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  • A Alan Burkhart

    Christian Graus wrote:

    Why would my computer freeze just because of bandwidth issues ?

    Maybe the author meant "browser" instead of "computer?" And how does a computer "jitter?" Still haven't figured that one out.

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    Vikram A Punathambekar
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    Alan Burkhart wrote:

    Maybe the author meant "browser" instead of "computer?"

    I have a slow connection (128 kbps) and my browser doesn't freeze up when I visit, say, Youtube. I suspect the author is just throwing out big words that he doesn't understand but hopes will scare people.

    Cheers, Vikram.

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    • A Alan Burkhart

      Saw this article and have to wonder how much of it is actually based on facts, and how much is pure speculation. Any thoughts? Beware surfers: cyberspace is filling up (excerpt) Internet users face regular “brownouts” that will freeze their computers as capacity runs out in cyberspace, according to research to be published later this year. Experts predict that consumer demand, already growing at 60 per cent a year, will start to exceed supply from as early as next year because of more people working online and the soaring popularity of bandwidth-hungry websites such as YouTube and services such as the BBC’s iPlayer. It will initially lead to computers being disrupted and going offline for several minutes at a time. From 2012, however, PCs and laptops are likely to operate at a much reduced speed, rendering the internet an “unreliable toy”. Article: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6169488.ece

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      Brady Kelly
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      Alan Burkhart wrote:

      Saw this article and have to wonder how much of it is actually based on facts, and how much is pure speculation. Any thoughts?

      I had a brownout just moments ago. I wanted to attach a file in GMail, and Firefox hung up for about two minutes when I clicked the link.

      You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.

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      • B Brady Kelly

        Alan Burkhart wrote:

        Saw this article and have to wonder how much of it is actually based on facts, and how much is pure speculation. Any thoughts?

        I had a brownout just moments ago. I wanted to attach a file in GMail, and Firefox hung up for about two minutes when I clicked the link.

        You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.

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        Donkey Master
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        Brady Kelly wrote:

        Alan Burkhart wrote: Saw this article and have to wonder how much of it is actually based on facts, and how much is pure speculation. Any thoughts? I had a brownout just moments ago. I wanted to attach a file in GMail, and Firefox hung up for about two minutes when I clicked the link.

        You forgot the :) "joke" icon

        "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." - Edsger Dijkstra

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        • A Alan Burkhart

          Saw this article and have to wonder how much of it is actually based on facts, and how much is pure speculation. Any thoughts? Beware surfers: cyberspace is filling up (excerpt) Internet users face regular “brownouts” that will freeze their computers as capacity runs out in cyberspace, according to research to be published later this year. Experts predict that consumer demand, already growing at 60 per cent a year, will start to exceed supply from as early as next year because of more people working online and the soaring popularity of bandwidth-hungry websites such as YouTube and services such as the BBC’s iPlayer. It will initially lead to computers being disrupted and going offline for several minutes at a time. From 2012, however, PCs and laptops are likely to operate at a much reduced speed, rendering the internet an “unreliable toy”. Article: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6169488.ece

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          Caslen
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          What - are we bored of flu doom already, time for some internet doom instead.

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            While this article is surely not particularly well researched (I've only read the comments here, and not the original article), it is nieve to think that the capacity of the bandwidth is infinite, or will somehow expand to fulfil requirements in its present form. BBC iPlayer apparently utilised up to 30% of the UK bandwidth duriong the olympics - and that with only 300,000 users. Let's assume exageration and it was actually 10% of the bandwidth (cuz my maths is bad) then if 3 million british internet users streamed on iPlayer the entire bandwidth available otthe UK would be sed up. And 3 million isn't a lot if we move toward streaming in the mainstream.

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            yafi
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            I quite liked your statistics. And yes you do seem to be thinking on the right lines. I wonder if this will be first case of "an innovation that killed the very business it was supposed to earn revenue out of" Oh wait no, that has already been done. Apparently it is called Windows Vista.

            A random thread of execution trying to pulsate in sync with the growing entropy of this cluttered high tech cyberspace.

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            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

              Alan Burkhart wrote:

              Trust me, that ain't much.

