I very stupid opinion about IQ

Stan Shannon

John Carson wrote:

Perhaps. And your point is? How does this contradict anything Kristof says.

I wasn't attempting to contradict the article. There was nothing to contradict. The point is that the article is part of a general liberal narrative publications such as the Times promote. "Oh, if only people as superior as we are had more control over society, we could make things so much better for everyone. Why, we could even make people almost as smart as we are."

John Carson wrote:

If you weren't talking out of your arse, you would know that there has been a long term trend for IQ scores to drift up using any given test. To prevent this upward drift, IQ tests have steadily been revised to make them more difficult. Just what this upward drift in IQ means is much debated. Almost certainly people are becoming more skilled in the type of abstract thinking that IQ tests test, but to what extent they are becoming more intelligent in general is less clear.

Gee, ya think that might be because some people are smart enough to prepare for them?

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Chris Austin

Back in college, a good friend's dad was a disgruntled Mensa member. He had lots of stories about them. When I told him I had never taken an IQ test he congratulated me :laugh: Of course as it relates to children, my friend/ his son was just about the most independent and self motivated 21 year old I have ever know. He wasn't at the top of our small graduating class (that was the pot head) but he was very bright.

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Oakman

Bob Emmett wrote:

Especially if they join Mensa.

At 22, I just knew that I was the brightest, most talented, and handsomest creature to ever walk the face of this earth. Of course, I am much older wiser than that now. ;)

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Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

Gee, ya think that might be because some people are smart enough to prepare for them?

so why weren't you?

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Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

so why weren't you?

To the best of my memory, I've never actually had an official, administered IQ test. Although, I've always scored high on entrance exams and aptitude tests will little effort. In college we took a practice IQ test as part of a class and I scored something like 120, far short of mensa material, I'm afraid. But, then, I didn't prepare for it since it wasn't for any official purpose.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

At 22, I just knew that I was the brightest, most talented, and handsomest

What the fuck happened? :laugh:

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

What the f*** happened

I grew up. Why didn't you?

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

But, then, I didn't prepare for it since it wasn't for any official purpose.

Best way to prepare for IQ tests, is to be born very smart. It certainly helps to have parents that encourage their child in intellectual pursuits and teachers who recognize intelligence when they see it. But if you don't have the right stuff, you'll never break out of the pack.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

I grew up. Why didn't you?

That would just be so boring.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

Best way to prepare for IQ tests, is to be born very smart

I'll take your word for it. :)

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

I'll take your word for it

Always a wise course of action -- well, almost always -- well, sometimes.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin