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    Brian C Hart
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    I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

    Regards,

    Dr. Brian Hart
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    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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      I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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      It's a Univ. custom, nothing unusual.

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      • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

        I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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        Have you ever noticed that people who hold doctorates but are not physicians will often use "Dr" in their correspondance, whereas real doctors use the more informative "MD" after their name? Of course I know a fellow who is an industrial trainer with a doctorate. His business card says "Dr Joe Blow, PhD". I think Dr. Blow works in the department of redundency department. Jim, a mere "master" ;)

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          It's a Univ. custom, nothing unusual.

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          Might be a custom in University, but does this look like University? The quality of information someone puts out matters more than some title, at least to me. I can't speak for others. :-D Brian

          Regards,

          Dr. Brian Hart
          drbrianhart343@gmail.com email
          LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-brian-hart-astrophysicist-veteran/

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          • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

            I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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            Maybe posting something here represents a kind of publication which can help them get tenure. Just a thought.

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            • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

              I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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              Chris Maunder
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              Hmm - you've touched on a personal gripe of mine Brian. I don't mind the 'Dr.' in front of the name, but I really can't stand when people write 'Joe Blow, PhD'. 'Dr' is no different than writing 'Mr' (but even that is now pretty antiquated), but slapping the 'PhD' after your name is a bit much. Just my 5c cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Might be a custom in University, but does this look like University? The quality of information someone puts out matters more than some title, at least to me. I can't speak for others. :-D Brian

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                Christian Graus
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                I dunno - I don't think it's such a big deal, although I agree the info matters more than the title, but then that probably because I don't have one. What *I* find funny is people who use MCP in their sig, I mean you only need to pass one scabby exam to get that, so it kinda means someone started MCSE or MCSD and couldn't pull it together or is still studying. So... MCP means either dropout or student from where I stand.:) Christian The content of this post is not necessarily the opinion of my yadda yadda yadda. To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.

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                  Hmm - you've touched on a personal gripe of mine Brian. I don't mind the 'Dr.' in front of the name, but I really can't stand when people write 'Joe Blow, PhD'. 'Dr' is no different than writing 'Mr' (but even that is now pretty antiquated), but slapping the 'PhD' after your name is a bit much. Just my 5c cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Juan Carlos Cobas
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                  Sorry Chris, but I don't really get what's wrong with the PhD after the name. :( You have to note that a PhD involves a lot of hard work (at least that was my case). I never append PhD to my name but IMHO I believe it's just a way to say that you're proud of it. It's nothing to do with "arrogance" though. cheers, Carlos

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                    Have you ever noticed that people who hold doctorates but are not physicians will often use "Dr" in their correspondance, whereas real doctors use the more informative "MD" after their name? Of course I know a fellow who is an industrial trainer with a doctorate. His business card says "Dr Joe Blow, PhD". I think Dr. Blow works in the department of redundency department. Jim, a mere "master" ;)

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                    I may be wrong but I believe that in order to be a "real" doctor you need to have a PhD. A physician without a PhD is not a "real" doctor, it's just a physician although they're vulgarly known and accepted as doctors. Carlos

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                    • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                      I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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                      Dr. Anybody: I guess they know how others would view them. Perhaps they are *insisting* on being known in all those various ways? Nobody, Ph.D: Sometimes, it still reminds me of those very old, used books one can buy by the weight on footpaths in India. Say, books published in 1920s and all. Invariably, the name of the author is followed by funny, unpredictable degrees. For example, MathematicsAuthor, BA! (BA always stood for Bachelor of Arts all the time!) As a school kid, I always wondered what the heck painting had to do with algebra? But more and more, I find this form on the latest American books on nutrition, exercise, new age psychology, etc. "You Can Fill In Some Very Long Supposedly Self-Help Title Here, OtherwiseUseless, Ph.D.," just as an example. What will both types do beyond a Ph. D.? What do they do today?

