Oh oh.
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If China wants war to divert its people's attention, India may probably be the first target. China continues to occupy Aksai Chin and Chumbi valley, and claims Arunachal Pradesh as its own territory. It also heavily influences three other countries India shares a border with: Pakistan, Nepal, Burma. Or China and Pakistan could do it together. Pakistan itself is going through internal strife, though the primary cause is not the economy there.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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Oakman wrote:
What happens if the US goes after Pakistan which is probably more of China's ally that they have ever been the US's?
Probably? :suss:
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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I was thinking more along the lines of Chinese internal strife rather than general war with any of its neighbours. But having said that, do you feel that China could turn openly hostile to India?
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
do you feel that China could turn openly hostile to India
Let's ask Tibet.
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India isn't like Tibet. India can pack a fair punch that might make Beijing think twice. The price might be a tad too high.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
India can pack a fair punch that might make Beijing think twice.
Agreed. But if we are discussing China getting into combat with the U.S., we cannot assume that she would blink at thge idea of taking on India.
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I was thinking more along the lines of Chinese internal strife rather than general war with any of its neighbours. But having said that, do you feel that China could turn openly hostile to India?
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
With e-mail accounts you can't access them without a password
Hey, what is this, Internet 101? :) I was thinking more along the lines of sharing it privately amongst a small group, to prevent abuse. But yeah, there are disadvantages with approach too. Just my 1 cent (due to the recession ;) ).
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
With e-mail accounts you can't access them without a password
Hey, what is this, Internet 101? :) I was thinking more along the lines of sharing it privately amongst a small group, to prevent abuse. But yeah, there are disadvantages with approach too. Just my 1 cent (due to the recession ;) ).
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Hey, what is this, Internet 101?
Sorry :-O As soon as Maunder fixes the e-mail link there would probably be a reduced need for such an external account. Anyhow, given a day or two this thread will be almost out-of-site and forgotten.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Hey, what is this, Internet 101?
Sorry :-O As soon as Maunder fixes the e-mail link there would probably be a reduced need for such an external account. Anyhow, given a day or two this thread will be almost out-of-site and forgotten.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
As soon as Maunder fixes the e-mail link
Ok I was following along fine until I got to that, what am I missing?
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China's premier worried for U.S. investments[^] "Beijing has high expectations for U.S. President Barack Obama's economic recovery strategy, but worries remain about the safety of China's assets in the United States, Premier Wen Jiabao said on Friday." What's next? China dumping US t-bills?
73Zeppelin wrote:
What's next? China dumping US t-bills?
Well, there was some wild-ass conspiracy-mongering speculation recently that part of the deal Mrs Clinton was in China to conduct involved giving the Chinese government "rights" to eminent domain in the US. Crazy, I know ... I mean, who could ever even imagine that Democrats might ever seek to compromise the sovereignty of the People of the US?
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
India can pack a fair punch that might make Beijing think twice.
Agreed. But if we are discussing China getting into combat with the U.S., we cannot assume that she would blink at thge idea of taking on India.
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Oakman wrote:
China getting into combat with the U.S.
Not sure if China would want that as they would be most likely to come off second best. And the people of California wouldn't need to wonder when the big one would strike as it might no longer exist.
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China's premier worried for U.S. investments[^] "Beijing has high expectations for U.S. President Barack Obama's economic recovery strategy, but worries remain about the safety of China's assets in the United States, Premier Wen Jiabao said on Friday." What's next? China dumping US t-bills?
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I think from all that I read China has been preparing for a non-traditional "war" where they exercise greater influence over not just economics, but also cyberspace. By controlling those 2 areas, they could become the next "world's only superpower".
fred_ wrote:
By controlling those 2 areas, they could become the next "world's only superpower".
Throw in space itself and they've got a lock. China's space program is ramping up, just as the US program goes onto hiatus (After next year, we'll be renting space on the Russian program until and unless Orion bears fruit - something Obama has already indicated he thinks should be postponed.) I strongly suspect that President Hu and Premier Wen know very well that when engaged in a rock fight, it's better to be at the top of the well than standing at the bottom.
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fred_ wrote:
By controlling those 2 areas, they could become the next "world's only superpower".
Throw in space itself and they've got a lock. China's space program is ramping up, just as the US program goes onto hiatus (After next year, we'll be renting space on the Russian program until and unless Orion bears fruit - something Obama has already indicated he thinks should be postponed.) I strongly suspect that President Hu and Premier Wen know very well that when engaged in a rock fight, it's better to be at the top of the well than standing at the bottom.
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fred_ wrote:
By controlling those 2 areas, they could become the next "world's only superpower".
Throw in space itself and they've got a lock. China's space program is ramping up, just as the US program goes onto hiatus (After next year, we'll be renting space on the Russian program until and unless Orion bears fruit - something Obama has already indicated he thinks should be postponed.) I strongly suspect that President Hu and Premier Wen know very well that when engaged in a rock fight, it's better to be at the top of the well than standing at the bottom.
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I recently went to talk given by Neil Degrasse Tyson. He made a very salient point that if we want to see our space program ramp up all we really need is a rumor or two of China or Russia wanting to build a military base in orbit, on the moon or, on Mars. [Edit] Hopefully somebody can direct the defense department to read at least bits of "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?