              Yeah, but you know your limits and [I hope] wouldn't come up with some half-cocked up diddly do strewmamy horse poo poo to feed the poo poo gobblers that read that sort of stuff and start a "brownout" cult because they smoked the plastic casing on their cables.

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              sketch2002
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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

              half-cocked up diddly do strewmamy horse poo poo to feed the poo poo gobblers

              What the heck ( :wtf: / :omg: ) did you say? Can you say that three times fast? LMAO :laugh: Thanks for the laugh.

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                half-cocked up diddly do strewmamy horse poo poo to feed the poo poo gobblers

                What the heck ( :wtf: / :omg: ) did you say? Can you say that three times fast? LMAO :laugh: Thanks for the laugh.

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                We're here to please :)

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                • C Caslen

                  What - are we bored of flu doom already, time for some internet doom instead.

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                  Alan Burkhart
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                  Caslen wrote:

                  What - are we bored of flu doom already, time for some internet doom instead.

                  There are always plenty of doomsday scenarios to choose from. Global warming, flu, alien abductions and enough gov't conspiracies to last a lifetime. And now the Internet? Stuff like this made Art Bell a wealthy man.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    I'm sure he does mean that. It's just my first clue that he doesn't have one.

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                    Fabio Franco
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                    Bull's Eye

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                    • A Alan Burkhart

                      Caslen wrote:

                      What - are we bored of flu doom already, time for some internet doom instead.

                      There are always plenty of doomsday scenarios to choose from. Global warming, flu, alien abductions and enough gov't conspiracies to last a lifetime. And now the Internet? Stuff like this made Art Bell a wealthy man.

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                      Alan Burkhart wrote:

                      There are always plenty of doomsday scenarios to choose from. Global warming, flu, alien abductions and enough gov't conspiracies to last a lifetime.

                      Fixed that for you.

                      It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                        Alan Burkhart wrote:

                        There are always plenty of doomsday scenarios to choose from. Global warming, flu, alien abductions and enough gov't conspiracies to last a lifetime.

                        Fixed that for you.

                        It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                        Alan Burkhart
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                        dan neely wrote:

                        Fixed that for you.

                        No argument from me. We've had too much gov't for years. Both parties preach fiscal restraint, transparency and personal accountability. Neither comes through, nor do they intend to. The current president will be no different except that his spending habits will make all the others look like monks by comparison.

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                        • A Alan Burkhart

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Why would my computer freeze just because of bandwidth issues ?

                          Maybe the author meant "browser" instead of "computer?" And how does a computer "jitter?" Still haven't figured that one out.

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                          urbane tiger
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                          Alan Burkhart wrote:

                          And how does a computer "jitter?" Still haven't figured that one out. Quote Selected Text

                          Can't can how they jitter, but I venture to suggest they do it as a result of bugs. presumably in someones Swing code.

                          Multi famam, conscientiam pauci verentur.(Pliny)

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                          • A Alan Burkhart

                            Saw this article and have to wonder how much of it is actually based on facts, and how much is pure speculation. Any thoughts? Beware surfers: cyberspace is filling up (excerpt) Internet users face regular “brownouts” that will freeze their computers as capacity runs out in cyberspace, according to research to be published later this year. Experts predict that consumer demand, already growing at 60 per cent a year, will start to exceed supply from as early as next year because of more people working online and the soaring popularity of bandwidth-hungry websites such as YouTube and services such as the BBC’s iPlayer. It will initially lead to computers being disrupted and going offline for several minutes at a time. From 2012, however, PCs and laptops are likely to operate at a much reduced speed, rendering the internet an “unreliable toy”. Article: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6169488.ece

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                            urbane tiger
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                            Not only do I doubt the veracity of the research, but nor do I care that much if the net does brown out. There's plenty of books to read, music to be heard, walks not yet taken, plays still unimagined, visual arts not seen and thoughts not contemplated. More than enough to while away the rest my allotted time in this place. In Sydney we're more concerned about power brown outs, from which I fear we'll suffer in perpetuity. I look forward to the day when we can vote this government out and start blaming another one.

                            Multi famam, conscientiam pauci verentur.(Pliny)

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