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Colin^Davies wrote: Einmal Is that right ? Es war einmal...[^] Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi
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Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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Yeah, I understand the problem, Colin. What I'm trying to say is this: I have no idea, I never did have any idea, I hate dealing with things like this, so personally I try to avoid the entire situation. Sorry, not much help and I probably should have just kept my mouth shut...... .... I'll do that now, right? ;) Paul
Paul Riley wrote: I probably should have just kept my mouth shut No,, what makes this place interesting is the differences of opinions that facilitate the exchange of thoughts. If everyone kept there mouth shut, when they didn't know much about a topic there would be hardly any posts at all. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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I appreciate what you are saying. But what about when ajob is advertised at a place, where you wish to work. (for whatever reason) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Actually, you know what? I do have some advice for you after all. It's simple enough: Don't think too much. This job that you're going for, they will get a lot of applicants (which is the reason most computer employers use recruitment agencies :)). But they won't look much at your opening letter. My wife is in personel, I know how this works. What they'll do is this: Take the top handful of applicants, look through the CVs for the qualifications and experience they want. They'll be looking for a set number of interviews. If they find that many then they'll simply discard the rest. They will not look through for the people with the experience and then find the ones with the most interesting opening lines. That takes too long. They may discard you if they really don't like your letter ("Give me a friggin' job or I'll come down there and burn the place down") but that's all. I have one more piece of advice for people looking for jobs: Be yourself at all times I know this sounds like the kind of crap people come up with all the time ("Be yourself, people will love you") but that's not what I'm saying. My point is that every company is looking for something different. If you're not yourself you may get turned down for a job where you would have been perfect or you may find yourself accepted for a job you'll hate. Paul
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Can anyone give me a good opening line for a job application letter instead of the same boring stuff everyone else uses. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Colin^Davies wrote: Can anyone give me a good opening line for a job application letter instead of the same boring stuff everyone else uses What about a "I'm bored with this VMTU thing and started to look for a job..." :) Concussus surgo. When struck I rise.
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Can anyone give me a good opening line for a job application letter instead of the same boring stuff everyone else uses. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Well, I don't concentrate much on the letter. When I was doing the hiring, they just went in the trash anyway. All I really had time for was the resumes, and not enough time to sort through all the drivel at that. So, personally, I concentrate on making my resume something that catches their attention. That would explain the Far Side cartoon at the bottom of my resume (really). Unprofessional, you say? Perhaps. But ask them if they notice my resume. Of course, you have to tailor it to your personal style. A cartoon works for me, because I'm a, well, you guys know what I am. What could you put on your resume that would tell them who you are, in a manner that no one else has done? Get their attention first. Then make the sale. I also include a skill set summary as an attachment, because really, that's all we look for sometimes. "Yeah, yeah, you worked in a widget factory. Groovy. But how many years of VC++ and APIOTW do you have? That's what we need." Online, I also have a filtered version of my resume so that people can search for just the TLAs that they need. When was the last time you read an entire resume, word for word, when you had 100 of them on your desk? For what it's worth, here's some examples. http://www.showprogramming.com/resume.htm[^] http://www.showprogramming.com/skills.htm[^] http://www.showprogramming.com/ResumeFilter.htm[^] Anyway, hope this sparks an idea or two for you... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Can anyone give me a good opening line for a job application letter instead of the same boring stuff everyone else uses. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Maybe that's not formal enough?
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Can anyone give me a good opening line for a job application letter instead of the same boring stuff everyone else uses. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
"You may already have won!" [include picture of a smiling Ed McMahon] or "Act now, supplies are limited! There's only one of me and demand is skyrocketing! Order now and you'll receive not only a highly skilled programmer, but also this free set of 6 colored markers in a wonderfully convenient, personalized pocket protector! But wait, there's more..."
