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  • B bulg

    apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

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    Jim Crafton
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    Because it's *specifically* used in ObjectiveC, which predates Apple's use of it, actually ask Brad Cox about it. YES and NO clearly indicate you're in ObjectiveC land, not C, so it's just a way to separate the two. Also given the style in ObjectiveC to have sentence like readability, it's not that surprising.

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      Because it's *specifically* used in ObjectiveC, which predates Apple's use of it, actually ask Brad Cox about it. YES and NO clearly indicate you're in ObjectiveC land, not C, so it's just a way to separate the two. Also given the style in ObjectiveC to have sentence like readability, it's not that surprising.

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      Douglas Troy
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      Jim Crafton wrote:

      Also given the style in ObjectiveC to have sentence like readability, it's not that surprising.

      I believe it should be updated to reflect the almost hippie like status of the Apple culture:

      if (TotallyBogus(NSObjectDude))
      {
      throw BogusDude();
      }
      else
      {
      NSObjectDude.Cool = "Awesome";
      }


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      • B bulg

        apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

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        Paul M Watt
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        Are iYes and iNo supported? When we are forced to use those values I think we will have a problem.

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        • B bulg

          apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

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          dighn
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          "does anyone know why apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of \"YES\" and \"NO\" ?" Yes.

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          • B bulg

            apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

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            JimmyRopes
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            bulg wrote:

            apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

            Because they can. :-D

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            • B bulg

              apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

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              The Nightcoder
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              Well... in my CCBool function (a CBool replacement for VBScript), they can. I acknowledge True, T, Yes, Y and X as true, everything else as false. Or, to quoute a famous RFC... in good protocol design, you should be liberal in what you accept and pedantic about what you send (or something like that).

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              • B bulg

                apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

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                Luc Pattyn
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                what is wrong with "YES" and "NO"? or do you want "YES", "NO", "Cancel"? :)

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                • P Paul M Watt

                  Are iYes and iNo supported? When we are forced to use those values I think we will have a problem.

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                  Lost User
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                  As well as iDon'tKnow?

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                    As well as iDon'tKnow?

                    Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                    Jim Crafton
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                    I think that would be

                    if ( YES == [iDont know] )
                    {
                    NSLog( @"I don't know" );
                    }

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      It's a California thing; truth and falsehood are so, well, relative to one's life situation, you know?

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                      It's a California thing

                      In that case, I would have assumed that a bool would equate to "Gay" and "Straight". Marc

                      Will work for food. Interacx

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                      • L Luc Pattyn

                        what is wrong with "YES" and "NO"? or do you want "YES", "NO", "Cancel"? :)

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                        Hans Dietrich
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                        I think he wants  YES  NO  CANCEL  with an optional checkbox  

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                        . :)

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                        • B bulg

                          apple thinks they can get away with BOOL values of "YES" and "NO" ?

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                          Roger Wright
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                          Yes.

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                          • H Hans Dietrich

                            I think he wants  YES  NO  CANCEL  with an optional checkbox  

                            Do Not Ask Me Again
                            . :)

                            Best wishes, Hans


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                            bulg
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                            I want a bool to be true or false. Not Yes or No! It's Objective C not bloody Prolog!!! The only time I want something in my program to evaluate to a "Yes" is when someone buys the damn thing. >.< I also loathe the IB & IBOutlet crap. CS4 got it so much more right, that I wish I could use it for a suitable native language.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Gary Wheeler wrote:

                              It's a California thing

                              In that case, I would have assumed that a bool would equate to "Gay" and "Straight". Marc

                              Will work for food. Interacx

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Hmm... I would think sexuality would be better represented by a double whose value ranges between +1.0, exclusively heterosexual, and -1.0, exclusively homosexual (or vice versa).

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                                As well as iDon'tKnow?

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                                Gary R Wheeler
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                                I believe the mnemonic is iDunno, or possibly iGuess.

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                                • G Gary R Wheeler

                                  Hmm... I would think sexuality would be better represented by a double whose value ranges between +1.0, exclusively heterosexual, and -1.0, exclusively homosexual (or vice versa).

                                  Software Zen: delete this;
                                  Fold With Us![^]

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                                  Hmm... I would think sexuality would be better represented by a double whose value ranges between +1.0, exclusively heterosexual, and -1.0, exclusively homosexual (or vice versa).

                                  Funny you mention that. I was talking with someone who says that psychologists believe that it's rare that people are on one extreme or the other. I guess the theory is that the majority of people fall between -1 and 0 or 0 and 1, and some cross over 0. I don't know. I think most of psychology is BS, but I guess like anything, it has its uses, up to a point. Marc

                                  Will work for food. Interacx

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                                  • P Paul M Watt

                                    Are iYes and iNo supported? When we are forced to use those values I think we will have a problem.

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                                    Jeff Circeo
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                                    lol :-D

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