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  • D Dalek Dave

    Gotten is an old english word no longer used in its original manner. It meant gained. Today it is only used as an adjunct in terms like Ill-gotten or Mis-begotten. I know USians still employ it as a word, but there lies many a difference! :) Funnily it is not a word I disapprove of as it is still within the English Language. Dove as a past participle though! Urghhh! Dived please!

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    Shog9 0
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    I know USians still employ it as a word, but there lies many a difference!

    Eh, ask any American - we speak English, you guys speak... some degenerate dialect. ;-P

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      Gotten is an old english word no longer used in its original manner. It meant gained. Today it is only used as an adjunct in terms like Ill-gotten or Mis-begotten. I know USians still employ it as a word, but there lies many a difference! :) Funnily it is not a word I disapprove of as it is still within the English Language. Dove as a past participle though! Urghhh! Dived please!

      ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      which is better? I dove into the water? I dived into the water? Personally, I like the first since it sounds better. It's also easier to say.

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        which is better? I dove into the water? I dived into the water? Personally, I like the first since it sounds better. It's also easier to say.

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        Sounds better has nothing to do with it. He dived into the water. ENGLISH He dove into the water. MANGLED AMERICANISED ENGLISH The Clue to the Language is in it's name!

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Gotten is an old english word no longer used in its original manner. It meant gained. Today it is only used as an adjunct in terms like Ill-gotten or Mis-begotten. I know USians still employ it as a word, but there lies many a difference! :) Funnily it is not a word I disapprove of as it is still within the English Language. Dove as a past participle though! Urghhh! Dived please!

          ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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          Do you even understand why I posted this?

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Gotten is an old english word no longer used in its original manner. It meant gained. Today it is only used as an adjunct in terms like Ill-gotten or Mis-begotten. I know USians still employ it as a word, but there lies many a difference! :) Funnily it is not a word I disapprove of as it is still within the English Language. Dove as a past participle though! Urghhh! Dived please!

            ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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            Jim Crafton
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            "He dove through the air with the greatest of ease" "He dived through the air with the greatest of ease" Hmm, personally I think I'd prefer the former, it seems to sound better.

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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              I know USians still employ it as a word, but there lies many a difference!

              Eh, ask any American - we speak English, you guys speak... some degenerate dialect. ;-P

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              Dalek Dave
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              USians speak something approximating English, but with curious spellings, appalling grammar and a quaint syntax! :)

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                Do you even understand why I posted this?

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Truthfully? No! Do tell!

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Sounds better has nothing to do with it. He dived into the water. ENGLISH He dove into the water. MANGLED AMERICANISED ENGLISH The Clue to the Language is in it's name!

                  ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  Bah humbug! You're just jealous because we can spell with fewer letters than you!

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Truthfully? No! Do tell!

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                    Check the SoapBox 2.0...

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      "He dove through the air with the greatest of ease" "He dived through the air with the greatest of ease" Hmm, personally I think I'd prefer the former, it seems to sound better.

                      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                      I strived to learn English, I did not Strove! :-D

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Gotten is an old english word no longer used in its original manner. It meant gained. Today it is only used as an adjunct in terms like Ill-gotten or Mis-begotten. I know USians still employ it as a word, but there lies many a difference! :) Funnily it is not a word I disapprove of as it is still within the English Language. Dove as a past participle though! Urghhh! Dived please!

                        ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        Funnily it is not a word I disapprove of as it is still within the English LanguageAmerican English.

                        :-) If you take every word in every local dialect of English to be valid British English then your OED is going to expand from a shelf to a (largish) room.

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Truthfully? No! Do tell!

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                          realJSOP
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                          And Chris doesn't like the word GOTTEN, so we bold it whenever we use it.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            I strived to learn English, I did not Strove! :-D

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                            Of course not, everybody knows that Strove isn't even a word! But dove is an exception, surely?

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                              Bah humbug! You're just jealous because we can spell with fewer letters than you!

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                              ...and be right. :)

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              • H hairy_hats

                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                Funnily it is not a word I disapprove of as it is still within the English LanguageAmerican English.

                                :-) If you take every word in every local dialect of English to be valid British English then your OED is going to expand from a shelf to a (largish) room.

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                                It already has over 1,000,000 words and is in 30 volumes!

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                                  And Chris doesn't like the word GOTTEN, so we bold it whenever we use it.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  Dalek Dave
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                                  I see you were being satirical! I am not overly keen on it, but now I know Chris is anti-gotten I shall enjoin the zeitgeist! :-D

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                                    ...and be right. :)

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Dalek Dave
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                                    rite

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      I strived to learn English, I did not Strove! :-D

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                                      Oh, just because we think "dove" is a valid form of "dive", you think we're idiots and that the same rule should apply to words that are spelled similarly? C'mon, we all know English isn't that straightforward, and we also know that you're just being pedantic...

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Oh, just because we think "dove" is a valid form of "dive", you think we're idiots and that the same rule should apply to words that are spelled similarly? C'mon, we all know English isn't that straightforward, and we also know that you're just being pedantic...

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Dalek Dave
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                                        Me, a pedant? Surely not!

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          It already has over 1,000,000 words and is in 30 volumes!

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                                          No need to pad it out further with non-Britishisms like gotten and y'all then...

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