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  • G Garth J Lancaster

    like your style - thats what Im suggesting in my post - go big !! (it means it wont be a free ride, but ultimately its still/more rewarding that way) hows the worm court ? dont think I saw the end of the blow-by-blow reporter on the spot posting 'g'

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    It works! These big cats want the pro bono publico publicity! They crave it! I mean, one of the funniest I've seen was here a few years back where, and I kid you not, Burger King, KFC and Subway pledged about 10,000 JOD (near 14,000 USD) to setup an annual "against obesity" run :doh: I laughed so hard when I saw the first 2 names :laugh: About the worm court, nothing really. Pure garbage. The lawyer, after nearly two years has decided that this farce has gone on long enough and is filing a collusion investigation. Check it out here: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/View.aspx?fid=1159&msg=2977499[^]

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      They spend 2.5 weeks doing community work, helping to build classrooms + furniture, teaching assistance, creating sporting facilities and other worthwhile things. 1 week doing coastal reef conservation and wildlife projects a few days R&R at the end. We are constructing lists of companies to write to, big sports companies etc so we'll do a huge mailshot over the weekend.

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      sounds neat - include Virgin & Oxfam for example as well, on the mail-list 'g'

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      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

        Bake sales were a boon when I were a little lad and we had to raise cash for the school something or other. When I was at university, it became more creative such as corporate sponsorships (I kid you not, what's a $1,000 for a safeway? and they get publicity like mad) and the local radio stations can have a blast. People would be more than happy to help out if approached in a proper manner. I just want to clarify something, that's 3370 GBP per child? for 20-30 children? If yes, consider talking to the bigger corps like McDonalds and them.

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        Yes - 3370 per child So if 30 go, the school area population will be pestered for 100K - fantastic!

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          Yes - 3370 per child So if 30 go, the school area population will be pestered for 100K - fantastic!

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          You ought to also consider robbing a bank. I know full well that I did not click on the joke button.

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            I guess your daughter, like mine, is in year 10? Mine was offered this trip, but to Peru in her case. Maybe not the same company running it, but the sum you mention sounds familiar. I couldn't believe that a school who sent out a letter saying that they would frown on any child even taking time off to be ill at any point in the two GCSE years was then condoning a venture that was clearly going to take such a huge amount of time and effort. I had to conclude that it's really intended for parents who can just give their kids the money, but they have dress it up as something that's available to all. If they don't manage to raise the whole amount, what happens? Either they keep the money they've raised (which is stealing), give it all back (which is impossible), or you shell out (which may be possible for you or me, if we had no choice, but what about low-income parents?). I felt bad about saying it, but in the end I had to say, yeah, it'd be a fantastic experience that would stay with you for ever, but crap GCSE results will stay with you forever, too. She took the point, and I promised to pay her uni tuition fees. Sorry - that's not the kind of input you were after, is it!?

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            Baconbutty
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            Yup Yr 10 It only reflects the thinking that we had when it was announced, so it's good to hear that someone else has the same thoughts as we did. There's no way we can give her the cash for it so it REALLY is down to her/group to do it. Of course, according to the organisers there's "no problem raising the cash, we've had lots of trips like this where the money has been raised". Maybe that was before the financial system and retailing went down the plughole. Thanks for putting your thoughts down, much appreciated.

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            • B Baconbutty

              Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

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              pseudonym67
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              Baconbutty wrote:

              but NOT physical pain

              Pity that. A few hours with Boy George and you'd have been sorted. ;P

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                Baconbutty wrote:

                but NOT physical pain

                Pity that. A few hours with Boy George and you'd have been sorted. ;P

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                Is he allowed visitors now, then?

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                  Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

