'EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES MUST BE SUBJECTED TO INVENTORY' - Pelosi said! [modified]
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John Carson wrote:
Pelosi is not a dictator. She is the duly elected Speaker of the House of Representatives
John, "dictator" is latin for "speaker." ;)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
:laugh: Serendipity if ever.
You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Right, just sit back and hope the change isn't coming when you have the government telling china its right around the corner.
and what are you doing other than posting here? I'm involved locally and nationally via several different groups and efforts to push back against much of the crap that is going on.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
I'm involved locally and nationally via several different groups and efforts to push back against much of the crap that is going on.
So you are a terrorist? j.k
Mike Gaskey wrote:
and what are you doing other than posting here?
Nothing, but I would like to do something.
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John Carson wrote:
The interpretation that she is proposing close monitoring of the daily lives of every resident strikes me as certainly false.
Later, you suggest that she realises that a blatant statement of her intention to gain more knowledge about how everyone in the U.S. lives would be political poison. I agree. CSS makes the mistake of assuming she is as stupid as he is. On the other hand, because her words are subject to interpretation and can be spun as wholly innocuous but do not have to be taken that way AND because we are talking about a far left politician who has already demonstrated that she believes in the government having great power over its citizens, the possibility that she means exactly what Mike thinks she means approaches nine nines, in my estimation.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
about how everyone in the U.S. lives would be political poison. I agree.
What difference does it make? She is poison and she is there.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
I'm involved locally and nationally via several different groups and efforts to push back against much of the crap that is going on.
So you are a terrorist? j.k
Mike Gaskey wrote:
and what are you doing other than posting here?
Nothing, but I would like to do something.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you are a terrorist?
nope, just involved.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Nothing, but I would like to do something.
here's your opportunity[^] - read, educate yourself then contact a local representative of this group.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you are a terrorist?
nope, just involved.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Nothing, but I would like to do something.
here's your opportunity[^] - read, educate yourself then contact a local representative of this group.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
here's your opportunity[^] - read, educate yourself then contact a local representative of this group.
It doesn't look that serious. I want to see something that can get media coverage and stage public events. If it doesn't make a splash or poke the bear then it isn't strong enough.
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"I do see this opportunity for climate change to be ... a game-changer," she said at Tsinghua. "It's a place where human rights — looking out for the needs of the poor in terms of climate change and healthy environment — are a human right." So in her definition human rights means welfare for the poor when business and the 'rich' are being screwed by carbon taxes (Cap & Trade and what have you) In answering a question from a student about how Pelosi was going to get Americans to cut back on their carbon emissions, the leading Democratic lawmaker said it was important to educate children on how to conserve energy Which means get children to believe all their lies and bullshit. "We have so much room for improvement," she said. "Every aspect of our lives must be subjected to an inventory ... of how we are taking responsibility." This makes my NWO conspiracy sound real to non-believers doesn't it? Think about how 20 years from now technology will be used against us. We probably don't have to wait that long. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hLcZ2jQ4mu4rd7XlB3hetiVn1qbAD98F32AG0[^]
modified on Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:36 AM
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So in her definition human rights means welfare for the poor when business and the 'rich' are being screwed by carbon taxes (Cap & Trade and what have you)
Human rights generally means protecting the poor from the ravages of the rich. What rights do the rich need defended ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Which means get children to believe all their lies and bullsh*t.
It means getting the US to stop being the main cause of wasted resources on the earth.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This makes my NWO conspiracy sound real to non-believers doesn't it?
Not even remotely.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So in her definition human rights means welfare for the poor when business and the 'rich' are being screwed by carbon taxes (Cap & Trade and what have you)
Human rights generally means protecting the poor from the ravages of the rich. What rights do the rich need defended ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Which means get children to believe all their lies and bullsh*t.
It means getting the US to stop being the main cause of wasted resources on the earth.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This makes my NWO conspiracy sound real to non-believers doesn't it?
Not even remotely.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
Human rights generally means protecting the poor from the ravages of the rich.
That's the stupidest fucking thing I've heard all fucking day goddammit. You are so fucked up, you don't even have a working brain. You are fucking dead minded moron. I want to see you beaten and dominated. :mad:
Christian Graus wrote:
It means getting the US to stop being the main cause of wasted resources on the earth.
