WMV 9 & DivX 5.02
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:-O Well, you can make a backup copy of your DVD... :~ :) New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
It's probably their way of pushing their format anyway. ;) B.
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Isn't DivX synomous with DVD ripping and piracy ;) B.
DivX is an effective video codec. You can use it to DVD piracy. Also you can use a kitchen knife to murder ;) Pavel Sonork 100.15206
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Don't know if anyone else posted this before, but I'll post anyway. I installed the new WMV9. All looked ok, until I played one of my DivX 5.02 encoded clips. They looked grainy now. So I uninstalled WMV9, played the same clip and was shocked by the result. See for yourself: http://www.kwakkelflap.com/test/test.html[^] New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
The beta version at least is a real slow starter on my machine compared to 7.
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Don't know if anyone else posted this before, but I'll post anyway. I installed the new WMV9. All looked ok, until I played one of my DivX 5.02 encoded clips. They looked grainy now. So I uninstalled WMV9, played the same clip and was shocked by the result. See for yourself: http://www.kwakkelflap.com/test/test.html[^] New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
No reason for it to play back poorly. Not as if MS installed a "grainy" filter. Probably just a minor miscommuication between the WMV9 and the decoder. Minor bug by MS or DivX (and yes, this could be a DivX bug). Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Isn't DivX synomous with DVD ripping and piracy ;) B.
Synonymous to make a readable copy of what I've already own, and attacking ships, killing, raping and basically being a not-too-nice-person on the seas? What on earth do these actions have in common? Microsoft?
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No reason for it to play back poorly. Not as if MS installed a "grainy" filter. Probably just a minor miscommuication between the WMV9 and the decoder. Minor bug by MS or DivX (and yes, this could be a DivX bug). Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
I think it's far more likely a M$ bug / option than a DivX bug. Tim Smith wrote: No reason for it to play back poorly No? Imagine people trying out the new WMV9. Their newly encoded clip will "look a lot better than older encodings done with DivX 5.02". So people will assume WMV9 is a better codec than DivX 5.02 while it is actually media player crippling the DivX... New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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I think it's far more likely a M$ bug / option than a DivX bug. Tim Smith wrote: No reason for it to play back poorly No? Imagine people trying out the new WMV9. Their newly encoded clip will "look a lot better than older encodings done with DivX 5.02". So people will assume WMV9 is a better codec than DivX 5.02 while it is actually media player crippling the DivX... New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Why? Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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I think it's far more likely a M$ bug / option than a DivX bug. Tim Smith wrote: No reason for it to play back poorly No? Imagine people trying out the new WMV9. Their newly encoded clip will "look a lot better than older encodings done with DivX 5.02". So people will assume WMV9 is a better codec than DivX 5.02 while it is actually media player crippling the DivX... New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Ugh, more of that "MS IS OUT TO GET EVERYONE!!!" MS can't even write their own code properly. With new versions of the OS, they break their own applications just as much as they break others. Now why in the hell would MS be wanting to break MS-WORD? They want to force them out of the market? Usually, the simple answer is the correct one. Either MS changed an interface slightly (bug?) or DivX didn't implement the other end of the interface properly. It happens all the time. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Why? Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
Tim Smith wrote: Why? Hmmm, let's see. Maybe so that people would start encoding WMV9 and drop DivX because of the "quality difference" ? New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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Don't know if anyone else posted this before, but I'll post anyway. I installed the new WMV9. All looked ok, until I played one of my DivX 5.02 encoded clips. They looked grainy now. So I uninstalled WMV9, played the same clip and was shocked by the result. See for yourself: http://www.kwakkelflap.com/test/test.html[^] New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
I just installed WMP9 yesterday, and use it to view DivX 5.03 movies (also Star Trek TNG ;) ) and it looks fine :-) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Tim Smith wrote: Why? Hmmm, let's see. Maybe so that people would start encoding WMV9 and drop DivX because of the "quality difference" ? New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
