Happy new year 2066 Bikram Sambat (B.S)
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You've obviously not encountered Philipinos that were fresh off of the boat and were speaking English. They speak perfect English, but the V is substituted with a B.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
You've obviously not encountered Philipinos that were fresh off of the boat and were speaking English. They speak perfect English, but the V is substituted with a B.
Oh okay, I didn't know that either. Reminds me of how in Malayalam (my native tongue) we have a particular sound that cannot be written in English-script. It's written as zha but it's not pronounced how it reads. Only people who grew up in my state can pronounce that sound. Even other Indians would struggle to repeat the sound if we tried to teach them.
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ktm TechMan wrote:
It was established by a king named Bikram Adhittya.
Interesting spelling. In Kerala, the name's written (and pronounced) as Vikram Adithya.
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkYes. In Nepal, Bihar and some regions of UP, V is pronounced as B. So Vikram = Bikram. It's mostly in northern areas. It's like "southern" accent here in the US. It's different as you may have seen.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
You've obviously not encountered Philipinos that were fresh off of the boat and were speaking English. They speak perfect English, but the V is substituted with a B.
Oh okay, I didn't know that either. Reminds me of how in Malayalam (my native tongue) we have a particular sound that cannot be written in English-script. It's written as zha but it's not pronounced how it reads. Only people who grew up in my state can pronounce that sound. Even other Indians would struggle to repeat the sound if we tried to teach them.
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
particular sound that cannot be written in English-script.
Oh man, there are tons of examples like that :) I could name examples in Arabic, Persian, Mandarin (I speak a bit having lived/worked in China for a year) and I'm sure there are zillions I don't know about. Languages are a gorgeous thing. If I had the time, I'd learn as many as I could. And not just the C/C++/C#/F# variety either ;p
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
particular sound that cannot be written in English-script.
Oh man, there are tons of examples like that :) I could name examples in Arabic, Persian, Mandarin (I speak a bit having lived/worked in China for a year) and I'm sure there are zillions I don't know about. Languages are a gorgeous thing. If I had the time, I'd learn as many as I could. And not just the C/C++/C#/F# variety either ;p
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If I had the time, I'd learn as many as I could.
Me too. Though I think it may have been easier had I tried that as a child. After a certain age it's not easy to pick up new languages.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Are you going to give me a shock by telling that you didn't know Bengali (and a few other languages) does not have 'V' (the akshar 'va'). 'B' gets used instead. Bery interesting?
Wow - no I didn't know that. One of my best friends from school is Bengali and he didn't have this va-handicap, but then he grew up in Trivandrum. So Bengalis would say "Birendar Sehwag and Benus Billiams" ? I find that very hard to believe. :~
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkIf I remember it right, in Russian, the letter "B" sounds "V" in english, "va" kinda. I guess "Vunic" would look something like "BHИK". Not sure if it's exactly right.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Are you going to give me a shock by telling that you didn't know Bengali (and a few other languages) does not have 'V' (the akshar 'va'). 'B' gets used instead. Bery interesting?
Wow - no I didn't know that. One of my best friends from school is Bengali and he didn't have this va-handicap, but then he grew up in Trivandrum. So Bengalis would say "Birendar Sehwag and Benus Billiams" ? I find that very hard to believe. :~
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So Bengalis would say "Birendar Sehwag and Benus Billiams" ?
Actually, yes. But some of them learn to use 'va' as well (I don't know how, perhaps they travel, work outside their state, etc.,), while the rest of them don't.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
So Bengalis would say "Birendar Sehwag and Benus Billiams" ?
Actually, yes. But some of them learn to use 'va' as well (I don't know how, perhaps they travel, work outside their state, etc.,), while the rest of them don't.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Actually, yes. But some of them learn to use 'va' as well (I don't know how, perhaps they travel, work outside their state, etc.,), while the rest of them don't.
Interesting, very interesting.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Happy New Year to you from a guy called Vikram
That's what I first noted, how the OP spelled it with a B (and I assume he pronounces it with a b-sound too).
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkPeople from North and East India (no idea about the North-East though) do that very often. Haven't you come across Bongs or Biharis? The national song is often referred to in Bengali as Bande Mataram. King Vikram (of Vikram-Betal fame) is also called Bikram. Personally, I find it jarring. :~ Hell, even Hindi might suffer from this V/B dichotomy - 20 in Marathi is Vees, but in Hindi it's Bees. But remember, one swallow doesn't make a summer.
Cheers, Vıkram.
