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  • C Christian Graus

    ROTFL. The USD is still worth more than the AUD. If you were indexed to the AUD, you'd have got a shock, a year ago it was worse than it is now, close to equity. So, it's been a roller coaster. I just hoped it would sit at 60 for a while, and didn't expect it to go above 75.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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    Stan Shannon
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    It looks like this, right? [^] My boss said I should save it up so I could move to Australia when I retire...

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      Yeah, I was actually considering that, especially as I don't actually need money on a month to month basis. I should do that in July, I perhaps should have done that last week. The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

      Talk to a good accountant or maybe a financial planner, I'm sure there are many "opportunities" to reduce your tax :)

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        Christian Graus wrote:

        My point is, you don't seem to realise how there are places where people plain cannot eat,

        If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case. If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

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        Or even how your own prosperity is based on their poverty.

        That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

        Wake Up Call[^]

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        Christian Graus
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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case

        That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to. More people should grow at least some food.

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        If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

        Wow. My money is not given to poor people, it is used to fund aid such as food, seeds, sources of water, to help people to be able to feed themselves.

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        That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

        Not really. I mean, it wasn't something I was ever asked to vote on. I tend to buy locally made, even though it costs more, as I've said before. Voting with your wallet is the only choice we get in all of this.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Christian Graus wrote:

          My wage has dropped by 25% since the start of the year.

          Oh bummer! Looks like shit is starting to hit the fan for you after all.

          Wake Up Call[^]

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          Ilion
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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          Oh bummer! Looks like sh*t is starting to hit the fan for you after all.

          You may recall that you once ask this forum why "the government" couldn't just print money (and thereby solve all the problems). Some of us explained why not ... and now history-as-you're-experiencing it is demonstrating why not.

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          • S Stan Shannon

            It looks like this, right? [^] My boss said I should save it up so I could move to Australia when I retire...

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            Christian Graus
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            Our money is indeed a lot prettier than yours. I assume this is because it feels insecure, the greenback has nothing to prove.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              The only issue I see is, how do I account for that to the tax office ?

              Talk to a good accountant or maybe a financial planner, I'm sure there are many "opportunities" to reduce your tax :)

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              Christian Graus
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              My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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              • C Christian Graus

                My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                Well they never got Skase!

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                  Well they never got Skase!

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                  Christian Graus
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                  LOL - that is true. I don't have that sort of money tho.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste. I'm too pretty to go to jail.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                    Chris Austin
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste.

                    I have no clues about your laws but could it be as simple as "disclose everything"? I've got an offshore account or two. But, I've always disclosed everything about the income and it's sources to the 'tax man'. And, I tend to depend on an attorney far more than my accountant for making sure everything is up to code.

                    Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                    • C Chris Austin

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      My accountant is the one who suggested this, but more for a single lump sum I will get in a few months. He's a little cavalier for my taste.

                      I have no clues about your laws but could it be as simple as "disclose everything"? I've got an offshore account or two. But, I've always disclosed everything about the income and it's sources to the 'tax man'. And, I tend to depend on an attorney far more than my accountant for making sure everything is up to code.

                      Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                      Christian Graus
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                      The question is, how do they tax it in AUD ? Until I convert it, the question of conversion rates is what I think could be messy.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        If I couldn't eat I would grow a garden, in fact I have one full of potatoes just in case

                        That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to. More people should grow at least some food.

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        If there was a drought how are they going to spend that money on food then huh?

                        Wow. My money is not given to poor people, it is used to fund aid such as food, seeds, sources of water, to help people to be able to feed themselves.

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        That is called globalization and free market. You supported your politicians when that was happening.

                        Not really. I mean, it wasn't something I was ever asked to vote on. I tend to buy locally made, even though it costs more, as I've said before. Voting with your wallet is the only choice we get in all of this.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                        How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                          How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                          That's why God invented wives.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                            How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            He pays his servants with food.

                            Wake Up Call[^]

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                              That's why God invented wives.

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                              Stan Shannon
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                              Oakman wrote:

                              That's why God invented wives.

                              I wish he had done a better job on my wife. I can't even keep up with the weeds on my 1.5 acres and my job is less than 15 miles away. I'd be happy to grow a garden but I can't eat all the stuff my retired neighbors dump on us as it is.

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              • S Stan Shannon

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                                How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                He lives in Tasmania where everything is a bit slow. He can spend a month the US and only be away for two days of Tasmania time

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                  He lives in Tasmania where everything is a bit slow. He can spend a month the US and only be away for two days of Tasmania time

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                                  Stan Shannon
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                                  Oh, Ok. That makes sense then.

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  • S Stan Shannon

                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    That's the smartest thing I've heard you say. I have 11 acres, and we grow enough fruit and veg, as well as raising lamb and chickens, that we could feed ourselves if we needed to.

                                    How do you manage to tend all of that while spending so much time in the US?

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Honestly, I do a poor job at the moment. I have several beds in decent order, a lot that's rough, and some that just needs work. I hope to turn that around over winter this year.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                      He pays his servants with food.

                                      Wake Up Call[^]

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      That's kind of true. My father in law does a lot of work, and he takes his share of the crop in return. If there was no way to buy food tomorrow, I could feed my family and his, just by putting more time into what I have already built up.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                        Honestly, I do a poor job at the moment. I have several beds in decent order, a lot that's rough, and some that just needs work. I hope to turn that around over winter this year.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                        Chris Austin
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                                        How are your peaches doing? This year I finally followed the advice of my wife's uncle, a commerical farmer, about growing them with little to no chemicals. It looks like I'll be canning several pounds after I thoroughly gorge myself. He has also helped considerably with the squash; by the end of the summer my neighbors will be sick of squash.

                                        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          So, the Australian dollar bought 60 US cents at the start of the year. I am paid in USD. It went to 70 cents when Obama started printing monopoly money for the bailouts. As of this morning ( post GM, I guess ), it's at 82 cents. My wage has dropped by 25% since the start of the year.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.

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                                          Hey Christian, you work form home, you spend 4,000 dollars on a desk and chair, you regularly take your family to the disney, as well as flying all round the world tyo rock concerts, and you have a shed load of spare cash to put into shares. There are some peoplel here, not me since I am also reasonably well off, that might find your bitching about 'how little money you earn' an insulit. Basically, wind your neck in and stop gloating.

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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