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  • L Lost User

    Chris Maunder wrote:

    Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

    I've compared the iMac to the Dell and HP all-in-ones and have found the Apple to be the better value. I've compared the new MacBook's to Sony, Dell, HP and Toshiba and when you compare processors, FSB speed, memory, display quality, graphics speed and build quality the Macs compare pretty darn well. MacBook Pro's are a bit pricey compared to the competition but if you REALLY compare identical features (which is actually very difficult) it's not as bad as it looks initially.

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    Stuart Dootson
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    I was quite shocked at the Dell Adamo[^] pricing - makes the Macbook Air seem almost reasonably priced...

    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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    • D Dan Neely

      No, the entire upper chassis of the mouse is a single giant button.

      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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      Stuart Dootson
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      That was true on Mac mice around 4-5 years ago, IIRC. The current 'Mighty Mouse' (dear God, did I just type that) has two 'buttony' areas.

      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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      • S Stuart Dootson

        I was quite shocked at the Dell Adamo[^] pricing - makes the Macbook Air seem almost reasonably priced...

        Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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        Lost User
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        Yeah they both are (IMHO) outrageously priced.

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        • H Hans Dietrich

          It's clear from your post that you don't hate Microsoft enough to want to swallow all the Mac shortcomings. Ask Christian for some tips.

          Best wishes, Hans


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          Chris Maunder
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          I'm non-denominational in my ranting. I do, however, feel I've been remiss in not including Ubuntu. I do apologise to the Ubuntu community for my oversight.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          • S Stuart Dootson

            That was true on Mac mice around 4-5 years ago, IIRC. The current 'Mighty Mouse' (dear God, did I just type that) has two 'buttony' areas.

            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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            Henry Minute
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            Stuart Dootson wrote:

            has two 'buttony' areas

            Mmmmmmmmrrrrrrgh, buttony!

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            • T ToddHileHoffer

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

              The OP hasn't spent any money yet. He is using Linux.

              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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              rastaVnuce
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              So.. any money would be more money :)

              To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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              • P Paul Watson

                Actually, they have no buttons now.

                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                Lost User
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                Why is Apple so opposed to buttons on mice.. what's wrong with them? I like my mice-buttons :)

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                • L Lost User

                  Why is Apple so opposed to buttons on mice.. what's wrong with them? I like my mice-buttons :)

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                  Paul Watson
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                  Simplicity. Aesthetics. Less moving parts. Higher abstraction for future user interface ideas (the trackpad is becoming a multi-touch gesture pad.) Less cracks for food to get wedged in.

                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Researcher cracks Mac in 10 seconds at PWN2OWN, wins $5K[^] But aside from that (and the Win7 crack that article mentions) you need to work out who will be using the machine and why. I have a Mac and it's the last one I'm ever getting. Others find it far more intuitive than Windows but personally I find it infuriating: It uses the 'it's so obvious we don't need to provide help' system of providing help. And sometimes it really isn't obvious. And the docking bar always getting in the way of trying to resize a window because you can only resize from the bottom right hand corner thing kills me. But iPhoto, iDvd etc work great (though Picasso from Google is pretty damn good too) and Macs can run Windows, so you get a nice looking laptop (with the odd keyboard) to run your Windows apps and have a test bed for when testing against Mac. The thing that kills me though is the cost of the things. Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

                    The best bang for the buck crowd isn't their target market. Apple is a cult, and always has been. Once you've become a religious convert and an Apple True Believer, separating you from your money is easy.

                    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                      Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

                      The best bang for the buck crowd isn't their target market. Apple is a cult, and always has been. Once you've become a religious convert and an Apple True Believer, separating you from your money is easy.

                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                      Hans Dietrich
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                      Ah! Another irrational belief system!

                      Best wishes, Hans


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                      • R rastaVnuce

                        Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

                        To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                        MarcelloTurnbull
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                        The hardware's more expensive, but the software's cheaper e.g. OSX, Office. My brother has got a Canon cam with USB port. To synchronize it with a Windows client, one has to install a software from Canon. Nevertheless, Mac clients don't need anything, but iPhoto. Cheers Marcello Turnbull

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                        • R rastaVnuce

                          Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

                          To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                          Joe Woodbury
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                          I've uses Macs on and off since they first came out and my dislike for them grows with every use. Beyond all the other issues, I just don't like the UI model they use. All my kids have had to use Macs at school at one time or another and they all despise them rather vocally. One of their complaints lines up with mine: the menu bar always being at the top of the screen.

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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