GM

[Oakman]

Christian Graus wrote:

I wonder how closely GM are tied to Holden here in Australia

GM owns Holden.

Christian Graus wrote:

I've not heard anything about them being in trouble.

In a report on the future of Australia's automobile industry from AAP that was hosted on several news sites, Clive Matthew-Wilson, Editor of the car buyers Dog & Lemon Guide, claims that Holden will most likely be the first carmaker from Down-Under to bite the dust due to the recession[^] I am afraid that now you have. :(

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[Oakman]

Chris Austin wrote:

Then again, that is what a lot of people say about EVE Online

I have great respect for the boyos over at Eve, but no desire to play the game. I prefer the kind of combat algorithms that Civ 4 employs which deal in probabilities, not absolutes.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[Christian Graus]

Ilíon wrote:

and your bitch is coherent only

Yeah, my bitch is not coherent at all, no matter how much I smack her.....

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

[Rob Graham]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Christian Graus]

Too bad, I was always a Holden man, although I see more Fords on the road, and drive all Toyotas nowadays.

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

[Oakman]

Christian Graus wrote:

my bitch is not coherent at all, no matter how much I smack her.....

Arf! :thumbsup:

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[Chris Austin]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I am lucky I swallowed the gulp of water I had just taken right before reading your post.

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

[Chris Austin]

Oakman wrote:

I have great respect for the boyos over at Eve, but no desire to play the game.

I've enjoyed the game the times I've played it but not enough to hang around for more than a month. The times I have had the chance to chat with some of the team members they are very friendly and really enthusiastic about their work. They gave a really good talk at this years pycon here[^] and here[^].

Oakman wrote:

I prefer the kind of combat algorithms that Civ 4 employs which deal in probabilities, not absolutes.

Another game that has stolen nights from me. My wife pretty much forced me to remove it from my game machine.

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

[Oakman]

Chris Austin wrote:

My wife pretty much forced me to remove it from my game machine.

Just one more turn, honey. Then I'll come to bed. . .

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[Lost User]

Christian Graus wrote:

Too bad, I was always a Holden man, although I see more Fords on the road, and drive all Toyotas nowadays.

Have no fear, Kev will save us!!!!

[Christian Graus]

Yeah, I feel much better now....

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

[Ilion]

That was so lame X| , and so automatic :zzz: ... and, naturally, pretty much what one has learned to expect.

[Christian Graus]

Wow - the approval of people who I respect, and the disapproval of the person who I don't. That's what I call a 100% success rate.

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

[Rob Graham]

Since you like them, here's one for you: :thumbsdown:

[Chris Austin]

:thumbsup:

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

[Oakman]

Christian Graus wrote:

That's what I call a 100% success rate.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[Oakman]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[Brady Kelly]

Oakman wrote:

I think you're confusing morality with religio

Ilion's opinion of our nature, and implicitly of his own, precludes morality without religion.

[Brady Kelly]

Oakman wrote:

Say what? The rule of law has as its result, the right to break contracts with impugnity? What are you smoking today? I think he means a society committed the letter of the law is bound to become a slave to loopholes.

[Oakman]

Brady Kelly wrote:

I think he means a society committed the letter of the law is bound to become a slave to loopholes

Perhaps. And perhaps he is right - but a society committed to the rule of men is nothing but loopholes. Certainly, if the king can forgive this debt and double that one with a wave of his scepter, we are even worse off than we are now. (It might be argued that Obama is trying to get that power written into law.) The problem with any democracy appears to be that sooner or later the sheeple decide to vote themselves benefits. Businesses decide that it would be really nice to be able to hide behind a law that says they don't have to pay what they owe or deliver what they have contracted for. Not surprisingly, the people who are affected by that law want the same advantage in their financial dealings. It appears now that GM will be able to break its union contracts and its agreements with its franchisers - some of whom having spent millions building up their role as middleman and emerge with no real scars and a fat reward paid from the taxes of the same people who they just screwed to the wall. Senior management will point out that they are sharing in everyone's pain because they have cut their multi-million dollars salaries by 1/3rd, and jet off the the Keys for vacation. Back in the day, they would have gone to jail.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin