mice and trackballs and tablets (oh my)...
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Ah, thanks much. I think i read in a review that that thing doesn't work on Vista. That's not a problem for me, though.
I can't imagine why it wouldn't work. It's possible the Kensington software has not been updated, but I use it with the standard mouse driver. But I have never tried it with Vista, so as broken as Vista is, it's possible that it will not work.
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ok, i'm outa work and lookin' for new "experiences"... so i thought i'd start with input devices... I hear people (cough, shog9, cough) swear by trackballs. And I like the idea of a stationary input device that doesn't fry my wrist. But I also REALLY like the whizzin' scroll wheel of my current mouse. here[^] (by whizzin', I mean you start it goin and intertia will keep it goin for a while - like those tops you could stack on top of each other and wrecked hardwood floors when we were kids) I like the whizzin' since you can have your text editor scroll allll the way through a long source file by a "whizz start" and "whizz stop". Instead of "scroll scroll scroll scroll..." I see some trackballs have scrollwheels, but not the whizzin' kind. And it seems wierd to me that a trackball would HAVE a scrollwheel. Wouldn't it make more sense to just use the ball as the scroll wheel? You might have to go into some mode or somethin (yuck). I'm also looking for a device that when you're in a paint program and working with 2 pixels next to each other doesn't make your head esplode coordinating the dang thing. Here are all the trackballs I've found: clearlysuperiortech[^] logitech[^] kensington[^] QTronix[^] trackballworld[^] So far, I'm leaning towards a black "clearlysuperiortech" one. Or maybe the logitech "cordless trackman optical" - but it's not corded and has a bulky comm dock thingy. I don't have much desk space, my keyboard,etc sits on a small wooden platform on top of my piano keyboard. Also, I've
I have the Logitech and I really like it. Large ball, smooth motion, lots of extra button to program
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I have the Logitech and I really like it. Large ball, smooth motion, lots of extra button to program
Hmmm, let's sing that old refrain agin'... :rolleyes: Exactly which Logitech do you have?
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ok, i'm outa work and lookin' for new "experiences"... so i thought i'd start with input devices... I hear people (cough, shog9, cough) swear by trackballs. And I like the idea of a stationary input device that doesn't fry my wrist. But I also REALLY like the whizzin' scroll wheel of my current mouse. here[^] (by whizzin', I mean you start it goin and intertia will keep it goin for a while - like those tops you could stack on top of each other and wrecked hardwood floors when we were kids) I like the whizzin' since you can have your text editor scroll allll the way through a long source file by a "whizz start" and "whizz stop". Instead of "scroll scroll scroll scroll..." I see some trackballs have scrollwheels, but not the whizzin' kind. And it seems wierd to me that a trackball would HAVE a scrollwheel. Wouldn't it make more sense to just use the ball as the scroll wheel? You might have to go into some mode or somethin (yuck). I'm also looking for a device that when you're in a paint program and working with 2 pixels next to each other doesn't make your head esplode coordinating the dang thing. Here are all the trackballs I've found: clearlysuperiortech[^] logitech[^] kensington[^] QTronix[^] trackballworld[^] So far, I'm leaning towards a black "clearlysuperiortech" one. Or maybe the logitech "cordless trackman optical" - but it's not corded and has a bulky comm dock thingy. I don't have much desk space, my keyboard,etc sits on a small wooden platform on top of my piano keyboard. Also, I've
I love my Trackball Explorer[^]s. Unfortunately, they're discontinued and mine are wearing out. I'll end up switching to a Logitech soon, and don't yet know how i'll get along with that... The advantage of the scroll wheel on the TE is that it's under your thumb - you can scroll without repositioning your hand, holding a button, or moving the cursor. You can also click the button (when configured as the "middle" button) and still move the ball with your fingers to pan around in programs that support it. I've had one of those Bamboo tablets for a while. They're very useful for some things (quick and precise annotations) but the tablet is just a bit too small to use comfortably for long tasks.
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I love my Trackball Explorer[^]s. Unfortunately, they're discontinued and mine are wearing out. I'll end up switching to a Logitech soon, and don't yet know how i'll get along with that... The advantage of the scroll wheel on the TE is that it's under your thumb - you can scroll without repositioning your hand, holding a button, or moving the cursor. You can also click the button (when configured as the "middle" button) and still move the ball with your fingers to pan around in programs that support it. I've had one of those Bamboo tablets for a while. They're very useful for some things (quick and precise annotations) but the tablet is just a bit too small to use comfortably for long tasks.
So I'm guessin' you'll be tryin' out THIS logitech?[^] Think that'll beat THIS kensington[^] (with it's scroll "ring") I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go get one of those bamboo fun - small tablets today. Just cause they're actually IN STOCK (oh the shock!) If'n I like it, I might go for one of those IntuOS ones... Not too sure... Thanks :) ...Steve
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ok, i'm outa work and lookin' for new "experiences"... so i thought i'd start with input devices... I hear people (cough, shog9, cough) swear by trackballs. And I like the idea of a stationary input device that doesn't fry my wrist. But I also REALLY like the whizzin' scroll wheel of my current mouse. here[^] (by whizzin', I mean you start it goin and intertia will keep it goin for a while - like those tops you could stack on top of each other and wrecked hardwood floors when we were kids) I like the whizzin' since you can have your text editor scroll allll the way through a long source file by a "whizz start" and "whizz stop". Instead of "scroll scroll scroll scroll..." I see some trackballs have scrollwheels, but not the whizzin' kind. And it seems wierd to me that a trackball would HAVE a scrollwheel. Wouldn't it make more sense to just use the ball as the scroll wheel? You might have to go into some mode or somethin (yuck). I'm also looking for a device that when you're in a paint program and working with 2 pixels next to each other doesn't make your head esplode coordinating the dang thing. Here are all the trackballs I've found: clearlysuperiortech[^] logitech[^] kensington[^] QTronix[^] trackballworld[^] So far, I'm leaning towards a black "clearlysuperiortech" one. Or maybe the logitech "cordless trackman optical" - but it's not corded and has a bulky comm dock thingy. I don't have much desk space, my keyboard,etc sits on a small wooden platform on top of my piano keyboard. Also, I've
Been using trackballs for about 10 or so years, currently using a Logitech trackman wheel (wired as I hate running out of battery). Would not go back to a regular mouse, but it takes a little while (read a day or two) to get used to it, and initialy it makes your thumb hurt as it gets exercise at long last. Once used to it, pixel selection is so easy, and you can move the mouse pointer, leave it there and then press the button - without the pointer moving at all. Try that in photoshop with a regular mouse and I start swearing. Plus, it is realy good for FPS since you don't run off the mouse mat at a critical moment...
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So I'm guessin' you'll be tryin' out THIS logitech?[^] Think that'll beat THIS kensington[^] (with it's scroll "ring") I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go get one of those bamboo fun - small tablets today. Just cause they're actually IN STOCK (oh the shock!) If'n I like it, I might go for one of those IntuOS ones... Not too sure... Thanks :) ...Steve
Steve Hazel wrote:
So I'm guessin' you'll be tryin' out THIS logitech?[^]
Probably, if i can find it locally. No way i'm mail-ordering something like this - need to be able to return it fast if i don't like it.
Steve Hazel wrote:
Think that'll beat THIS kensington[^] (with it's scroll "ring")
Man, that is ugly. And there's no way i'm palming the ball - finger-tip operation is key to accuracy and pain-avoidance.
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Been using trackballs for about 10 or so years, currently using a Logitech trackman wheel (wired as I hate running out of battery). Would not go back to a regular mouse, but it takes a little while (read a day or two) to get used to it, and initialy it makes your thumb hurt as it gets exercise at long last. Once used to it, pixel selection is so easy, and you can move the mouse pointer, leave it there and then press the button - without the pointer moving at all. Try that in photoshop with a regular mouse and I start swearing. Plus, it is realy good for FPS since you don't run off the mouse mat at a critical moment...
I don't have PS, but've never had issues with moving the mouse a pixel while clicking in paint or a few games where 1 pixel accuracy was occasionally needed.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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I don't have PS, but've never had issues with moving the mouse a pixel while clicking in paint or a few games where 1 pixel accuracy was occasionally needed.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
Sorry about that -- I have the Cordless Trackman Marble. I also have a Trackman Marble FX (which I don't even know if you can get now) that I bought back in '98 -- it's based on the same optical technology and still works great, using it every day.
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Sorry about that -- I have the Cordless Trackman Marble. I also have a Trackman Marble FX (which I don't even know if you can get now) that I bought back in '98 -- it's based on the same optical technology and still works great, using it every day.
Trackman Marble FX - ooh, tried that when they first came out and couldn't get on with it. I just found it too slow, and it was alkward to use the buttons when moving the ball. You can't rest your fingers on all the buttons and move the pointer at the same time, which is a horrible drawback.
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ok, i'm outa work and lookin' for new "experiences"... so i thought i'd start with input devices... I hear people (cough, shog9, cough) swear by trackballs. And I like the idea of a stationary input device that doesn't fry my wrist. But I also REALLY like the whizzin' scroll wheel of my current mouse. here[^] (by whizzin', I mean you start it goin and intertia will keep it goin for a while - like those tops you could stack on top of each other and wrecked hardwood floors when we were kids) I like the whizzin' since you can have your text editor scroll allll the way through a long source file by a "whizz start" and "whizz stop". Instead of "scroll scroll scroll scroll..." I see some trackballs have scrollwheels, but not the whizzin' kind. And it seems wierd to me that a trackball would HAVE a scrollwheel. Wouldn't it make more sense to just use the ball as the scroll wheel? You might have to go into some mode or somethin (yuck). I'm also looking for a device that when you're in a paint program and working with 2 pixels next to each other doesn't make your head esplode coordinating the dang thing. Here are all the trackballs I've found: clearlysuperiortech[^] logitech[^] kensington[^] QTronix[^] trackballworld[^] So far, I'm leaning towards a black "clearlysuperiortech" one. Or maybe the logitech "cordless trackman optical" - but it's not corded and has a bulky comm dock thingy. I don't have much desk space, my keyboard,etc sits on a small wooden platform on top of my piano keyboard. Also, I've
Logitech Trackman Wheel - thumball control, haven't used anything else for years it's the only thing I found that doesn't make my wrist/arm ache after a few hours. They do a wired version too in case you (like me) never have a spare AA battery around!
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect
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Logitech Trackman Wheel - thumball control, haven't used anything else for years it's the only thing I found that doesn't make my wrist/arm ache after a few hours. They do a wired version too in case you (like me) never have a spare AA battery around!
Apathy Rules - I suppose...
Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect
Buy a charger and a set of batteries specifically for it. Then add it to the rats nest of wires around your PC. You'll never lack for charged spares again.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