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                  My son's senior class goes to Italy every year for their class trip and their "art" block. I'm not particularly fond of such an extravagent excursion. Living three hours away from New York City, there's a lot of good art at the various museums there, and a lot cheaper. Nevertheless, they start fundraising starting in 9th grade. Pizza sales, bake sales, auctions, hosting dinners, etc. The thing I don't really like about most of those activities is that they all hit up the parents in the community, so I'm paying anyways. And of course, the parents still have to cough up about $2000. They started adding $500 a year to the tuition just for the senior trip. Non-refundable, if you're kid leaves the school before his/her senior year. The trip is next month, and what really pisses me off is this email (keep in mind the school has been doing this trip for many years, so they should have a very good idea of expenses): had a mtg. with the accountant( Irene) in the Finance office who would like to keep your general tuition accounts separate from your Italy account. She has asked me to collect the trip money from you directly. Two families have already paid the entire amount they pledged for the trip. I assume that some of you might like to break up the amount. That is of course possible. I would like to start receiving your payment as soon as you can make it. At this point it is still difficult for me to say whether there are any surplusses at all. I actually expect to only have that information by the time we get back and after all the accounts have been reconciled. A lot depends on the Euro, how much money we will ACTUALLY spend on meals and any unforeseen expenses. We will know all of this exactly by the middle of May. Early enough to see if we would like to initiate a refund, or whatever else you as a class will feel inclined to do with the money. That will probably be a class parent/email kind of conversation. We will be in touch about this. Sounds like the school is trying to scam us. I can understand not knowing the exact expenses, but what about the flip side: here's the funds available, and we're going to work within that budget! Marc

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                  • B Baconbutty

                    Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

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                    Do what her friend's parents are doing. prove her that you are the greatest papa.

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                    • G Garth J Lancaster

                      sounds neat - include Virgin & Oxfam for example as well, on the mail-list 'g'

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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                      I thought virgin was doing quite badly because of the economy?

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                      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                        You ought to also consider robbing a bank. I know full well that I did not click on the joke button.

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                        Baconbutty
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                        Not a bad idea although the end of "The Italian Job" puts me off somewhat.

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                          My son's senior class goes to Italy every year for their class trip and their "art" block. I'm not particularly fond of such an extravagent excursion. Living three hours away from New York City, there's a lot of good art at the various museums there, and a lot cheaper. Nevertheless, they start fundraising starting in 9th grade. Pizza sales, bake sales, auctions, hosting dinners, etc. The thing I don't really like about most of those activities is that they all hit up the parents in the community, so I'm paying anyways. And of course, the parents still have to cough up about $2000. They started adding $500 a year to the tuition just for the senior trip. Non-refundable, if you're kid leaves the school before his/her senior year. The trip is next month, and what really pisses me off is this email (keep in mind the school has been doing this trip for many years, so they should have a very good idea of expenses): had a mtg. with the accountant( Irene) in the Finance office who would like to keep your general tuition accounts separate from your Italy account. She has asked me to collect the trip money from you directly. Two families have already paid the entire amount they pledged for the trip. I assume that some of you might like to break up the amount. That is of course possible. I would like to start receiving your payment as soon as you can make it. At this point it is still difficult for me to say whether there are any surplusses at all. I actually expect to only have that information by the time we get back and after all the accounts have been reconciled. A lot depends on the Euro, how much money we will ACTUALLY spend on meals and any unforeseen expenses. We will know all of this exactly by the middle of May. Early enough to see if we would like to initiate a refund, or whatever else you as a class will feel inclined to do with the money. That will probably be a class parent/email kind of conversation. We will be in touch about this. Sounds like the school is trying to scam us. I can understand not knowing the exact expenses, but what about the flip side: here's the funds available, and we're going to work within that budget! Marc

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                          Baconbutty
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                          Top news for us is that, on top of the trip cost, we also have to pay for a Visa to Kenya, the medical jabs, malaria tablets and also give the kids some spending money. Spending money so that they can go and have a meal out with their friends when they are near larger habitation. I wonder if I'll get some cash back for the uneaten meals not taken in camp?

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                            Top news for us is that, on top of the trip cost, we also have to pay for a Visa to Kenya, the medical jabs, malaria tablets and also give the kids some spending money. Spending money so that they can go and have a meal out with their friends when they are near larger habitation. I wonder if I'll get some cash back for the uneaten meals not taken in camp?

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            Baconbutty wrote:

                            give the kids some spending money.

                            10 Pounds ought to be enough :) Or is that Zimbabwe I'm thinking of?

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                              Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

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                              How about some sort of corporate sponsorship? Any local companies that could do with some good press?

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                                Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

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                                Apply for some funding from the lottery commission. No harm trying.