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Mike Nordell wrote: "Hi!" tends to work well for me. Hmmm, I was thinking of something to put in a formal letter. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
I am talking about a formal letter. I usually begin them with "Hi", and so far I've been hired to do more software than I'd like to think of. Tell them who you are (professionally). Tell them what you've done. Tell them what you know. End with telling them how your life is (if you feel the need). Then end it with: If you think this competence might benefit you, don't hesitate to mail me! (Always make sure to suggest it's something positive to get back to you! That is VITAL!) If you get a job due to my suggestions, I only want 5%. Hey, it's way lower than many head-hunting companies! :-> Just kidding. You get your job yourself (but you better prove your own competence) and keep your money. If we ever meet, and you got a job due to my ideas, you buy the dinner though. All of it. :-)
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Well, I don't concentrate much on the letter. When I was doing the hiring, they just went in the trash anyway. All I really had time for was the resumes, and not enough time to sort through all the drivel at that. So, personally, I concentrate on making my resume something that catches their attention. That would explain the Far Side cartoon at the bottom of my resume (really). Unprofessional, you say? Perhaps. But ask them if they notice my resume. Of course, you have to tailor it to your personal style. A cartoon works for me, because I'm a, well, you guys know what I am. What could you put on your resume that would tell them who you are, in a manner that no one else has done? Get their attention first. Then make the sale. I also include a skill set summary as an attachment, because really, that's all we look for sometimes. "Yeah, yeah, you worked in a widget factory. Groovy. But how many years of VC++ and APIOTW do you have? That's what we need." Online, I also have a filtered version of my resume so that people can search for just the TLAs that they need. When was the last time you read an entire resume, word for word, when you had 100 of them on your desk? For what it's worth, here's some examples. http://www.showprogramming.com/resume.htm[^] http://www.showprogramming.com/skills.htm[^] http://www.showprogramming.com/ResumeFilter.htm[^] Anyway, hope this sparks an idea or two for you... Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
I don't disagree with much you say. However when I was employing, I actually once, had all the CV's/resumees repacked back to the applicants and asked that if they wanted to apply they produced ones side on A4 paper. Not many complied which help cut down the pile. The covering Job Application letter I always had analyzed for a couple of factors. 1. Was it unique, 2. What errors did it contain. 3. Had they done any research into our business or products. 4. What skillsets do they mention strongly. If the Job Application letter didn't pass muster, the CV / Resumee would be sent back immediatly. {Right or wrong way to do it, It was the way I chose} Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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I don't disagree with much you say. However when I was employing, I actually once, had all the CV's/resumees repacked back to the applicants and asked that if they wanted to apply they produced ones side on A4 paper. Not many complied which help cut down the pile. The covering Job Application letter I always had analyzed for a couple of factors. 1. Was it unique, 2. What errors did it contain. 3. Had they done any research into our business or products. 4. What skillsets do they mention strongly. If the Job Application letter didn't pass muster, the CV / Resumee would be sent back immediatly. {Right or wrong way to do it, It was the way I chose} Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Colin^Davies wrote: {Right or wrong way to do it, It was the way I chose} When you're the one doing the hiring, you can't be wrong! Chris Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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I am talking about a formal letter. I usually begin them with "Hi", and so far I've been hired to do more software than I'd like to think of. Tell them who you are (professionally). Tell them what you've done. Tell them what you know. End with telling them how your life is (if you feel the need). Then end it with: If you think this competence might benefit you, don't hesitate to mail me! (Always make sure to suggest it's something positive to get back to you! That is VITAL!) If you get a job due to my suggestions, I only want 5%. Hey, it's way lower than many head-hunting companies! :-> Just kidding. You get your job yourself (but you better prove your own competence) and keep your money. If we ever meet, and you got a job due to my ideas, you buy the dinner though. All of it. :-)
Mike Nordell wrote: I am talking about a formal letter OH !! Mike Nordell wrote: If we ever meet, and you got a job due to my ideas, you buy the dinner though. All of it Ok If I use your approach, you are on :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.