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  • M Marc Clifton

    My son's senior class goes to Italy every year for their class trip and their "art" block. I'm not particularly fond of such an extravagent excursion. Living three hours away from New York City, there's a lot of good art at the various museums there, and a lot cheaper. Nevertheless, they start fundraising starting in 9th grade. Pizza sales, bake sales, auctions, hosting dinners, etc. The thing I don't really like about most of those activities is that they all hit up the parents in the community, so I'm paying anyways. And of course, the parents still have to cough up about $2000. They started adding $500 a year to the tuition just for the senior trip. Non-refundable, if you're kid leaves the school before his/her senior year. The trip is next month, and what really pisses me off is this email (keep in mind the school has been doing this trip for many years, so they should have a very good idea of expenses): had a mtg. with the accountant( Irene) in the Finance office who would like to keep your general tuition accounts separate from your Italy account. She has asked me to collect the trip money from you directly. Two families have already paid the entire amount they pledged for the trip. I assume that some of you might like to break up the amount. That is of course possible. I would like to start receiving your payment as soon as you can make it. At this point it is still difficult for me to say whether there are any surplusses at all. I actually expect to only have that information by the time we get back and after all the accounts have been reconciled. A lot depends on the Euro, how much money we will ACTUALLY spend on meals and any unforeseen expenses. We will know all of this exactly by the middle of May. Early enough to see if we would like to initiate a refund, or whatever else you as a class will feel inclined to do with the money. That will probably be a class parent/email kind of conversation. We will be in touch about this. Sounds like the school is trying to scam us. I can understand not knowing the exact expenses, but what about the flip side: here's the funds available, and we're going to work within that budget! Marc

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    Baconbutty
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    Top news for us is that, on top of the trip cost, we also have to pay for a Visa to Kenya, the medical jabs, malaria tablets and also give the kids some spending money. Spending money so that they can go and have a meal out with their friends when they are near larger habitation. I wonder if I'll get some cash back for the uneaten meals not taken in camp?

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      Top news for us is that, on top of the trip cost, we also have to pay for a Visa to Kenya, the medical jabs, malaria tablets and also give the kids some spending money. Spending money so that they can go and have a meal out with their friends when they are near larger habitation. I wonder if I'll get some cash back for the uneaten meals not taken in camp?

      Joined Folding@Home 12 March 2009. Laptop probably not up to it but it's chugging away.

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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      Baconbutty wrote:

      give the kids some spending money.

      10 Pounds ought to be enough :) Or is that Zimbabwe I'm thinking of?

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      • B Baconbutty

        Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

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        benjymous
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        How about some sort of corporate sponsorship? Any local companies that could do with some good press?

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        • B Baconbutty

          Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

          Joined Folding@Home 12 March 2009. Laptop probably not up to it but it's chugging away.

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          DaveAuld
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          Apply for some funding from the lottery commission. No harm trying.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            My son's senior class goes to Italy every year for their class trip and their "art" block. I'm not particularly fond of such an extravagent excursion. Living three hours away from New York City, there's a lot of good art at the various museums there, and a lot cheaper. Nevertheless, they start fundraising starting in 9th grade. Pizza sales, bake sales, auctions, hosting dinners, etc. The thing I don't really like about most of those activities is that they all hit up the parents in the community, so I'm paying anyways. And of course, the parents still have to cough up about $2000. They started adding $500 a year to the tuition just for the senior trip. Non-refundable, if you're kid leaves the school before his/her senior year. The trip is next month, and what really pisses me off is this email (keep in mind the school has been doing this trip for many years, so they should have a very good idea of expenses): had a mtg. with the accountant( Irene) in the Finance office who would like to keep your general tuition accounts separate from your Italy account. She has asked me to collect the trip money from you directly. Two families have already paid the entire amount they pledged for the trip. I assume that some of you might like to break up the amount. That is of course possible. I would like to start receiving your payment as soon as you can make it. At this point it is still difficult for me to say whether there are any surplusses at all. I actually expect to only have that information by the time we get back and after all the accounts have been reconciled. A lot depends on the Euro, how much money we will ACTUALLY spend on meals and any unforeseen expenses. We will know all of this exactly by the middle of May. Early enough to see if we would like to initiate a refund, or whatever else you as a class will feel inclined to do with the money. That will probably be a class parent/email kind of conversation. We will be in touch about this. Sounds like the school is trying to scam us. I can understand not knowing the exact expenses, but what about the flip side: here's the funds available, and we're going to work within that budget! Marc

            Will work for food. Interacx

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            Tom Deketelaere
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            :wtf: So your paying $500 a year for 1 trip, so if your kid is in school for 4 years (I assume he/she is) isn't the trip payed for already then? So why do they need you to pay even more in a separate account? Or am I missing something (has been know to happen :) ) Also depending on the time they spend in Italy and at what hotel $2000 should be more than enough I think (plain tickets +/- $700, hotel for a week +/- $600, leaves $700 for meals and other stuff). Don't really understand why they would go to Italy for art and not to Paris (there are more art museums there then anywhere else), or New York like you said.

