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  • C Christian Graus

    And there's another example of how screwed up your world view is.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    And there's another example of how screwed up your world view is.

    I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases. I know how they act. They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

    Wake Up Call[^]

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      Open a US bank account, stick it in there and transfer big chunks when the rate is good. Also means you could spend that money when you travel over there and not pay two conversion rates. An anonymous Swiss account would also be kind of cool

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      Yeah, I was actually considering that, especially as I don't actually need money on a month to month basis. I should do that in July, I perhaps should have done that last week. The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        And there's another example of how screwed up your world view is.

        I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases. I know how they act. They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

        Wake Up Call[^]

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        Christian Graus
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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases

        Well, how could you not ?

        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

        Which is why I am not in favour of massive welfare in my country. that's also why you can't have my money, by definition of where you live, begging makes you exactly what you're describing ( I know you were not serious, but, I am using the example ). My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat, and not because of laziness. Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          I have experience with hopelessly broke welfare cases

          Well, how could you not ?

          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          They will steal from you, lie to you, and they do drugs. They are hopeless, they feel hopeless, and they don't care. Give them money and they will take it, and expect more.

          Which is why I am not in favour of massive welfare in my country. that's also why you can't have my money, by definition of where you live, begging makes you exactly what you're describing ( I know you were not serious, but, I am using the example ). My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat, and not because of laziness. Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat,

          If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case. If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

          Christian Graus wrote:

          Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

          That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

          Wake Up Call[^]

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          • C Christian Graus

            ROTFL. The USD is still worth more than the AUD. If you were indexed to the AUD, you'd have got a shock, a year ago it was worse than it is now, close to equity. So, it's been a roller coaster. I just hoped it would sit at 60 for a while, and didn't expect it to go above 75.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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            Stan Shannon
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            It looks like this, right? [^] My boss said I should save it up so I could move to Australia when I retire...

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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              Yeah, I was actually considering that, especially as I don't actually need money on a month to month basis. I should do that in July, I perhaps should have done that last week. The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

              Talk to a good accountant or maybe a financial planner, I'm sure there are many "opportunities" to reduce your tax :)

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat,

                If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case. If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

                That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

                Wake Up Call[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case

                That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to. More people should grow at least some food.

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                If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

                Wow. My money is not given to poor people, it is used to fund aid such as food, seeds, sources of water, to help people to be able to feed themselves.

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                That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

                Not really. I mean, it wasn't something I was ever asked to vote on. I tend to buy locally made, even though it costs more, as I've said before. Voting with your wallet is the only choice we get in all of this.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  My wage has dropped by 25% since the start of the year.

                  Oh bummer! Looks like shit is starting to hit the fan for you after all.

                  Wake Up Call[^]

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                  Ilion
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                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  Oh bummer! Looks like sh*t is starting to hit the fan for you after all.

                  You may recall that you once ask this forum why "the government" couldn't just print money (and thereby solve all the problems). Some of us explained why not ... and now history-as-you're-experiencing it is demonstrating why not.

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                    It looks like this, right? [^] My boss said I should save it up so I could move to Australia when I retire...

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Our money is indeed a lot prettier than yours. I assume this is because it feels insecure, the greenback has nothing to prove.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

                      Talk to a good accountant or maybe a financial planner, I'm sure there are many "opportunities" to reduce your tax :)

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                      Christian Graus
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                      My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                        My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                        Well they never got Skase!

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                          Well they never got Skase!

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                          Christian Graus
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                          LOL - that is true. I don't have that sort of money tho.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                            Chris Austin
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste.

                            I have no clues about your laws but could it be as simple as "disclose everything"? I've got an offshore account or two. But, I've always disclosed everything about the income and it's sources to the 'tax man'. And, I tend to depend on an attorney far more than my accountant for making sure everything is up to code.

                            Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste.

                              I have no clues about your laws but could it be as simple as "disclose everything"? I've got an offshore account or two. But, I've always disclosed everything about the income and it's sources to the 'tax man'. And, I tend to depend on an attorney far more than my accountant for making sure everything is up to code.

                              Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                              Christian Graus
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                              The question is, how do they tax it in AUD ? Until I convert it, the question of conversion rates is what I think could be messy.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case

                                That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to. More people should grow at least some food.

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

                                Wow. My money is not given to poor people, it is used to fund aid such as food, seeds, sources of water, to help people to be able to feed themselves.

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

                                Not really. I mean, it wasn't something I was ever asked to vote on. I tend to buy locally made, even though it costs more, as I've said before. Voting with your wallet is the only choice we get in all of this.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                                How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                                  How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                  That's why God invented wives.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                                    How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                                    He pays his servants with food.

                                    Wake Up Call[^]

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                                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                                      How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                      That's why God invented wives.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      That's why God invented wives.

                                      I wish he had done a better job on my wife. I can't even keep up with the weeds on my 1.5 acres and my job is less than 15 miles away. I'd be happy to grow a garden but I can't eat all the stuff my retired neighbors dump on us as it is.

                                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                                        How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                        He lives in Tasmania where everything is a bit slow. He can spend a month the US and only be away for two days of Tasmania time

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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                          He lives in Tasmania where everything is a bit slow. He can spend a month the US and only be away for two days of Tasmania time

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                                          Oh, Ok. That makes sense then.

                                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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