You are the waste of mankind. You deserve to be thrown in the FURNACE! :mad:
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John Carson wrote:
She would know it is political poison.
You're with it, she doesn't need to hide it because so many people are with it. Its the transparency O was talking about
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You're with it, she doesn't need to hide it because so many people are with it.
I'm not and I don't think many people are. I am in favour of policies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but I don't see that that requires significant monitoring of households beyond what is already taking place (e.g., electricity companies already know how much electricity you use, and bill you accordingly; with carbon trading, the price of electricity will go up and so you'll pay more).
John Carson
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Christian Graus wrote:
Human rights generally means protecting the poor from the ravages of the rich.
That's the stupidest fucking thing I've heard all fucking day goddammit. You are so fucked up, you don't even have a working brain. You are fucking dead minded moron. I want to see you beaten and dominated. :mad:
Christian Graus wrote:
It means getting the US to stop being the main cause of wasted resources on the earth.
You are the waste of mankind. You deserve to be thrown in the FURNACE! :mad:
Ah, such eloquence. How can I hope to argue with such wit, such repartee ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I want to see you beaten and dominated
If that happens, it won't be an unemployed junkie who is scared to leave the house that is likely to 'dominate' me. Here's an interesting question. I am reasonably well off, and I would defend a view that human rights mostly means the rights of the poor, the wealthy being able to look after themselves. You're unlikely to ever see $1000 in one place, and you reject this view. How does that work ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are the waste of mankind. You deserve to be thrown in the FURNACE!
A waste of mankind ? hmm.... I assume by this you're actually completely ignorant of the fact that the US wastes more energy than anyone else on the planet ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You're with it, she doesn't need to hide it because so many people are with it.
I'm not and I don't think many people are. I am in favour of policies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but I don't see that that requires significant monitoring of households beyond what is already taking place (e.g., electricity companies already know how much electricity you use, and bill you accordingly; with carbon trading, the price of electricity will go up and so you'll pay more).
John Carson
You are nothing but a communist.
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Ah, such eloquence. How can I hope to argue with such wit, such repartee ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I want to see you beaten and dominated
If that happens, it won't be an unemployed junkie who is scared to leave the house that is likely to 'dominate' me. Here's an interesting question. I am reasonably well off, and I would defend a view that human rights mostly means the rights of the poor, the wealthy being able to look after themselves. You're unlikely to ever see $1000 in one place, and you reject this view. How does that work ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are the waste of mankind. You deserve to be thrown in the FURNACE!
A waste of mankind ? hmm.... I assume by this you're actually completely ignorant of the fact that the US wastes more energy than anyone else on the planet ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
I assume by this you're actually completely ignorant of the fact that the US wastes more energy than anyone else on the planet ?
while I hate to intervene in this enlightening conversation, I'd like to ask, so what?
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Ah, such eloquence. How can I hope to argue with such wit, such repartee ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I want to see you beaten and dominated
If that happens, it won't be an unemployed junkie who is scared to leave the house that is likely to 'dominate' me. Here's an interesting question. I am reasonably well off, and I would defend a view that human rights mostly means the rights of the poor, the wealthy being able to look after themselves. You're unlikely to ever see $1000 in one place, and you reject this view. How does that work ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are the waste of mankind. You deserve to be thrown in the FURNACE!
A waste of mankind ? hmm.... I assume by this you're actually completely ignorant of the fact that the US wastes more energy than anyone else on the planet ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
How does that work ?
I'm not fucking stupid like the fuckbrain you are. You are corrupted, you are sick, you are wrong, you are morally bankrupt, you have no empathy, you are clueless.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So in her definition human rights means welfare for the poor when business and the 'rich' are being screwed by carbon taxes (Cap & Trade and what have you)
Human rights generally means protecting the poor from the ravages of the rich. What rights do the rich need defended ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Which means get children to believe all their lies and bullsh*t.
It means getting the US to stop being the main cause of wasted resources on the earth.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This makes my NWO conspiracy sound real to non-believers doesn't it?
Not even remotely.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
It means getting the US to stop being the main cause of wasted resources on the earth.