OOOO, lets call up X-Files and Sylvia Brown and get the paranormal involved too. We can have conspiracy, aliens, and ghosts all involved at once. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Don't know if anyone else posted this before, but I'll post anyway. I installed the new WMV9. All looked ok, until I played one of my DivX 5.02 encoded clips. They looked grainy now. So I uninstalled WMV9, played the same clip and was shocked by the result. See for yourself: http://www.kwakkelflap.com/test/test.html[^] New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
Kwakkie wrote: _So I uninstalled WMV9, played the same clip and was shocked by the result. See for yourself: http://www.kwakkelflap.com/test/test.html\[^\]_ OMG, how shocking, I just hope Data managed to vapourise those Klingons fast enough... Oh we are talking about the quality of the video? Errrr, do remember this is a BETA of WMP9, not the realase version. So there are sure to be problems, deal with it :)
Paul Watson
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I just installed WMP9 yesterday, and use it to view DivX 5.03 movies (also Star Trek TNG ;) ) and it looks fine :-) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Which probably means that there were bugs in 5.02. What a concept. Like I was trying to say to the original poster, the simple answer is usually the correct one. Some programmer made a mistake and now it is fixed. But of course, a nice juicy conspiracy theory is something The Register would love. Maybe someone should report this to them. :laugh: Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Another reason to stick with WMP 6. Is there anything in WMP9 that you might actually want? /Magnus
- I don't necessarily agree with everything I say
_Magnus_ wrote: Is there anything in WMP9 that you might actually want? - Taskbar control - Auto playlists - Improved normal playlists - Better handling of big media libraries than WMP8 - Built in cross fading - Taskbar control - Volume leveling - Better tag editing - Taskbar control - Rating system - Queue-it-up feature - Did I mention the taskbar control? :-D All in all a very good upgrade, even for a BETA.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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OOOO, lets call up X-Files and Sylvia Brown and get the paranormal involved too. We can have conspiracy, aliens, and ghosts all involved at once. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
You have their phone number? Yup yup let's call. Way to exaggerate. I'm just telling that they could do that, not that ms actually cripple DivX. Actually I don't know Sylvia Brown. But paranoid as I am, it would be best to look her up. New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking
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_Magnus_ wrote: Is there anything in WMP9 that you might actually want? - Taskbar control - Auto playlists - Improved normal playlists - Better handling of big media libraries than WMP8 - Built in cross fading - Taskbar control - Volume leveling - Better tag editing - Taskbar control - Rating system - Queue-it-up feature - Did I mention the taskbar control? :-D All in all a very good upgrade, even for a BETA.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaBah, explorer is the only playlist for me, nice hierarchical tree on the left, descriptive filenames on the right, context menus, built-in file management, what more could you ask for ;P What exactly does the Taskbar control do?
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
'ugly naked women are good, when i'm not around, in front of someone else' - Shog9 -
Bah, explorer is the only playlist for me, nice hierarchical tree on the left, descriptive filenames on the right, context menus, built-in file management, what more could you ask for ;P What exactly does the Taskbar control do?
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
'ugly naked women are good, when i'm not around, in front of someone else' - Shog9Bruce Duncan wrote: What exactly does the Taskbar control do? It is the sweetest thing. When you minimize WMP9 (and have enabled the Windows MEdia Player taskbar toolbar) it minimizes to your taskbar and presents you with a little row of buttons to control WMP9. So damned useful :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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Bruce Duncan wrote: What exactly does the Taskbar control do? It is the sweetest thing. When you minimize WMP9 (and have enabled the Windows MEdia Player taskbar toolbar) it minimizes to your taskbar and presents you with a little row of buttons to control WMP9. So damned useful :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaPaul Watson wrote: It is the sweetest thing Yeah, it is kinda cute. ;P
Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
'ugly naked women are good, when i'm not around, in front of someone else' - Shog9 -
Bruce Duncan wrote: What exactly does the Taskbar control do? It is the sweetest thing. When you minimize WMP9 (and have enabled the Windows MEdia Player taskbar toolbar) it minimizes to your taskbar and presents you with a little row of buttons to control WMP9. So damned useful :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaThat will look pretty stupid on my vertical taskbar :( Todd Smith
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That will look pretty stupid on my vertical taskbar :( Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote: That will look pretty stupid on my vertical taskbar Judge for yourself[^] (though how you live with a vertical task bar is beyond me :) .)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
