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Upgrading to XP64 from XP32

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  • M Member 96

    Upgrade? More like downgrade in my experience but whatever makes you happy. :)


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    Really? It hasn't given me much trouble, some installers have to be hacked a little (such as Live Mail..) and shell extensions are usually only installed for the 32bit Explorer which makes them pretty much useless, that's been all.. 16bit programs don't really exist anymore anyway :) It makes CPU bound .NET program about 30% faster if Paint.NET is any indication, which is a nice bonus..

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      Really? It hasn't given me much trouble, some installers have to be hacked a little (such as Live Mail..) and shell extensions are usually only installed for the 32bit Explorer which makes them pretty much useless, that's been all.. 16bit programs don't really exist anymore anyway :) It makes CPU bound .NET program about 30% faster if Paint.NET is any indication, which is a nice bonus..

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      On it's own, for purpose built systems that absolutely need to run some 64 bit software (and there are really only handful of apps that specialized at this point) it's perfect. Under any other circumstances it's not a good idea at all.


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      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

        Its the SVN "server" I just want to be able to utilize all 4 GB of RAM in addition to the second core :shrug: Its not meant to be the workhorse.

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

        Its not meant to be the workhorse.

        In my personal experience, unless you have a highly specialized 64bit app that you absolutely have to run (the kind that there are only a handful of in the world) there are just no benefits to it at all and many many down sides such as hyper expensive anti virus software, shell issues with every common app you're used to running, many apps despite being advertised as compatible running into glitches here and there and in the end most of the stuff you want to run turns out to not be truly 64bit anyway, just designed to be compatible with WOW as 32 bit emulated apps. Squeezing a few hundred kb of extra ram simply isn't worth it.


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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

          Its not meant to be the workhorse.

          In my personal experience, unless you have a highly specialized 64bit app that you absolutely have to run (the kind that there are only a handful of in the world) there are just no benefits to it at all and many many down sides such as hyper expensive anti virus software, shell issues with every common app you're used to running, many apps despite being advertised as compatible running into glitches here and there and in the end most of the stuff you want to run turns out to not be truly 64bit anyway, just designed to be compatible with WOW as 32 bit emulated apps. Squeezing a few hundred kb of extra ram simply isn't worth it.


          "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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          AVG free works just fine on XP x64 pro..

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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            Its the SVN "server" I just want to be able to utilize all 4 GB of RAM in addition to the second core :shrug: Its not meant to be the workhorse.

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            XP32 won't give you 4GB of RAM; it will be between 3.25 and 3.5 GB. (I always thought it was 3.5GB, but a colleague just got a new system and it cut him off at 3.25 for 32-bit.)

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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              AVG free works just fine on XP x64 pro..

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              News to me, I made all the rounds of all the virus scanners a couple of months ago and no one had anything for x64 that wasn't an arm and a leg, I'll have to check again. Cheers!


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              • M Member 96

                News to me, I made all the rounds of all the virus scanners a couple of months ago and no one had anything for x64 that wasn't an arm and a leg, I'll have to check again. Cheers!


                "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                I didn't see it claiming to be x64, but it is anyway. Only small parts of it run in 64bit mode though (but that doesn't really matter, as long as it works..)

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  Its not meant to be the workhorse.

                  In my personal experience, unless you have a highly specialized 64bit app that you absolutely have to run (the kind that there are only a handful of in the world) there are just no benefits to it at all and many many down sides such as hyper expensive anti virus software, shell issues with every common app you're used to running, many apps despite being advertised as compatible running into glitches here and there and in the end most of the stuff you want to run turns out to not be truly 64bit anyway, just designed to be compatible with WOW as 32 bit emulated apps. Squeezing a few hundred kb of extra ram simply isn't worth it.


                  "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                  Dan Neely
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                  Is XP64 really that bad? Running Vista64 I've encountered exactly one app that wouldn't work (a drag reordering task bar addin, thankfully a CPian has written a replacement.[^]) and am using avast free without issue.

                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                  • M Member 96

                    News to me, I made all the rounds of all the virus scanners a couple of months ago and no one had anything for x64 that wasn't an arm and a leg, I'll have to check again. Cheers!


                    "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Are you sure you weren't looking at 64bit server versions?

                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                    • J Joe Woodbury

                      XP32 won't give you 4GB of RAM; it will be between 3.25 and 3.5 GB. (I always thought it was 3.5GB, but a colleague just got a new system and it cut him off at 3.25 for 32-bit.)

                      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      Joe Woodbury wrote:

                      XP32 won't give you 4GB of RAM; it will be between 3.25 and 3.5 GB. (I always thought it was 3.5GB, but a colleague just got a new system and it cut him off at 3.25 for 32-bit.)

                      Or less. It depends how much is blocked out for DMA. My laptop only has 3GB available (most of what the BIOS snags is unused :mad:), and a desktop with high end GPUs can end up with only 2 and change.

                      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                        Is XP64 really that bad? Running Vista64 I've encountered exactly one app that wouldn't work (a drag reordering task bar addin, thankfully a CPian has written a replacement.[^]) and am using avast free without issue.

                        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                        It's entirely useless unless you have one of a handful of very specific needs and want to dedicate an entire OS to that task. I want to reach out and slap people running 64 because they haven't thought it out and they have no good reason to and it just causes headache all around.


                        "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                        • D Dan Neely

                          Are you sure you weren't looking at 64bit server versions?

                          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                          Maybe, however I just looked at it again and they still make no mention at all of 64bit for their free version, all I found was blog and message board posts saying it was now compatible.


                          "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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