Do you hate using Lotus Notes for email?
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You bet your ass. The following development teams are on my list of those to be first against the wall when the revolution comes: 1. Lotus Notes 2. InstallShield 3. Microsoft DDK group For the first two, I'll even pitch in and buy the ammunition.
Software Zen:
delete this;Fully agree with install shield; never used the other two. A bug chunk of the rational team's on my list. Of the tool's I've used ClearCase (source/document control) and ClearQuest (issue tracker) rate all the way up to "they work ok". ReqPro (requirements) and SoDA (document generation) are flakey, cumbersome, and the latter has issues with random windows/office updates breaking it. Functional tester was worse than the prior two. The main requirement for breaking (and requiring several hours of un/reinstall without using any other apps) was ignoring it for more than a week or so and letting it go into a sulk.
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Because I do. It is the most un-intuative piece of crap software that (I think) I've ever had to use. This subject may be a re-post, but I just need to get this off my chest: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGAGAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! X| X| X| X| If you're a fellow sufferer: http://www.ihatelotusnotes.com/[^]
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It has one of the most unintuitive UIs I've ever seen.
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As long as Stallman leads the charge, that's fine with me (he sounds like great cannon fodder).
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
As long as Stallman leads the charge, that's fine with me (he sounds like great cannon fodder).
Yes! Someone got the point!!! :laugh:
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You bet your ass. The following development teams are on my list of those to be first against the wall when the revolution comes: 1. Lotus Notes 2. InstallShield 3. Microsoft DDK group For the first two, I'll even pitch in and buy the ammunition.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
3. Microsoft DDK group
I know how you feel. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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Because I do. It is the most un-intuative piece of crap software that (I think) I've ever had to use. This subject may be a re-post, but I just need to get this off my chest: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGAGAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! X| X| X| X| If you're a fellow sufferer: http://www.ihatelotusnotes.com/[^]
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
Notes is the most ghastly piece of crap I have ever had to use. X|
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
3. Microsoft DDK group
I know how you feel. :)
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
The sad part is, I've never even written a driver, just a couple of driver installers. It is fucking impossible to determine how to install a driver from the DDK examples and documentation. You simply have to beat on it until either it gives up in disgust or you do.
Software Zen:
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The sad part is, I've never even written a driver, just a couple of driver installers. It is fucking impossible to determine how to install a driver from the DDK examples and documentation. You simply have to beat on it until either it gives up in disgust or you do.
Software Zen:
delete this;You ought to try the MFC Feature pack (VS 2008 Feature pack that adds new MFC classes). The classes are not good, the documentation is WORSE and it is just impossible if you'd go on to build something referring the documentation. All mostly for just showing off some fancy UI. I ended up using CodeJock UI library and when the clients have some really weird requirements, I had to write the classes myself. But, I'd say the DDK is very much better in comparison, but the docs are like... X|
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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You ought to try the MFC Feature pack (VS 2008 Feature pack that adds new MFC classes). The classes are not good, the documentation is WORSE and it is just impossible if you'd go on to build something referring the documentation. All mostly for just showing off some fancy UI. I ended up using CodeJock UI library and when the clients have some really weird requirements, I had to write the classes myself. But, I'd say the DDK is very much better in comparison, but the docs are like... X|
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
Yet more evidence that Microsoft has deprecated native development in general, and C++ specifically, yet don't have the testicular fortitude to admit it publicly.
Software Zen:
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Yet more evidence that Microsoft has deprecated native development in general, and C++ specifically, yet don't have the testicular fortitude to admit it publicly.
Software Zen:
delete this;agreed. I'd rather they just admit it rather than keep pretending the next version of VS will address all the issues. But I think the writing is on the wall despite what they have said recently. As for 2010 being the next VS6? Heard it so many times the record has worn thin. I'm not hearing any major developments planned really - at best just fixing the broken parts. Still better than nothing I guess.
-- The Obliterator
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Yet more evidence that Microsoft has deprecated native development in general, and C++ specifically, yet don't have the testicular fortitude to admit it publicly.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
Yet more evidence that Microsoft has deprecated native development in general, and C++ specifically
Exactly! :thumbsup: I told this to the folks at MS directly (the visual studio team at IDC, India) in a casual meet and some of them agreed up with me "off the records", but never admit it or comment about it on an email, or in a talk that is public (even if it's casual). The fact is that they don't care about us native language developers anymore and things like "10 is the new 6" (bullsh*t, it isn't!), "Feature pack for MFC", etc., are just to wash it off our eyes. Somehow, it doesn't bother me because fortunately I am capable of writing my own stuff that they won't do for us. Even though if it were supposed to be "their job".
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini