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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Yes, but whoever is paying must be in one of the category I mentioned.

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    dan sh
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    Being in a huge organization, atleast at my level(3 years of total experience) you do not get to know the reality. Suggestions do come along, but not sure about who actually does that. Sometimes it's like: "Hey I have a license for <XXX technology>. You must you must use it."

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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      Marc Clifton
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      Idiots. Marc

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        Idiots. Marc

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        dan sh
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        Aaah...thats the word. 5-ved. :thumbsup:

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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          Lost User
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          I decide what I want to use (and always have) but since we were bought by a large US company I have to run the licenses past the lawyers first. The GPL is a no-no obviously, but (fingers crossed) everything else should be OK (as long as we adhere to the license usage of course.) I have a lot of respect at work so when it comes to frameworks, etc. my boss lets me use my discretion and hasn't interfered in my decision for many, many years. In fact, the last time was when I was leaning towards Borland's OWL C++ framework back in the early 90's and he steered me into MFC because he didn't think Borland would be able to compete with MS for long. He was spot on. This is an interesting question and relevant to me personally right now as I am in the process of evaluating the Qt framework for future C++ development.

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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            Ray Cassick
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            A director of architecture has the final say over an overall architecture direction. We have a review process here that runs designs through a process to ensure that new solutions fit properly into the general architecture. Do I like it? I am very much on the fence right now because it creates some tension since I appear to be a 'dotnetter' in the land of Java folks, and I am not sure if I will ever be able to change that mindset, of if I even should try. I think they got stuck early on in the land of 'services mean java' and to try to effect a change at this point may end up being a 'no way', but I digress.


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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              I asked a similar question a while ago :) Anyway, in my case the correct answer would be: "history". The technology was picked when the development started, in 1997. Sure, we use new API calls and have switched to Unicode-only builds, but questions such as "WPF vs. Silverlight" make absolutelly no sense in this environment.

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              Single Step Debugger
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              Absolutely the same here: MFC, COM and hundreds of thousands rows of code. The project is started also in 1997 /AD/.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                Lost User
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                Usually not the right person.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                  Dan Neely
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                  When not dictated by the client I've generally been able to pick what I want to use (I'm mostly a solo dev); there's a formalized process for making major architectural decisions. I've never been involved in it before (all major decisions predated me); but will be involved to some extent in a few pending decisions on new stuff. Edit: I do have to convince my boss of the rightness of my decision (especially when spending money is involved), but haven't had any major issues there yet.

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                    Henry Minute
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                    I was just going to ask you for a long term loan. I read the first part of your post as "I have a fortune", then my eyes re-focused. I am so disappointed for us both.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                      RugbyLeague
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                      For software development it's me. If I like it and it works I'll use it.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Idiots. Marc

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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        Idiots.

                        Yes?

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                          I was just going to ask you for a long term loan. I read the first part of your post as "I have a fortune", then my eyes re-focused. I am so disappointed for us both.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                          Five of course.

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            I do, anyone and everyone may suggest and recommend a tool or technology and I have to evaluate it for relevance to our needs. There are some lovely too;s out there and I would dearly like to use some of them and then I look into the BENEFITS and the ROI and they tend to get dropped. I spend lots of time here and on blogs devouring commentaries on WPF and Silverlight to see if they are mature enough to move out of the sandbox. It gets to be fun sometimes and when there is clear benefit we move quickly into a new area.

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                              Chris Austin
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                              Me. But, it is driven by our customer's needs of course.

                              Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                                smcnulty2000
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                                Usually #2 when I'm at a client site. Sometimes #1. I work with whatever they've bought when I walk in the door. But that's my role. To use whatever they bought to get them the results they think they need. By the time I get there the damage is done. Its usually database or report software so cost and the software's reputation are the real drivers. At home the tech decision is 5, but I wouldn't call it rigorous.

                                _____________________________ Those who study history are doomed to watch others repeat it. -Scott M.

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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  I asked a similar question a while ago :) Anyway, in my case the correct answer would be: "history". The technology was picked when the development started, in 1997. Sure, we use new API calls and have switched to Unicode-only builds, but questions such as "WPF vs. Silverlight" make absolutelly no sense in this environment.

                                  Programming Blog utf8-cpp

                                  modified on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:09 PM

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                                  Ditto, but started a few years earlier, so there are still vestiges of 16-bit compatibility hacks hiding in dark corners...

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                                    1. My Boss, the general manager. When I first started one of my jobs was to start planning a website for the company. So he runs off to a meeting for a week and comes back to announce that he's hired someone to build the initial website for us. In PHP, on a Linux server. Two subjects I know nothing about and have no interest in learning. When we needed a new server, I recommended (against my better judgement) Win2003 Small Business Server as the best value for our buck. He hired an outside computer guy who recommended the same thing, and had him install it. But he instructed the guy not to install SQL Server, Exchange Server, IIS, or Sharepoint Server. Now he wonders why he can't share his Outlook calendar. Duh... When I installed a SCADA system to monitor and control our substations he directed me not to connect it to our internal network, so that it will be secure. Now he can't understand why he has to walk into the center office and look at the tiny laptop display (which is the only supervisory node we have) to see what's going on in our system. I tried to explain that our SonicWall routers (excellent products, by the way, though hard to configure and expensive) would do a fine job of keeping bad guys out, but he wasn't hearing any of that stuff. He reads magazines and knows all about this... :sigh:

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                      I decide it here along with my team manager. He is highly technical and still actively writes code every day, even after his 10+ years in the industry. I guess I'm lucky that way. :)

                                      It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        I have the fortune to test, evaluate and then pick the right technology for the right job for my product. But it may not be the case for many. (Obviously, I am talking about new projects here). So who dictates what technology need to be used for your products (technology I mean more in line with frameworks rather than generic areas like web/desktop): 1. Someone who have little or no programming experience. 2. Someone who has programming experience but no longer writes code. 3. Someone who writes code actively. 4. The programming team as a whole. 5. A rigorous method that involves test/prototype of different technologies. 6. No idea who does? or don't care. Of course "or" the above options with: 1. The person who picks the technology is supposed to be actively involved with the project.

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                                        hairy_hats
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                                        For my projects, I decide; for other IT projects, I influence. ;)

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                                          For my projects, I decide; for other IT projects, I influence. ;)

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                                          Marc Firth
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                                          Generally I do - but the director pushes me towards software sometimes (a good thing).

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