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                      • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                        I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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                        I guess it's because that's his correct title, earned by lots of hard work. One week people here don't like anonymous posters, the next week they don't like posters using their full names, title included. What gives ? :confused: Oh well, I suppose this is 'The Lounge'. X|

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                        • Brian C HartB Brian C Hart

                          I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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                          Geez, you guys actually set around thinking about this kind of stuff?:confused:

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                            Geez, you guys actually set around thinking about this kind of stuff?:confused:

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                            Nah, nothing in particular... Just throwing something to the dogs for the heck of it... This is, after all, the Lounge, as someone before me most astutely pointed out! Brian Hart

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                              Nah, nothing in particular... Just throwing something to the dogs for the heck of it... This is, after all, the Lounge, as someone before me most astutely pointed out! Brian Hart

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                                I dunno - I don't think it's such a big deal, although I agree the info matters more than the title, but then that probably because I don't have one. What *I* find funny is people who use MCP in their sig, I mean you only need to pass one scabby exam to get that, so it kinda means someone started MCSE or MCSD and couldn't pull it together or is still studying. So... MCP means either dropout or student from where I stand.:) Christian The content of this post is not necessarily the opinion of my yadda yadda yadda. To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.

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                                LOL I totally agree with that one :-D - Anders

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                                  I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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                                  I like something Dr Gui wrote in one of his articles in the MSDN library. "I'm not a real Dr. But I sure know a lot of herbal remedies." I am more impressed with someone that can explain their ideas so that they are easy to understand, and their ideas are new and interesting, not the title they hold. My Uncle just retired from Head of Robotics at Caimbridge. He was given a PHD while he held the position. Goes to show that not everyone has to earn them. Being friends with the right people also helps a lot to getting a lot of things in this world. :)

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                                    I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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                                    Jamie Nordmeyer
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                                    I would think that it's just second nature to them, kind of like putting your middle initial in your signiture. I doubt they mean to be arrogant. They're just so used to signing their name that way that they probably don't even think about it. Jamie Nordmeyer Portland, Oregon, USA

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                                      I dunno - I don't think it's such a big deal, although I agree the info matters more than the title, but then that probably because I don't have one. What *I* find funny is people who use MCP in their sig, I mean you only need to pass one scabby exam to get that, so it kinda means someone started MCSE or MCSD and couldn't pull it together or is still studying. So... MCP means either dropout or student from where I stand.:) Christian The content of this post is not necessarily the opinion of my yadda yadda yadda. To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.

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                                      Of course, it *could* simply signify that they took a test just to get the MCP, and they're still studying for their MCSE, but who can really tell?

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                                        Have you ever noticed that people who hold doctorates but are not physicians will often use "Dr" in their correspondance, whereas real doctors use the more informative "MD" after their name? Of course I know a fellow who is an industrial trainer with a doctorate. His business card says "Dr Joe Blow, PhD". I think Dr. Blow works in the department of redundency department. Jim, a mere "master" ;)

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                                        The word "Doctor" comes from the latin, meaning teacher. How many MDs do you know who teach? If I understand my history correctly, physicians started using the title Doctor much later than scholars. All that being true, times change and to most people today, Doctor means physician, so it's fairly pompous to use the title Doctor if you're not a physician, but then I went to Uni at a Quaker institution where many of my professors felt that even calling themselves Mister, much less Doctor or Professor, was an unseemly show of pride. If you have the stuff, you know it, your co-workers know it, and people reading your posts to "The Lounge" can tell from your carefully reasoned arguments that you have it. You don't need a title to prove it. I have been a Ph.D. and a professor for many years, and I still cringe when students call me by my title rather than my name.

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                                          I don't mean to be offensive, just confused :confused: Why is it people who have PhDs and post articles put 'Dr.' on their name. I think that is admirable, and certainly one wants to show off one's degree, but Christ :rolleyes: The first and last name is enough, no need to get all hoy-ploy and put 'Dr.' before your name. Just my 2¢... Brian

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                                          This is from memory, so I may be wrong! The classic example I think is "Dr Richard Grimes" - Ok, yeah he has written a number of books that have been helpful (although I do find his style not as clean as some others, but he does jump on topics quickly), but I believe his PhD is in Chemistry!! Okay, so he 'deserves' the Dr at the start of the name, but it is kind of false advertising when it is used on computer articles/books. Have fun, Paul Westcott.

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