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                                  My son's senior class goes to Italy every year for their class trip and their "art" block. I'm not particularly fond of such an extravagent excursion. Living three hours away from New York City, there's a lot of good art at the various museums there, and a lot cheaper. Nevertheless, they start fundraising starting in 9th grade. Pizza sales, bake sales, auctions, hosting dinners, etc. The thing I don't really like about most of those activities is that they all hit up the parents in the community, so I'm paying anyways. And of course, the parents still have to cough up about $2000. They started adding $500 a year to the tuition just for the senior trip. Non-refundable, if you're kid leaves the school before his/her senior year. The trip is next month, and what really pisses me off is this email (keep in mind the school has been doing this trip for many years, so they should have a very good idea of expenses): had a mtg. with the accountant( Irene) in the Finance office who would like to keep your general tuition accounts separate from your Italy account. She has asked me to collect the trip money from you directly. Two families have already paid the entire amount they pledged for the trip. I assume that some of you might like to break up the amount. That is of course possible. I would like to start receiving your payment as soon as you can make it. At this point it is still difficult for me to say whether there are any surplusses at all. I actually expect to only have that information by the time we get back and after all the accounts have been reconciled. A lot depends on the Euro, how much money we will ACTUALLY spend on meals and any unforeseen expenses. We will know all of this exactly by the middle of May. Early enough to see if we would like to initiate a refund, or whatever else you as a class will feel inclined to do with the money. That will probably be a class parent/email kind of conversation. We will be in touch about this. Sounds like the school is trying to scam us. I can understand not knowing the exact expenses, but what about the flip side: here's the funds available, and we're going to work within that budget! Marc

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                                  :wtf: So your paying $500 a year for 1 trip, so if your kid is in school for 4 years (I assume he/she is) isn't the trip payed for already then? So why do they need you to pay even more in a separate account? Or am I missing something (has been know to happen :) ) Also depending on the time they spend in Italy and at what hotel $2000 should be more than enough I think (plain tickets +/- $700, hotel for a week +/- $600, leaves $700 for meals and other stuff). Don't really understand why they would go to Italy for art and not to Paris (there are more art museums there then anywhere else), or New York like you said.

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                                    :wtf: So your paying $500 a year for 1 trip, so if your kid is in school for 4 years (I assume he/she is) isn't the trip payed for already then? So why do they need you to pay even more in a separate account? Or am I missing something (has been know to happen :) ) Also depending on the time they spend in Italy and at what hotel $2000 should be more than enough I think (plain tickets +/- $700, hotel for a week +/- $600, leaves $700 for meals and other stuff). Don't really understand why they would go to Italy for art and not to Paris (there are more art museums there then anywhere else), or New York like you said.

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                                    Tom Deketelaere wrote:

                                    Or am I missing something

                                    No, you're not. I was told three years ago, when they started doing this, that the money would be held in a separate account! Grrr. And indeed, why incur these expenses when there are better and cheaper places to go. When I ask that question, you know what the answer is? Tradition. X| Marc

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                                      Tom Deketelaere wrote:

                                      Or am I missing something

                                      No, you're not. I was told three years ago, when they started doing this, that the money would be held in a separate account! Grrr. And indeed, why incur these expenses when there are better and cheaper places to go. When I ask that question, you know what the answer is? Tradition. X| Marc

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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      Tradition.

                                      Tell them it's your tradition not to give money to scammers, or to throw it away on pointless things :) Sounds like they have some sort of agreement with the hotel in Italy or something, o wait that's just my paranoid side sticking its head up :)

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                                        Bake sales were a boon when I were a little lad and we had to raise cash for the school something or other. When I was at university, it became more creative such as corporate sponsorships (I kid you not, what's a $1,000 for a safeway? and they get publicity like mad) and the local radio stations can have a blast. People would be more than happy to help out if approached in a proper manner. I just want to clarify something, that's 3370 GBP per child? for 20-30 children? If yes, consider talking to the bigger corps like McDonalds and them.

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                                        Bake sale? But were the cakes baked in an industrial kitchen? Washdown facilities? Knives that never touch meat? And what about nuts? (of either meaning...) Legal insurance...? You hear about plenty of these sorts of things being cancelled as it would cost more to be able to sell the cakes than you'd raise. Sad... :sigh: Iain.

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                                          Bake sale? But were the cakes baked in an industrial kitchen? Washdown facilities? Knives that never touch meat? And what about nuts? (of either meaning...) Legal insurance...? You hear about plenty of these sorts of things being cancelled as it would cost more to be able to sell the cakes than you'd raise. Sad... :sigh: Iain.

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                                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                          See, the world was a much simpler place 15 years ago :)

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                                          In the process of moving to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), give me a job!

                                          That is so cool man. Honestly. You have my respect :thumbsup: I've done lots in the name of love and I decided to stay in the Middle East for another 5 years for her :)

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