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              :wtf: So your paying $500 a year for 1 trip, so if your kid is in school for 4 years (I assume he/she is) isn't the trip payed for already then? So why do they need you to pay even more in a separate account? Or am I missing something (has been know to happen :) ) Also depending on the time they spend in Italy and at what hotel $2000 should be more than enough I think (plain tickets +/- $700, hotel for a week +/- $600, leaves $700 for meals and other stuff). Don't really understand why they would go to Italy for art and not to Paris (there are more art museums there then anywhere else), or New York like you said.

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              Marc Clifton
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              Tom Deketelaere wrote:

              Or am I missing something

              No, you're not. I was told three years ago, when they started doing this, that the money would be held in a separate account! Grrr. And indeed, why incur these expenses when there are better and cheaper places to go. When I ask that question, you know what the answer is? Tradition. X| Marc

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Tom Deketelaere wrote:

                Or am I missing something

                No, you're not. I was told three years ago, when they started doing this, that the money would be held in a separate account! Grrr. And indeed, why incur these expenses when there are better and cheaper places to go. When I ask that question, you know what the answer is? Tradition. X| Marc

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                Tom Deketelaere
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Tradition.

                Tell them it's your tradition not to give money to scammers, or to throw it away on pointless things :) Sounds like they have some sort of agreement with the hotel in Italy or something, o wait that's just my paranoid side sticking its head up :)

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                • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                  Bake sales were a boon when I were a little lad and we had to raise cash for the school something or other. When I was at university, it became more creative such as corporate sponsorships (I kid you not, what's a $1,000 for a safeway? and they get publicity like mad) and the local radio stations can have a blast. People would be more than happy to help out if approached in a proper manner. I just want to clarify something, that's 3370 GBP per child? for 20-30 children? If yes, consider talking to the bigger corps like McDonalds and them.

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                  Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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                  Bake sale? But were the cakes baked in an industrial kitchen? Washdown facilities? Knives that never touch meat? And what about nuts? (of either meaning...) Legal insurance...? You hear about plenty of these sorts of things being cancelled as it would cost more to be able to sell the cakes than you'd raise. Sad... :sigh: Iain.

                  In the process of moving to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), give me a job!

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                    Bake sale? But were the cakes baked in an industrial kitchen? Washdown facilities? Knives that never touch meat? And what about nuts? (of either meaning...) Legal insurance...? You hear about plenty of these sorts of things being cancelled as it would cost more to be able to sell the cakes than you'd raise. Sad... :sigh: Iain.

                    In the process of moving to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), give me a job!

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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                    See, the world was a much simpler place 15 years ago :)

                    Iain Clarke wrote:

                    In the process of moving to Sweden for love (awwww). If you're in Scandinavia and want an MVP on the payroll (or happy with a remote worker), give me a job!

                    That is so cool man. Honestly. You have my respect :thumbsup: I've done lots in the name of love and I decided to stay in the Middle East for another 5 years for her :)

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                    • B Baconbutty

                      Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

                      Joined Folding@Home 12 March 2009. Laptop probably not up to it but it's chugging away.

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                      Tim Carmichael
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                      The youth at our church have trips scheduled about twice a year they need to do fundraising for. Outside of bake sales, car washes, etc. they have used the following: luncheons with home cooking; donations accepted; all can eat even if they don't have any many; have the kids act as servers this weekend is a yard sale of donated items; we donated a hutch, side tables, old computer monitor, etc. 'rent a youth'; families hire the kids for a day to do yard work, painting, etc; if the kids are two young, the parents can subsitute for them Hope this helps... Tim

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                      • B Baconbutty

                        Well the lend me your ears bit anyway :) My daughter is trying to raise funds to go on a school expedition to Kenya in summer 2010. We need to raise half the cash before 1 Sept 2009 with the rest before 1 May 2010 (total cost £3370 - ouch). Has anyone else in here been involved in similar undertakings? To be honest I think they have underestimated how hard it is going to be to raise that amount of cash for about 20-30 kids in a relatively small area (we are in the northern half of York). £10 a day , every day, for a year, is going to be damn hard work by everyone. I have volunteered to dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender" if they do a Parent's Stars in their Eyes type show but we are looking for other more unusual ideas for fundraising that might attract people to part with their wonga. Please help with ideas - I don't want to spend every weekend tarting myself about, washing cars, packing bags in Tesco and getting a sore behind from sponsored cycling marathons. oh - and being moderately hirsute (apart from the head) I am NOT, that's NOT, getting legs waxed etc. I can take humiliation in front of her classmates and their parents, but NOT physical pain. Cheers

                        Joined Folding@Home 12 March 2009. Laptop probably not up to it but it's chugging away.

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                        bryce
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                        easy - tell them that UNLESS they pay you will

                        Baconbutty wrote:

                        dress up as Shirley Bassey and sing "Big Spender"

                        ;) Bryce

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