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Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater

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    Kevin McFarlane
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    Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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      Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      That is Christopher Duncan's favorite Chrome feature.

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        Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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        Dan Neely
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        ... according to a paper sponsored by Google. And in other news: Water is wet. The Sun rises in the East.

        It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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          Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          Actually the proper way to read this paper will be: Most users prefer to disable automatic updates where they can,

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            Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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            As Rama notes, Christopher Duncan ranted about this[^] a while back... IMHO, it's one of those things that has become near-essential for software targeted at average home users, who really can't be bothered to manually install updates for all their applications. But it does tend to send the more tech-savvy users into fits...

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              Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

              Kevin

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Funny enough, Chrome's update mechanism is the very reason I never installed Chrome on any of my machines.

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                Actually the proper way to read this paper will be: Most users prefer to disable automatic updates where they can,

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                Most users prefer to disable automatic updates where they can

                mmm... Firefox, which does allow you to easily disable automatic updates, still has 85% of its userbase updated within 21 days. That's a sizable majority. Personally, the only browser I have automatic updates disabled for is IE, due WU's habit of requiring me to reboot after installing updates. Of course, IE stats aren't included in this study, so who knows how many users are doing the same...

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                  ... according to a paper sponsored by Google. And in other news: Water is wet. The Sun rises in the East.

                  It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                  Kevin McFarlane
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                  Regardless of whether it is most effective what are your own views of the feature?

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                    Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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                    Electron Shepherd
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                    Sounds ideal for 10,000 seat corporates. Every machine on the network checking every 5 hours... :doh:

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      That is Christopher Duncan's favorite Chrome feature.

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                      Kevin McFarlane
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                      In theory all software should be silently updated with security/bug fixes (but not features, as the Google article says). In practice since virtually all software has bugs I like to have control. For example setting silent update with the possibility of rolling back to an earlier version in light of regressions would be nice.

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                        Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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                        This may be ok for typical user, but not for me. I need to have full control as to what goes on. While having auto-update is nice, but it can break havoc as well. There are times I need to delay update for sometime, for example, at the time of release.

                        Yusuf May I help you?

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                          As Rama notes, Christopher Duncan ranted about this[^] a while back... IMHO, it's one of those things that has become near-essential for software targeted at average home users, who really can't be bothered to manually install updates for all their applications. But it does tend to send the more tech-savvy users into fits...

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                          I have nothing against setting it as the default. But we should be able to control it.

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                            Funny enough, Chrome's update mechanism is the very reason I never installed Chrome on any of my machines.

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                            Kevin McFarlane
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                            I dislike non-configurable auto-updates. But I have Chrome installed nonetheless. However, it's not my default browser.

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                              Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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                              Todd Smith
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                              Google can afford to do that atm since they aren't a key system component like IE. Updating IE automatically could screw up a lot of businesses.

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                                Google Chrome Has the Most Effective Updater[^] OK, this will get many of you going... A paper published last week titled "Why Silent Updates Boost Security" showed that Google Chrome is the browser that has the most effective updating mechanism. Google Chrome's updater works automatically, it requires no user interaction and it can't be disabled from the interface.

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                                Gary Wheeler
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                                Now we know why every Google product stays in beta. They have a corporate policy against even the most basic configuration management principles. Of course, their 'silent updater' will remain so until someone hacks it and uses it to deliver a malicious payload...

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  I have nothing against setting it as the default. But we should be able to control it.

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                                  To be fair, you can, if you know what you're doing. The updater is fired up by a scheduled task - Windows provides a standard UI for modifying or removing those from the Control Panel. It's not like it's really hidden away somewhere. Heck, you could download the source and modify the updater to prompt you if you really want...

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                                    This may be ok for typical user, but not for me. I need to have full control as to what goes on. While having auto-update is nice, but it can break havoc as well. There are times I need to delay update for sometime, for example, at the time of release.

                                    Yusuf May I help you?

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                                    Kevin McFarlane
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                                    I agree. Google seem to be quite stubborn about this. I would have no objection to their setting it as a default, so long as I could override it. Even if it was only offered via something like FF's about:config that would be an improvement, although not ideal.

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                                      To be fair, you can, if you know what you're doing. The updater is fired up by a scheduled task - Windows provides a standard UI for modifying or removing those from the Control Panel. It's not like it's really hidden away somewhere. Heck, you could download the source and modify the updater to prompt you if you really want...

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                                      There should be a regular way of doing it though.

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                                        Now we know why every Google product stays in beta. They have a corporate policy against even the most basic configuration management principles. Of course, their 'silent updater' will remain so until someone hacks it and uses it to deliver a malicious payload...

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                        Now we know why every Google product stays in beta

                                        Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                        Of course, their 'silent updater' will remain so until someone hacks it and uses it to deliver a malicious payload...

                                        That will complete Beta testing and mark the start of ver 1.0 shipment. :doh:

                                        Yusuf May I help you?

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                                          There should be a regular way of doing it though.

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                                          Control Panel -> Scheduled Tasks -> Right-click, delete If such a thing as a "regular way" of disabling periodic tasks could be said to exist under Windows, this would be it. It's not like there's some "application updates" applet that all the other browsers hook into.

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