Take a look at your northern neighbor. They're in second place and about to pass us - yet I don't think I have ever heard you say a word about them.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Christian Graus wrote:
I assume by this you're actually completely ignorant of the fact that the US wastes more energy than anyone else on the planet ?
while I hate to intervene in this enlightening conversation, I'd like to ask, so what?
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
So, if 3% of the worlds population uses 25% of the worlds energy, then that means that 3% is more responsible than anyone else for wasted resources. I'm not suggesting you're not allowed to use it, I am saying that any attempt to get people to conserve energy is best directed at the people who waste the most.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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Christian Graus wrote:
How does that work ?
I'm not fucking stupid like the fuckbrain you are. You are corrupted, you are sick, you are wrong, you are morally bankrupt, you have no empathy, you are clueless.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm not f***ing stupid like the fuckbrain you are. You are corrupted, you are sick, you are wrong, you are morally bankrupt, you have no empathy, you are clueless.
Are you taking drugs today, or is this your base level of cluelessness ? I have MORE empathy than you, that's what we just proved. The rest of this is just BS, I assume this means you can't actually defend your views or address anything I have said.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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Christian Graus wrote:
It means getting the US to stop being the main cause of wasted resources on the earth.
Take a look at your northern neighbor. They're in second place and about to pass us - yet I don't think I have ever heard you say a word about them.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Papua New Guinea ? Or do you mean China ? China is the biggest problem the world has today, in terms of resources. No question about that in my mind. China and India are the main reasons the world is screwed, but the main reason is, they have a lot of people, they have money, and they want the same standard of living as we have. I can see why they'd feel that way. Personally, I try to buy 'fair trade' goods whenever I can, and I would accept a drop in my standard of living, in order for people elsewhere to be able to live better. However, I don't see any way to convince China that they don't deserve coal fired power stations, and so long as they keep building them, like I said, we're probably all screwed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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So, if 3% of the worlds population uses 25% of the worlds energy, then that means that 3% is more responsible than anyone else for wasted resources. I'm not suggesting you're not allowed to use it, I am saying that any attempt to get people to conserve energy is best directed at the people who waste the most.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
So, if 3% of the worlds population uses 25% of the worlds energy, then that means that 3% is more responsible than anyone else for wasted resources. I'm not suggesting you're not allowed to use it, I am saying that any attempt to get people to conserve energy is best directed at the people who waste the most.
Well, you're acutally accusing me & mine of wasting something. If I choose to turn my air conditioner to the coolest level possible and open my patio door so I can feel a chill while grilling burgers - whose business is it? I'm paying for it and can do anything I damn well please with it.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm not f***ing stupid like the fuckbrain you are. You are corrupted, you are sick, you are wrong, you are morally bankrupt, you have no empathy, you are clueless.
Are you taking drugs today, or is this your base level of cluelessness ? I have MORE empathy than you, that's what we just proved. The rest of this is just BS, I assume this means you can't actually defend your views or address anything I have said.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
I have MORE empathy than you, that's what we just proved.
GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT EMPATHY IS! YOU ARE A MUTILATED SHELL OF A HUMAN. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A DISPOSABLE PIECE OF TRASH
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Christian Graus wrote:
So, if 3% of the worlds population uses 25% of the worlds energy, then that means that 3% is more responsible than anyone else for wasted resources. I'm not suggesting you're not allowed to use it, I am saying that any attempt to get people to conserve energy is best directed at the people who waste the most.
Well, you're acutally accusing me & mine of wasting something. If I choose to turn my air conditioner to the coolest level possible and open my patio door so I can feel a chill while grilling burgers - whose business is it? I'm paying for it and can do anything I damn well please with it.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
I'm paying for it and can do anything I damn well please with it.
Damn right! Who does that son of a bitch think he is! :mad:
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So, if 3% of the worlds population uses 25% of the worlds energy, then that means that 3% is more responsible than anyone else for wasted resources. I'm not suggesting you're not allowed to use it, I am saying that any attempt to get people to conserve energy is best directed at the people who waste the most.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
You are a descendant of unwanted garbage thrown away on a godforsaken piece of shrived up land. Your defective genes come from criminals and insane people discarded from society. What a deformed piece of waste you are!