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Obama Wants US Veterans to Pay for service-related Injuries

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  • C Christian Graus

    I do love the overuse of the word 'hero' in the USA. I guess it's part of a culture of warfare. Having said that, if what you say is true, that totally blows. I'd be amazed he'd try it, it would surely be the end of his re-election chances, and the beginning of some hard work for his security team. Good idea - annoy all the people who know how to shoot a gun. That's not the only reason, if someone offers to risk their life for their country, their country owes them. It sure as hell owes them medical treatment if injured.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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    Christian Graus wrote:

    Good idea - annoy all the people who know how to shoot a gun.

    Maybe now you understand why it's not the army I figger I need a shotgun for. ;)

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    • M Mike Gaskey

      Christian Graus wrote:

      he doesn't appear to be that dumb....

      hands trembling, hovering over keyboard ready to ...

      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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      LOL - by dumb, I mean politically dumb. I mean unable to read the mood of the people.

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        President Plans To Charge Wounded Heroes For Treatment[^] As a veteran, I'm appalled and downright PISSED OFF that the communist bastard voted into office would even consider trying something like this.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        I thought you guys were against public health care?

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          led mike wrote:

          Aren't you one of the scoffers of conspiracy theory's regarding the Warren Commission and the magic bullet?

          no, not at all. point in fact, I lived in Dallas when JFK was murdered and have never believed that we've been told the truth.

          led mike wrote:

          forgot that your sh*t is stuff.

          you going for an Ilion impersonation award?

          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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          Christian Graus
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          My family visited the grassy knoll while in Dallas ( I'd been before ). It was interesting. I'm not sure what I believe anymore, I feel like I'm too far removed from the event to trust the sources that have a vested interest in making me believe it was more than Oswald. I was at a family BBQ the other day where people were talking about how there was a conspiracy, amazing how after all this time, people still are that interested. I do suspect that you're right, I just feel it's hard to judge, especially when there's a whole industry surrounding the event ( we were sold a newspaper for $8 to tell us the 'truth' about what happened, when standing on the knoll )

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            I thought you guys were against public health care?

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            Christian Graus
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            *grin* To be fair, they are for employer funded health care, and the government was the soldiers employer.

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            • C Chris Austin

              I didn't see the ironic icon Ed. :)

              Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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              I didn't think it was possible in "The Back Room". Or is it only ratings that are disabled? :) Irony was, of course, intended. I'm a vet and I think line-of-duty injuries should be fully covered by VA for as long as it takes to cure or for life if need be.

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              • C Christian Graus

                *grin* To be fair, they are for employer funded health care, and the government was the soldiers employer.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                To be fair, they are for employer funded health care, and the government was the soldiers employer.

                So if the government paid for private health care they'd get their choice of service provider rather than dealing with the wait for a VA hospital which I understand can be very long (much like the waiting lists for public health care here) and they'd be putting money into the free market.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  President Plans To Charge Wounded Heroes For Treatment[^] As a veteran, I'm appalled and downright PISSED OFF that the communist bastard voted into office would even consider trying something like this.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  I don't understand how health insurance works in the US generally - but he isn't saying (according to the article_) that he wants the ex-servicepeople to pay, but for insurance companies to pay. Who pays for the premiums, for any excess? Of course, if $504m can be saved by this change, either it is being administered very badly, fraudulently, or he is expecting servicemen to cough up the $504m - which, one would think, would be no only politicl suicide, but suicide for so smalla (comparitive) saving.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Rob Graham wrote:

                    it is a mute point,

                    I hate to be the spelling police, but this one really gets me. It's a moot point. It's not that the point can't talk, it's that it has 'no legal significance'.

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                    Indeed. it is moot.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      My family visited the grassy knoll while in Dallas ( I'd been before ). It was interesting. I'm not sure what I believe anymore, I feel like I'm too far removed from the event to trust the sources that have a vested interest in making me believe it was more than Oswald. I was at a family BBQ the other day where people were talking about how there was a conspiracy, amazing how after all this time, people still are that interested. I do suspect that you're right, I just feel it's hard to judge, especially when there's a whole industry surrounding the event ( we were sold a newspaper for $8 to tell us the 'truth' about what happened, when standing on the knoll )

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I'm not sure what I believe anymore

                      Obviously I've visited the site on more than one occasion, watched the films (commercial and the film that recorded the actual event) and the one thing I'm certain of is that we've been shielded from some of the actual facts or there's more that hasn't been discovered.

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      amazing how after all this time, people still are that interested

                      JFK was / is iconic. he may have ultimately been either a giant or a failure but with a life cut short it is all speculation and I think it is that speculation that keeps interest alive. to put it into a more current context, JFK was my generation's Obama.

                      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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