A day straight out of hell so far
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Having lived in Canada and having half of my family there, I consider Canada (Edmonton to be quite precise) my home and I would simply love to go back there. I could go on for hours on how beautiful my countries are (I'm weird that way :) ) I'd prefer Canada to any other nation, but my father has settled in Jordan and because of his state of health, I'd much rather somewhere a bit closer. It might be all in my head, I mean, its a flight trip either way. Also, its a candidate because my wife's family which is in abundance in Birmingham and Scotland, not to mention all the friends I made here :) Also, I have my own family to think about now, not to mention keeping my sharp edge when it comes to tech. Jordan is a great place to start but certainly not to grow and that's simply because the market is terribly small. Ultimately, what I'm looking for is a place where:
- A place that offers me a good environment to raise my child (and possible future children)
- A place that offers me a good wage or good returns on investment so that I can support my family
- A place that will let me live with the intellectual freedom that I seek off of the internet
- A place where I can with my own two hands build something or take part in building something that will mean something to the world
Sadly, there's too much external pressure and too much internal in-fighting compounded by greed in the Middle East for that to happen. My primary candidates are Canada, USA, UK, Australia. I can speak French (it used to be more fluent) and I'd happily learn another language (besides Ostreylien if I go to Oz ;))
Trollslayer wrote:
By the way, one of my nieces could always wrap her parents around her little finger. I wonder if your sone has been on a distance learning course with her? Laugh
I'm certain! I could be his personal genie :-D But I'll tell you that I love it :) His smile is worth the world to me :)
SA can definitely offer you the last three, and I think the first one, but many people here emigrate because they don't think a country taken over by Blacks and with a very high crime rate is a good place to raise a child.
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Incredible. This morning was just straight out of hell! 1. My son, for the first time ever woke up at 6ish and woke me up by slapping me continuously giggling and calling out "daddy!" 2. I walk into my office to find that my laptop hdd has crashed. Its OK, I have backups, its just an absolute pain to have to re-install everything :mad: 3. On the way to the Brit and Oz embassies, a twit of a lorry driver rear ends me, not much damage but the rear bumper is now cracked 4. Two blocks down the road a complete fool of a woman driving a Cayenne almost breaks off my right side mirror. Her excuse for driving like the fool she is, she's in a hurry because she was going to miss her morning appointment at a spa! :mad: 5. It takes 2 years of living in the UK before I get a permanent residence visa and that includes having to have a job. It is my understanding that you practically can't get a job unless you're a permanent resident or a citizen. 6. The Oz embassy was closed today because its a religious holiday that I completely blanked out about. However, I was told that for permanent residence visas, I might as well apply for immigration. So far, not a good start
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
It takes 2 years of living in the UK before I get a permanent residence visa and that includes having to have a job. It is my understanding that you practically can't get a job unless you're a permanent resident or a citizen.
WTF? I'm no expert on the UK's immigration program, but with a Tier 1 visa (previously called the HSMP) you can immigrate without a job offer. It's a points-based system, and having relatives, having done your Masters, etc count heavily in your favour. I suggest you do some research (ok, googling ;P) on this. There's also a Work Permit, but that's only if some company is giving you a job offer and offering to sponsor you. Getting a WP today will be a miracle, though, sorry.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
My son, for the first time ever woke up at 6ish and woke me up by slapping me continuously giggling and calling out "daddy!"
Enjoy it while it lasts. Seriously.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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Trollslayer wrote:
You know, the UK is my home and I love it. Yes, I have been to the US.
Please don't mistake Lauren for one of US. She liked to piss on the US when she was a guest there also. I travel a lot and the one thing I never do is slag the place or customs of the people I am visiting. People and customs are different all over the world and I respect that diversity. Call me an ugly American, but I consider it bad manners to be critical of how people live anywhere in the world. I don't have to live there or even visit if I don't like the place, but I don’t have to be critical either.
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesso if i was a guest in zimbabwe i should be praising that despot too should i? criticizing a country for flagrant abuses against humanity is the duty of all citizens of the world imho ... and instead of being patriotic about one piece of rock why not try being the same way about the whole planet and all who live on it? oh what? you can't cos there's no flag to wave? oh shame and where do you get off attacking me personally for an opinion about a country? look to your own before mouthing off about someone else in future X|
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You know, the UK is my home and I love it. Yes, I have been to the US. F*** you.
