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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    I suspect your pay cut will total over 50% by the end of the year.

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    Christian Graus
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    It's possible. I can afford that, if I need to. Like I said, I worry more for people who don't have the wiggle room that we do.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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    • S Stan Shannon

      Thank God I get paid in Australian dollars.

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      ROTFL. The USD is still worth more than the AUD. If you were indexed to the AUD, you'd have got a shock, a year ago it was worse than it is now, close to equity. So, it's been a roller coaster. I just hoped it would sit at 60 for a while, and didn't expect it to go above 75.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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      • C Christian Graus

        It's possible. I can afford that, if I need to. Like I said, I worry more for people who don't have the wiggle room that we do.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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        CaptainSeeSharp
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I worry more for people who don't have the wiggle room that we do.

        How 'bout you paypal me some of that monopoly money then? Unless, you are a greedy liar.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Christian Graus wrote:

          I worry more for people who don't have the wiggle room that we do.

          How 'bout you paypal me some of that monopoly money then? Unless, you are a greedy liar.

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          Christian Graus
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          I give money to people who can't help their situation, such as people in the third world. I don't give it to people who live in the same system I do and fail to make something of themselves.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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          • C Christian Graus

            I give money to people who can't help their situation, such as people in the third world. I don't give it to people who live in the same system I do and fail to make something of themselves.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            such as people in the third world.

            So you give your money to crack heads and prostitutes?

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            • C Christian Graus

              ROTFL. The USD is still worth more than the AUD. If you were indexed to the AUD, you'd have got a shock, a year ago it was worse than it is now, close to equity. So, it's been a roller coaster. I just hoped it would sit at 60 for a while, and didn't expect it to go above 75.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              didn't expect it to go above 75.

              You don't expect a lot of things that are coming your way.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Christian Graus wrote:

                such as people in the third world.

                So you give your money to crack heads and prostitutes?

                Wake Up Call[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                And there's another example of how screwed up your world view is.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  didn't expect it to go above 75.

                  You don't expect a lot of things that are coming your way.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Yes, these are uncertain times, and most of that is due to the fiscal mismanagement of the US. But, like I said, thankfully it doesn't actually hurt me, it's more of a PITA.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    So, the Australian dollar bought 60 US cents at the start of the year. I am paid in USD. It went to 70 cents when Obama started printing monopoly money for the bailouts. As of this morning ( post GM, I guess ), it's at 82 cents. My wage has dropped by 25% since the start of the year.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                    Open a US bank account, stick it in there and transfer big chunks when the rate is good. Also means you could spend that money when you travel over there and not pay two conversion rates. An anonymous Swiss account would also be kind of cool

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      And there's another example of how screwed up your world view is.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      And there's another example of how screwed up your world view is.

                      I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases. I know how they act. They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

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                        Open a US bank account, stick it in there and transfer big chunks when the rate is good. Also means you could spend that money when you travel over there and not pay two conversion rates. An anonymous Swiss account would also be kind of cool

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Yeah, I was actually considering that, especially as I don't actually need money on a month to month basis. I should do that in July, I perhaps should have done that last week. The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          And there's another example of how screwed up your world view is.

                          I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases. I know how they act. They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

                          Wake Up Call[^]

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                          Christian Graus
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                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases

                          Well, how could you not ?

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                          They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

                          Which is why I am not in favour of massive welfare in my country. that's also why you can't have my money, by definition of where you live, begging makes you exactly what you're describing ( I know you were not serious, but, I am using the example ). My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat, and not because of laziness. Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases

                            Well, how could you not ?

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

                            Which is why I am not in favour of massive welfare in my country. that's also why you can't have my money, by definition of where you live, begging makes you exactly what you're describing ( I know you were not serious, but, I am using the example ). My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat, and not because of laziness. Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat,

                            If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case. If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

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                            Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

                            That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              ROTFL. The USD is still worth more than the AUD. If you were indexed to the AUD, you'd have got a shock, a year ago it was worse than it is now, close to equity. So, it's been a roller coaster. I just hoped it would sit at 60 for a while, and didn't expect it to go above 75.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                              Stan Shannon
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                              It looks like this, right? [^] My boss said I should save it up so I could move to Australia when I retire...

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                Yeah, I was actually considering that, especially as I don't actually need money on a month to month basis. I should do that in July, I perhaps should have done that last week. The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

                                Talk to a good accountant or maybe a financial planner, I'm sure there are many "opportunities" to reduce your tax :)

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat,

                                  If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case. If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

                                  That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

                                  Wake Up Call[^]

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case

                                  That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to. More people should grow at least some food.

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                                  If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

                                  Wow. My money is not given to poor people, it is used to fund aid such as food, seeds, sources of water, to help people to be able to feed themselves.

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                                  That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

                                  Not really. I mean, it wasn't something I was ever asked to vote on. I tend to buy locally made, even though it costs more, as I've said before. Voting with your wallet is the only choice we get in all of this.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                  • S Stan Shannon

                                    It looks like this, right? [^] My boss said I should save it up so I could move to Australia when I retire...

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Our money is indeed a lot prettier than yours. I assume this is because it feels insecure, the greenback has nothing to prove.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      My wage has dropped by 25% since the start of the year.

                                      Oh bummer! Looks like shit is starting to hit the fan for you after all.

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                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      Oh bummer! Looks like sh*t is starting to hit the fan for you after all.

                                      You may recall that you once ask this forum why "the government" couldn't just print money (and thereby solve all the problems). Some of us explained why not ... and now history-as-you're-experiencing it is demonstrating why not.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

                                        Talk to a good accountant or maybe a financial planner, I'm sure there are many "opportunities" to reduce your tax :)

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                                          Well they never got Skase!

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