Handyman in the house?
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One of my bedroom cupboards' doors has lost a hinge. They're the type that is attached to the door by a round part, about 30mm x 7mm that is embedded in a round hole the same size in the chipboard door. The actual door-side hinge clips into a hollow metal 'cup' that is supposed to stay stuck in the hole in the board. This cup has come loose, and I'm trying to figure a way of securing the cup in the whole. My first thought was simply a screw through the cup bottom, but there is only about 3mm of chipboard between the bottom of the hole and the front of the cupboard door. Next I considered glue, but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces. I considered drilling holes in the cup, to allow glue to key into the cup, but the bottom of the cup must remain flat so that the door-side hinge can fit into it. Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
Brady Kelly wrote:
but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces.
You must have tried using the wrong type of glue. Airplane wings on commercial airliners are "glued" together for the whole :)
Brady Kelly wrote:
Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
I will, once I'm actually able to understand what this "cup" is; can you post a picture? Carpentry is a hobby of mine :)
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Brady Kelly wrote:
but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces.
You must have tried using the wrong type of glue. Airplane wings on commercial airliners are "glued" together for the whole :)
Brady Kelly wrote:
Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
I will, once I'm actually able to understand what this "cup" is; can you post a picture? Carpentry is a hobby of mine :)
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
can you post a picture?
My Bluetooth is disabled, and my phone has no USB. I'll have to draw one 'quickly' in Visio.
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One of my bedroom cupboards' doors has lost a hinge. They're the type that is attached to the door by a round part, about 30mm x 7mm that is embedded in a round hole the same size in the chipboard door. The actual door-side hinge clips into a hollow metal 'cup' that is supposed to stay stuck in the hole in the board. This cup has come loose, and I'm trying to figure a way of securing the cup in the whole. My first thought was simply a screw through the cup bottom, but there is only about 3mm of chipboard between the bottom of the hole and the front of the cupboard door. Next I considered glue, but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces. I considered drilling holes in the cup, to allow glue to key into the cup, but the bottom of the cup must remain flat so that the door-side hinge can fit into it. Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
I'd probably put 1+ holes in the sides of the cup and short flat-head nails to secure it ... along with glue. I'd also try to pre-drill at least part of the nail holes as nailing sideways isn't going to be easy.
...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack
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One of my bedroom cupboards' doors has lost a hinge. They're the type that is attached to the door by a round part, about 30mm x 7mm that is embedded in a round hole the same size in the chipboard door. The actual door-side hinge clips into a hollow metal 'cup' that is supposed to stay stuck in the hole in the board. This cup has come loose, and I'm trying to figure a way of securing the cup in the whole. My first thought was simply a screw through the cup bottom, but there is only about 3mm of chipboard between the bottom of the hole and the front of the cupboard door. Next I considered glue, but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces. I considered drilling holes in the cup, to allow glue to key into the cup, but the bottom of the cup must remain flat so that the door-side hinge can fit into it. Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
Isn't your wife/girlfriend demanding new bedroom furnishing? Mine would be. :laugh:
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
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Isn't your wife/girlfriend demanding new bedroom furnishing? Mine would be. :laugh:
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
I have no wife or girlfriend, but my bedroom is the first place I need to sort out before I get one. :)
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I'd probably put 1+ holes in the sides of the cup and short flat-head nails to secure it ... along with glue. I'd also try to pre-drill at least part of the nail holes as nailing sideways isn't going to be easy.
...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack
cmk wrote:
nailing sideways isn't going to be easy.
No kidding. The cup is only 8mm deep and 30mm across; its sides aren't aren't solid, some parts are only 3mm high; and the hinge won't fit into the cup with the nails there.
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One of my bedroom cupboards' doors has lost a hinge. They're the type that is attached to the door by a round part, about 30mm x 7mm that is embedded in a round hole the same size in the chipboard door. The actual door-side hinge clips into a hollow metal 'cup' that is supposed to stay stuck in the hole in the board. This cup has come loose, and I'm trying to figure a way of securing the cup in the whole. My first thought was simply a screw through the cup bottom, but there is only about 3mm of chipboard between the bottom of the hole and the front of the cupboard door. Next I considered glue, but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces. I considered drilling holes in the cup, to allow glue to key into the cup, but the bottom of the cup must remain flat so that the door-side hinge can fit into it. Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
My guess is that you have a hinge similar to this on http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21311[^]. What noramally holds the cup in the hole? If the hinge has screws similar to the one in the picture and they are stripped out, try putting toothpicks into the hole with wood glue. Just brek them off even with the door surface then you can run the crews back into the partially filled holes. If the cups were somehow held in place by friction..... then I would get some sandpaper, say grit and rough the surface of the cup that contacts the hole. There are several good 2 part epoxies that will hold metal fairly well and should hold up ok. Sometimes it comes in handy being a woodworker as a hobby.......
