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    Mike Gaskey
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    This is the one scheduled for Indianapolis[^] on 4-15-2009. Some 18 (as best I can tell) scheduled in Indiana, may be more. One of the guests will be the guy who does the uTube video[^]. Gregg Garrison, local conservative talk show host (he was the prosecutor that nailed Mike Tyson for rape) will also be there. No politicians were invited and at least one politician's request (conservative, Mike Pence) was denied a slot on stage.

    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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      This is the one scheduled for Indianapolis[^] on 4-15-2009. Some 18 (as best I can tell) scheduled in Indiana, may be more. One of the guests will be the guy who does the uTube video[^]. Gregg Garrison, local conservative talk show host (he was the prosecutor that nailed Mike Tyson for rape) will also be there. No politicians were invited and at least one politician's request (conservative, Mike Pence) was denied a slot on stage.

      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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      Stan Shannon
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      Are you going? I'm going to try to make it to Indy but I doubt I can be there by 4:30.

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Are you going? I'm going to try to make it to Indy but I doubt I can be there by 4:30.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Mike Gaskey
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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        Are you going?

        Stan, yes. I live a short 3 miles from downtown. easy commute.

        Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        • M Mike Gaskey

          This is the one scheduled for Indianapolis[^] on 4-15-2009. Some 18 (as best I can tell) scheduled in Indiana, may be more. One of the guests will be the guy who does the uTube video[^]. Gregg Garrison, local conservative talk show host (he was the prosecutor that nailed Mike Tyson for rape) will also be there. No politicians were invited and at least one politician's request (conservative, Mike Pence) was denied a slot on stage.

          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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          Ours is in Annapolis, I recieved a facebook invitation, I'll take the day off and bring the family. I plan on brining expensive beer and some cheap tea, I'll throw the tea into the Cheasapeak and drink the beer and chant anti-Obama (anti-Makulski, anti-Cardin, anti-Hoyer) slogans. I may go and buy a book at a book store, or a new computer periferal. Eat at the local food niches. I know socialists burn business harass people and are profane: Conservative protests have to be fun and support our local businesses... and be a family activity. :)

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            Ours is in Annapolis, I recieved a facebook invitation, I'll take the day off and bring the family. I plan on brining expensive beer and some cheap tea, I'll throw the tea into the Cheasapeak and drink the beer and chant anti-Obama (anti-Makulski, anti-Cardin, anti-Hoyer) slogans. I may go and buy a book at a book store, or a new computer periferal. Eat at the local food niches. I know socialists burn business harass people and are profane: Conservative protests have to be fun and support our local businesses... and be a family activity. :)

            modified on Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:31 PM

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            Mike Gaskey
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            :thumbsup: :thumbsup: re: book - try, "The 5000 Year Leap". eye opener.

            Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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              Ours is in Annapolis, I recieved a facebook invitation, I'll take the day off and bring the family. I plan on brining expensive beer and some cheap tea, I'll throw the tea into the Cheasapeak and drink the beer and chant anti-Obama (anti-Makulski, anti-Cardin, anti-Hoyer) slogans. I may go and buy a book at a book store, or a new computer periferal. Eat at the local food niches. I know socialists burn business harass people and are profane: Conservative protests have to be fun and support our local businesses... and be a family activity. :)

              modified on Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:31 PM

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              Synaptrik
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              Interesting bit of propaganda. How do you reconcile your support for local businesses with conservative support for policies that favor Wal-Mart? How can you support local business while protesting balanced tariffs as protectionism? China has tariffs against us. So does the EU. This tea party is one steaming pile of sour grapes. There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt. A bunch of sore losers I say.

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                Interesting bit of propaganda. How do you reconcile your support for local businesses with conservative support for policies that favor Wal-Mart? How can you support local business while protesting balanced tariffs as protectionism? China has tariffs against us. So does the EU. This tea party is one steaming pile of sour grapes. There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt. A bunch of sore losers I say.

                This statement is false

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                Mike Gaskey
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                Synaptrik wrote:

                There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                the TEA parties have nothing to do with debt. the TEA parties have everything to do with protesting the level of taxation. T - taxed E - enough A - already do you pay federal income taxes? do you pay excessive property taxes? do you pay state / local income taxes? that is what it is all about.

                Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                  Synaptrik wrote:

                  There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                  the TEA parties have nothing to do with debt. the TEA parties have everything to do with protesting the level of taxation. T - taxed E - enough A - already do you pay federal income taxes? do you pay excessive property taxes? do you pay state / local income taxes? that is what it is all about.

                  Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                  Synaptrik
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                  And exactly how many people had their taxes raised under Obama? 5%? State and local isn't Federal and has what to do with Obama? I do see this as targeted against Obama, so its a federal issue no?