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Trollslayer wrote:
F*** you.
:omg:
modified on Sunday, March 8, 2009 9:27 AM
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Trollslayer wrote:
F*** you.
:omg:
modified on Sunday, March 8, 2009 9:27 AM
Yeah, I'm surprised Elaine can get riled up like that. :~ She even just said "Sod you" or something to that effect after the July 7 bombings. Beware the fury of patient men, eh? (OK, in this case, the fury of patient slayers of trolls)
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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an attack on your home??? fuck you lady with the patriotic crap and all the bs that goes with it ... if you can't accept others who also come from there have differing opinions without waving some "god save the queen" crap and getting all personal then screw you
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
l a u r e n wrote:
an attack on your home???
I don't know... suggesting anybody who wants to live in the UK is a lunatic is pretty strong. FWIW, I lived two months in England and loved it.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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Yeah, I'm surprised Elaine can get riled up like that. :~ She even just said "Sod you" or something to that effect after the July 7 bombings. Beware the fury of patient men, eh? (OK, in this case, the fury of patient slayers of trolls)
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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Meeeeoooow! Can we organize some mud wrestling somewhere? :laugh:
Wout
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You know, the UK is my home and I love it. Yes, I have been to the US. F*** you.
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Trollslayer wrote:
F*** you.
5.00/5 (6 votes) Wow, you've got to be the only CPian who can get six 5-votes for saying "Fuck you" in the Lounge :rolleyes:
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
It takes 2 years of living in the UK before I get a permanent residence visa and that includes having to have a job. It is my understanding that you practically can't get a job unless you're a permanent resident or a citizen.
WTF? I'm no expert on the UK's immigration program, but with a Tier 1 visa (previously called the HSMP) you can immigrate without a job offer. It's a points-based system, and having relatives, having done your Masters, etc count heavily in your favour. I suggest you do some research (ok, googling ;P) on this. There's also a Work Permit, but that's only if some company is giving you a job offer and offering to sponsor you. Getting a WP today will be a miracle, though, sorry.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
My son, for the first time ever woke up at 6ish and woke me up by slapping me continuously giggling and calling out "daddy!"
Enjoy it while it lasts. Seriously.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
That was my understanding as well. Having an abode and a job helps expedite the process of obtaining the visa. After 2 years, you'll get it 'no questions asked'.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
There's also a Work Permit, but that's only if some company is giving you a job offer and offering to sponsor you. Getting a WP today will be a miracle, though, sorry.
Too true!
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Enjoy it while it lasts. Seriously.
I think I'm going to have an awesome relationship with my kids :)
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Meeeeoooow! Can we organize some mud wrestling somewhere? :laugh:
Wout
wout de zeeuw wrote:
Can we organize some mud wrestling somewhere?
Caaaaaaaaaaaat fighttttttttttttttttt! :-D
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Trollslayer wrote:
You know, the UK is my home and I love it. Yes, I have been to the US.
Please don't mistake Lauren for one of US. She liked to piss on the US when she was a guest there also. I travel a lot and the one thing I never do is slag the place or customs of the people I am visiting. People and customs are different all over the world and I respect that diversity. Call me an ugly American, but I consider it bad manners to be critical of how people live anywhere in the world. I don't have to live there or even visit if I don't like the place, but I don’t have to be critical either.
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesI've been to the US and it varies so much from one place to another, I don't think many Europeans realise that since most of what we see is on a film set. Oddly enough, I find german culture is much closer to british and with the new project we are working with a german partner company. The only down side is their humour can be dafter than ours :doh: Like anywhere else (inlcuding the UK), there are good and bad points.
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wout de zeeuw wrote:
Can we organize some mud wrestling somewhere?
