Possibly the worst sci-fi I've read
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Well, all I can say is that in the entire time I was in the Phillipines I never heard anyone refer to themselves as a 'Tagalog'.
Say what you will, Stan, you are wrong about this. It is a fact that Tagalog describes an ethnic group. Fact.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Say what you will, Stan, you are wrong about this. It is a fact that Tagalog describes an ethnic group. Fact.
Fine. Find me any filipinos who actually refer to themselves as 'tagalogs' and I'll buy you a balut for breakfast. I'm actually pretty damn sure its a name we Europeans gave them because of the language they spoke. And, in any case, claiming that everyone who speaks tagalog is tagalog is the same as saying that everyone who speaks English is English. But, hey, I will throw that into the box I keep in my garage labeled: "facts completely unrelated to anything I give a shit about".
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
Say what you will, Stan, you are wrong about this. It is a fact that Tagalog describes an ethnic group. Fact.
Fine. Find me any filipinos who actually refer to themselves as 'tagalogs' and I'll buy you a balut for breakfast. I'm actually pretty damn sure its a name we Europeans gave them because of the language they spoke. And, in any case, claiming that everyone who speaks tagalog is tagalog is the same as saying that everyone who speaks English is English. But, hey, I will throw that into the box I keep in my garage labeled: "facts completely unrelated to anything I give a shit about".
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I keep in my garage labeled: "facts completely unrelated to anything I give a sh*t about
Awwww, I think your feelings are hurt. Is this always the way you react when you make a mistake?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I keep in my garage labeled: "facts completely unrelated to anything I give a sh*t about
Awwww, I think your feelings are hurt. Is this always the way you react when you make a mistake?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
:rolleyes: Whatever...
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
Say what you will, Stan, you are wrong about this. It is a fact that Tagalog describes an ethnic group. Fact.
Fine. Find me any filipinos who actually refer to themselves as 'tagalogs' and I'll buy you a balut for breakfast. I'm actually pretty damn sure its a name we Europeans gave them because of the language they spoke. And, in any case, claiming that everyone who speaks tagalog is tagalog is the same as saying that everyone who speaks English is English. But, hey, I will throw that into the box I keep in my garage labeled: "facts completely unrelated to anything I give a shit about".
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Find me any filipinos who actually refer to themselves as 'tagalogs' and I'll buy you a balut for breakfast.
I'm married to a 1st generation Pinay and her family calls themselves Illacano. Friends of their family who are Tagalog do in fact call themselves Tagalog.
Stan Shannon wrote:
And, in any case, claiming that everyone who speaks tagalog is tagalog is the same as saying that everyone who speaks English is English.
Correct. I speak Tagalog and Illacano like my wife but I am neither.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Don't tell me you read the whole book, I tried this one before I started using a reader, I took great pleasure in hurling it across the room. One of the things I miss about paper books, the really bad ones can be physically abused for being such crap.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Don't tell me you read the whole book, I tried this one before I started using a reader, I took great pleasure in hurling it across the room.
Yeah :(( I couldn't help myself, it was like watching a train wreck.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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It'll be under a pseudonym. I know you guys are good at hunting people down so I'll take no chances.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I know you guys are good at hunting people down so I'll take no chances.
Ve haf vays undt means. You haf reletifs in de olt country, maybe?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Find me any filipinos who actually refer to themselves as 'tagalogs' and I'll buy you a balut for breakfast.
I'm married to a 1st generation Pinay and her family calls themselves Illacano. Friends of their family who are Tagalog do in fact call themselves Tagalog.
Stan Shannon wrote:
And, in any case, claiming that everyone who speaks tagalog is tagalog is the same as saying that everyone who speaks English is English.
Correct. I speak Tagalog and Illacano like my wife but I am neither.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Chris Austin wrote:
I'm married to a 1st generation Pinay and her family calls themselves Illacano. Friends of their family who are Tagalog do in fact call themselves Tagalog.
Obviously it is completely normal for the name of a people and the language they speak to be used interchangeably. But I had never heard any of them self identify by that name. I was on the verge of asking a filipino girl to marry me at one point, but I just didn't think the culture shock of moving her to western Oklahoma would have been fair to her. Plus, she was just too incompatibly hot for a guy like me.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Tim Craig wrote:
I think you just got old and cranky and now you're just a humorless prude.
Some of us like to refer to that as 'growing up'. Maybe you should try it some time.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Some of us like to refer to that as 'growing up'.
Let's see, good little christian Stan watzes in bragging about having the clap three times no less (don't learn, do you?) and he thinks he's the country's moral compass. I have a drink with the humorous name of blow job and I'm the antichrist. You Jeffersonians sure have an odd value system. What's next? Knocking up your slave?
"Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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Tim Craig wrote:
After your experience in San Francisco on the way to the Phillipines, you were probably afraid to leave the ship.
San Diego. And considering that I caught the clap three times in the P.I. I had no trouble finding the beach.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
And considering that I caught the clap three times in the P.I. I had no trouble finding the beach.
It's those damned lady-boys over there. . .
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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It'll be under a pseudonym. I know you guys are good at hunting people down so I'll take no chances.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
A pseudonym is not big enough to hide behind - so we'll expect you to die, Mr Bond Maunder
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