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People from North and East India (no idea about the North-East though) do that very often. Haven't you come across Bongs or Biharis? The national song is often referred to in Bengali as Bande Mataram. King Vikram (of Vikram-Betal fame) is also called Bikram. Personally, I find it jarring. :~ Hell, even Hindi might suffer from this V/B dichotomy - 20 in Marathi is Vees, but in Hindi it's Bees. But remember, one swallow doesn't make a summer.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
of Vikram-Betal fame
Curious that you chose to use B-etal. In Malayalam it's Vetalam and the old DD series (when I was in school) used to be Vikram aur Vetal. Maybe the same V/B swap happened here too.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
But remember, one swallow doesn't make a summer.
Yep, totally agreed. Not all mallus say "zimbly" either :rolleyes:
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
You've obviously not encountered Philipinos that were fresh off of the boat and were speaking English. They speak perfect English, but the V is substituted with a B.
Oh okay, I didn't know that either. Reminds me of how in Malayalam (my native tongue) we have a particular sound that cannot be written in English-script. It's written as zha but it's not pronounced how it reads. Only people who grew up in my state can pronounce that sound. Even other Indians would struggle to repeat the sound if we tried to teach them.
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkYou mean the sound at the end when you say Tamil? Or even the Tamil word for fruit, Palam/Pazham? It's odd that both you Mallus and Tamils boast about how this sound is unique to your own language. :laugh: Even Marathi, an Aryan language, has it. It is rendered as ळ.
Cheers, Vıkram.
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You mean the sound at the end when you say Tamil? Or even the Tamil word for fruit, Palam/Pazham? It's odd that both you Mallus and Tamils boast about how this sound is unique to your own language. :laugh: Even Marathi, an Aryan language, has it. It is rendered as ळ.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
You mean the sound at the end when you say Tamil? Or even the Tamil word for fruit, Palam/Pazham?
Yeah, though funnily I now say Tamil with an L-sound even when I am speaking Malayalam. All my Tamil friends mis-pronounced pazham as palam :-) Maybe it's just a dialect thing here - as in southern Tamilians don't pronounce zha correctly.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
It's odd that both you Mallus and Tamils boast about how this sound is unique to your own language.
Well I don't know about the Tamils, but for us Mallus, this is all we have dude :-) Please allow us to to bask in our zha-related glory without bringing in unfortunate facts like the fact that Marathi has it too :rolleyes:
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
You mean the sound at the end when you say Tamil? Or even the Tamil word for fruit, Palam/Pazham?
Yeah, though funnily I now say Tamil with an L-sound even when I am speaking Malayalam. All my Tamil friends mis-pronounced pazham as palam :-) Maybe it's just a dialect thing here - as in southern Tamilians don't pronounce zha correctly.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
It's odd that both you Mallus and Tamils boast about how this sound is unique to your own language.
Well I don't know about the Tamils, but for us Mallus, this is all we have dude :-) Please allow us to to bask in our zha-related glory without bringing in unfortunate facts like the fact that Marathi has it too :rolleyes:
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
of Vikram-Betal fame
Curious that you chose to use B-etal. In Malayalam it's Vetalam and the old DD series (when I was in school) used to be Vikram aur Vetal. Maybe the same V/B swap happened here too.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
But remember, one swallow doesn't make a summer.
Yep, totally agreed. Not all mallus say "zimbly" either :rolleyes:
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkYeah, it's Vedhalam in Tamil too, but we say Betal in Marathi, and Vikram-Betal is the most common.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Not all mallus say "zimbly" either
But they all love Cocenet, eh?
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
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Yeah, it's Vedhalam in Tamil too, but we say Betal in Marathi, and Vikram-Betal is the most common.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Not all mallus say "zimbly" either
But they all love Cocenet, eh?
Cheers, Vıkram.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
But they all love Cocenet, eh?
Now that's just mean :-D
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
But they all love Cocenet, eh?
Now that's just mean :-D
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkDude, you must have heard your share of Mallu jokes, but this is hilarious:
Why did the Mallu go to the concert in Rome?
Because he wanted to hear pope music.Why did his wife divorce him?
Because he was louwing another woman.Who found out that?
His aandy.Full joke here[^] This[^] one about naming of Christian Mallus is funny too.
Cheers, Vıkram.
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Dude, you must have heard your share of Mallu jokes, but this is hilarious:
Why did the Mallu go to the concert in Rome?
Because he wanted to hear pope music.Why did his wife divorce him?
Because he was louwing another woman.Who found out that?
His aandy.Full joke here[^] This[^] one about naming of Christian Mallus is funny too.
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.
Yeah I have seen these multiple times in the past, usually via emails forwarded to me by other mallus. For some reason mallus seem to be the biggest proponents of mallu jokes, specially mallus who live outside Kerala :-)
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