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                    And exactly how many people had their taxes raised under Obama? 5%? State and local isn't Federal and has what to do with Obama? I do see this as targeted against Obama, so its a federal issue no?

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                    Mike Gaskey
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                    Synaptrik wrote:

                    I do see this as targeted against Obama, so its a federal issue no?

                    as much as I despise Obama, this isn't a protest against him. it is as I said, a protest against excessive taxation: state, local and federal.

                    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                    • S Synaptrik

                      Interesting bit of propaganda. How do you reconcile your support for local businesses with conservative support for policies that favor Wal-Mart? How can you support local business while protesting balanced tariffs as protectionism? China has tariffs against us. So does the EU. This tea party is one steaming pile of sour grapes. There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt. A bunch of sore losers I say.

                      This statement is false

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      Synaptrik wrote:

                      This tea party is one steaming pile of sour grapes. There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                      It is also not exclusively about the current administration. In fact, if anything, it is more anti-republican than anti-democrat which is why they are not being allowed to participate. The democrats are who they are and provide a political voice for a certain portion of the electorate. Republicans have betrayed those who support them, time and time again. If they had done what the were elected to do, we wouldn't be where we are now. And, yeah, its a little finger in the eye of all the socialist who think they now have full control of the country. The country is going in the wrong direction. That needs to be pointed out by someone.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                        Interesting bit of propaganda. How do you reconcile your support for local businesses with conservative support for policies that favor Wal-Mart? How can you support local business while protesting balanced tariffs as protectionism? China has tariffs against us. So does the EU. This tea party is one steaming pile of sour grapes. There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt. A bunch of sore losers I say.

                        This statement is false

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                        Synaptrik wrote:

                        There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                        Clinton balanced the budget and we had a surplus if memory serves.

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                          Interesting bit of propaganda. How do you reconcile your support for local businesses with conservative support for policies that favor Wal-Mart? How can you support local business while protesting balanced tariffs as protectionism? China has tariffs against us. So does the EU. This tea party is one steaming pile of sour grapes. There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt. A bunch of sore losers I say.

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                          Rob Graham
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                          Synaptrik wrote:

                          There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                          Overlooking the fact that Obama has run it up more than all of the above added together... Actually, many (myself included) complained about the Bush/Paulson/Geithner bailout run-up as well.

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                            Synaptrik wrote:

                            There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                            Clinton balanced the budget and we had a surplus if memory serves.

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                            Stan Shannon
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                            wolfbinary wrote:

                            Clinton balanced the budget and we had a surplus if memory serves.

                            Thanks to free market capitalism.

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Synaptrik wrote:

                              There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                              Clinton balanced the budget and we had a surplus if memory serves.

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                              Rob Graham
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                              He had a surplus on the current budget, but not on the overall national debt, which still grew under his administration.

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                                He had a surplus on the current budget, but not on the overall national debt, which still grew under his administration.

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                                wolfbinary
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                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                overall national debt

                                That's been going on for a very long time has it not?

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                                  This is the one scheduled for Indianapolis[^] on 4-15-2009. Some 18 (as best I can tell) scheduled in Indiana, may be more. One of the guests will be the guy who does the uTube video[^]. Gregg Garrison, local conservative talk show host (he was the prosecutor that nailed Mike Tyson for rape) will also be there. No politicians were invited and at least one politician's request (conservative, Mike Pence) was denied a slot on stage.

                                  Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                  wolfbinary
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                                  So what exactly are these 'tea' parties going to do to change things?

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                                    So what exactly are these 'tea' parties going to do to change things?

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                                    Rob Graham
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                                    A whole lot less than the original did.

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                                    • W wolfbinary

                                      Rob Graham wrote:

                                      overall national debt

                                      That's been going on for a very long time has it not?

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                                      Rob Graham
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                                      Actually, only since about 1940. Most of the initial debt was incurred to pay for WWII (War Bonds, later Us Savings Bonds) It began to grow again steadily in 1980 [^]

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                                      • M Mike Gaskey

                                        Synaptrik wrote:

                                        I do see this as targeted against Obama, so its a federal issue no?

                                        as much as I despise Obama, this isn't a protest against him. it is as I said, a protest against excessive taxation: state, local and federal.

                                        Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                        Synaptrik
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                                        Fair enough. I'll just say it appears to be targeted at Obama when listening the rhetoric surrounding it in the media. But fair enough.

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                                          Synaptrik wrote:

                                          There wasn't as much objection when Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, and Bush2 ran up the debt.

                                          Clinton balanced the budget and we had a surplus if memory serves.

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                                          Synaptrik
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                                          Didn't want to play favorites. Better if someone else points that out. Thanks.

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