Caaaaaaaaaaaat fighttttttttttttttttt! :-D
Regards, Nish
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It's simple, don't get between me and mine. Other than that I'm a helpless ball of fluff, honest. :rolleyes:
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FWIW, I loved the two months I spent in England. My only real regrets are not being able to meet any CPians and not being able to visit Cymru and Caledonia. I would have loved even more to visit Hibernia, but I didn't have any false hopes about that :sigh: (Well, there's one more regret, but I can't talk about it here... :-O )
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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That response took ten minutes longer than I thought. ;P
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I didn't want to seem rude. Besides, if my wife were to see me post that, my head would be on a spike :suss:
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Having lived in Canada and having half of my family there, I consider Canada (Edmonton to be quite precise) my home and I would simply love to go back there. I could go on for hours on how beautiful my countries are (I'm weird that way :) ) I'd prefer Canada to any other nation, but my father has settled in Jordan and because of his state of health, I'd much rather somewhere a bit closer. It might be all in my head, I mean, its a flight trip either way. Also, its a candidate because my wife's family which is in abundance in Birmingham and Scotland, not to mention all the friends I made here :) Also, I have my own family to think about now, not to mention keeping my sharp edge when it comes to tech. Jordan is a great place to start but certainly not to grow and that's simply because the market is terribly small. Ultimately, what I'm looking for is a place where:
- A place that offers me a good environment to raise my child (and possible future children)
- A place that offers me a good wage or good returns on investment so that I can support my family
- A place that will let me live with the intellectual freedom that I seek off of the internet
- A place where I can with my own two hands build something or take part in building something that will mean something to the world
Sadly, there's too much external pressure and too much internal in-fighting compounded by greed in the Middle East for that to happen. My primary candidates are Canada, USA, UK, Australia. I can speak French (it used to be more fluent) and I'd happily learn another language (besides Ostreylien if I go to Oz ;))
Trollslayer wrote:
By the way, one of my nieces could always wrap her parents around her little finger. I wonder if your sone has been on a distance learning course with her? Laugh
I'm certain! I could be his personal genie :-D But I'll tell you that I love it :) His smile is worth the world to me :)
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Trollslayer wrote:
F*** you.
5.00/5 (6 votes) Wow, you've got to be the only CPian who can get six 5-votes for saying "Fuck you" in the Lounge :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linky'know, I didn't even notice that :doh:
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That was my understanding as well. Having an abode and a job helps expedite the process of obtaining the visa. After 2 years, you'll get it 'no questions asked'.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
There's also a Work Permit, but that's only if some company is giving you a job offer and offering to sponsor you. Getting a WP today will be a miracle, though, sorry.
Too true!
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Enjoy it while it lasts. Seriously.
I think I'm going to have an awesome relationship with my kids :)
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
That was my understanding as well. Having an abode and a job helps expedite the process of obtaining the visa. After 2 years, you'll get it 'no questions asked'.
One of us doesn't understand the other, and frankly, I'm not sure which one. :doh: My understanding: even somebody who's never been to the UK can get a Tier 1 visa without actually going there. They can use this to enter the UK and then search for jobs. Like I said, you may want to do more research. Oh, I started a whole new thread for you. C&H, one of my favourites. :)
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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so if i was a guest in zimbabwe i should be praising that despot too should i? criticizing a country for flagrant abuses against humanity is the duty of all citizens of the world imho ... and instead of being patriotic about one piece of rock why not try being the same way about the whole planet and all who live on it? oh what? you can't cos there's no flag to wave? oh shame and where do you get off attacking me personally for an opinion about a country? look to your own before mouthing off about someone else in future X|
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
l a u r e n wrote:
so if i was a guest in zimbabwe i should be praising that despot too should i?
Don't be daft. From my experiences in Zimbabwe the people there are some of the friendliest on the planet. I wouldn't go there these days because of the political situation, but I still have fond memories of the hospitality I received there.
l a u r e n wrote:
criticizing a country for flagrant abuses against humanity is the duty of all citizens of the world imho
Then in your opinion England is practicing "flagrant abuses against humanity"? I hadn't realized how far off the deep end you were.
l a u r e n wrote:
and instead of being patriotic about one piece of rock why not try being the same way about the whole planet and all who live on it?
You don't have to be, but it is Elaine's prerogative if she chooses.
l a u r e n wrote:
and where do you get off attacking me personally for an opinion about a country?
Don't get your panties in a bunch. I was commenting about something you wrote to me about your being tired of the US and the people there and couldn’t wait to leave. I thought it was hypocritical of you to carp about a place that gave you a work opportunity, but then you were leaving soon so good riddens.
l a u r e n wrote:
look to your own before mouthing off about someone else in future
Piss off!
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I didn't want to seem rude. Besides, if my wife were to see me post that, my head would be on a spike :suss:
At your service maestro. :cool:
Wout