was nothing fundamentally wrong with the Soapbox apart from that core element that wanted to discuss their core issues that had nothing to do with anything else on this site. They now have their own place and have left the soapbox to be what it should be. That's the change
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
You actually inadvertently came up with a good name suggestion for the underground soapbox, or even this one, "The Forum Formerly Known As The Soapbox". :-D
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