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Brady Kelly wrote:
but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces.
You must have tried using the wrong type of glue. Airplane wings on commercial airliners are "glued" together for the whole :)
Brady Kelly wrote:
Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
I will, once I'm actually able to understand what this "cup" is; can you post a picture? Carpentry is a hobby of mine :)
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
can you post a picture?
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My guess is that you have a hinge similar to this on http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21311[^]. What noramally holds the cup in the hole? If the hinge has screws similar to the one in the picture and they are stripped out, try putting toothpicks into the hole with wood glue. Just brek them off even with the door surface then you can run the crews back into the partially filled holes. If the cups were somehow held in place by friction..... then I would get some sandpaper, say grit and rough the surface of the cup that contacts the hole. There are several good 2 part epoxies that will hold metal fairly well and should hold up ok. Sometimes it comes in handy being a woodworker as a hobby.......
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote:
If the cups were somehow held in place by friction..... then I would get some sandpaper, say grit and rough the surface of the cup that contacts the hole. There are several good 2 part epoxies that will hold metal fairly well and should hold up ok.
The cup was indeed held in place by friction. I'll try a two parter epoxy, thanks.
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Doug Goulden wrote:
If the cups were somehow held in place by friction..... then I would get some sandpaper, say grit and rough the surface of the cup that contacts the hole. There are several good 2 part epoxies that will hold metal fairly well and should hold up ok.
The cup was indeed held in place by friction. I'll try a two parter epoxy, thanks.
Make sure to rough the surface of the cup with some coarse sandpaper.... It will help a lot
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Make sure to rough the surface of the cup with some coarse sandpaper.... It will help a lot
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Maybe even a light tickle with the angle grinder. :suss:
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One of my bedroom cupboards' doors has lost a hinge. They're the type that is attached to the door by a round part, about 30mm x 7mm that is embedded in a round hole the same size in the chipboard door. The actual door-side hinge clips into a hollow metal 'cup' that is supposed to stay stuck in the hole in the board. This cup has come loose, and I'm trying to figure a way of securing the cup in the whole. My first thought was simply a screw through the cup bottom, but there is only about 3mm of chipboard between the bottom of the hole and the front of the cupboard door. Next I considered glue, but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces. I considered drilling holes in the cup, to allow glue to key into the cup, but the bottom of the cup must remain flat so that the door-side hinge can fit into it. Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
Epoxy glues adhere nicely to metal, as anyone who has restored a broken cast metal auto part will attest. Other than that, without a drawing or photo it's hard to suggest anything else.
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Epoxy glues adhere nicely to metal, as anyone who has restored a broken cast metal auto part will attest. Other than that, without a drawing or photo it's hard to suggest anything else.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Having though about it more, Pratley Steel[^] should be great for this, unless the door is subjected to strain - the chipboard will never compete with the glue. However, I will probably be fitting new doors, solid wood doors later this year.
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One of my bedroom cupboards' doors has lost a hinge. They're the type that is attached to the door by a round part, about 30mm x 7mm that is embedded in a round hole the same size in the chipboard door. The actual door-side hinge clips into a hollow metal 'cup' that is supposed to stay stuck in the hole in the board. This cup has come loose, and I'm trying to figure a way of securing the cup in the whole. My first thought was simply a screw through the cup bottom, but there is only about 3mm of chipboard between the bottom of the hole and the front of the cupboard door. Next I considered glue, but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces. I considered drilling holes in the cup, to allow glue to key into the cup, but the bottom of the cup must remain flat so that the door-side hinge can fit into it. Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
Go for the glue, but a strong kind. You can rough up the metal surface with sandpaper.
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One of my bedroom cupboards' doors has lost a hinge. They're the type that is attached to the door by a round part, about 30mm x 7mm that is embedded in a round hole the same size in the chipboard door. The actual door-side hinge clips into a hollow metal 'cup' that is supposed to stay stuck in the hole in the board. This cup has come loose, and I'm trying to figure a way of securing the cup in the whole. My first thought was simply a screw through the cup bottom, but there is only about 3mm of chipboard between the bottom of the hole and the front of the cupboard door. Next I considered glue, but glue doesn't generally bond well to smooth metal surfaces. I considered drilling holes in the cup, to allow glue to key into the cup, but the bottom of the cup must remain flat so that the door-side hinge can fit into it. Any suggestions? Am I making sense?
