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    Rob has quit CP; I'm pretty close to walking; a number of folks have said that they don't come here any more because of the insane hatred of this forum by Heinze and Hailey, and the kind of response it garners from the rest of us. I said once that I was considering starting another website called the Soapbox. And Rob just sent me an email suggesting I do so. If I did, it would be set up so anyone could read it, only members coud post; the terms of service would specifically ban being a link monkey and personal attacks, and Ilion and CSS would never be allowed to join. Is there any interest in my doing this?

    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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      Rob has quit CP; I'm pretty close to walking; a number of folks have said that they don't come here any more because of the insane hatred of this forum by Heinze and Hailey, and the kind of response it garners from the rest of us. I said once that I was considering starting another website called the Soapbox. And Rob just sent me an email suggesting I do so. If I did, it would be set up so anyone could read it, only members coud post; the terms of service would specifically ban being a link monkey and personal attacks, and Ilion and CSS would never be allowed to join. Is there any interest in my doing this?

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

      modified on Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:37 PM

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      Too bad we can't have both stickiness and responses.

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        Rob has quit CP; I'm pretty close to walking; a number of folks have said that they don't come here any more because of the insane hatred of this forum by Heinze and Hailey, and the kind of response it garners from the rest of us. I said once that I was considering starting another website called the Soapbox. And Rob just sent me an email suggesting I do so. If I did, it would be set up so anyone could read it, only members coud post; the terms of service would specifically ban being a link monkey and personal attacks, and Ilion and CSS would never be allowed to join. Is there any interest in my doing this?

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

        modified on Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:37 PM

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        I would.

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          Rob has quit CP; I'm pretty close to walking; a number of folks have said that they don't come here any more because of the insane hatred of this forum by Heinze and Hailey, and the kind of response it garners from the rest of us. I said once that I was considering starting another website called the Soapbox. And Rob just sent me an email suggesting I do so. If I did, it would be set up so anyone could read it, only members coud post; the terms of service would specifically ban being a link monkey and personal attacks, and Ilion and CSS would never be allowed to join. Is there any interest in my doing this?

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

          modified on Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:37 PM

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          I can muster some hosting assistance.

          Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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            Rob has quit CP; I'm pretty close to walking; a number of folks have said that they don't come here any more because of the insane hatred of this forum by Heinze and Hailey, and the kind of response it garners from the rest of us. I said once that I was considering starting another website called the Soapbox. And Rob just sent me an email suggesting I do so. If I did, it would be set up so anyone could read it, only members coud post; the terms of service would specifically ban being a link monkey and personal attacks, and Ilion and CSS would never be allowed to join. Is there any interest in my doing this?

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

            modified on Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:37 PM

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            yes

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              Rob has quit CP; I'm pretty close to walking; a number of folks have said that they don't come here any more because of the insane hatred of this forum by Heinze and Hailey, and the kind of response it garners from the rest of us. I said once that I was considering starting another website called the Soapbox. And Rob just sent me an email suggesting I do so. If I did, it would be set up so anyone could read it, only members coud post; the terms of service would specifically ban being a link monkey and personal attacks, and Ilion and CSS would never be allowed to join. Is there any interest in my doing this?

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

              modified on Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:37 PM

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              ...if link spamming is something that truly isn't appropriate then delete the offending messages. But Ilion has been link spamming for months now without any particular complaint so I'm kind of wondering why today is suddenly so different? Ilion won't (or can't) rationally discuss evolution - is this really a surprise? CSS has also pretty much been behaving himself as far as I've seen, no profound vulgarity or anything like that. He's a conspiracy nut, big whoop. But this personal attack criteria thing is just a wee bit hypocritical, Jon, because on multiple multiple occasions you personally have called them unemployed, dumb, mentally ill, etc. Really, this forum is not that bad. It's not like we have a bunch of /b/tards or YAHOO MESSAGE BOARD ALL CAPSERS cluttering up the place. But if we really are moving, I would come along, I do like the milieu.

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                ...if link spamming is something that truly isn't appropriate then delete the offending messages. But Ilion has been link spamming for months now without any particular complaint so I'm kind of wondering why today is suddenly so different? Ilion won't (or can't) rationally discuss evolution - is this really a surprise? CSS has also pretty much been behaving himself as far as I've seen, no profound vulgarity or anything like that. He's a conspiracy nut, big whoop. But this personal attack criteria thing is just a wee bit hypocritical, Jon, because on multiple multiple occasions you personally have called them unemployed, dumb, mentally ill, etc. Really, this forum is not that bad. It's not like we have a bunch of /b/tards or YAHOO MESSAGE BOARD ALL CAPSERS cluttering up the place. But if we really are moving, I would come along, I do like the milieu.

                - F

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                Fisticuffs wrote:

                Ilion won't (or can't) rationally discuss evolution - is this really a surprise?

                Just because he's predictable doesn't make him palatable.

                Fisticuffs wrote:

                you personally have called them unemployed, dumb, mentally ill, etc.

                I've just been reciting the facts ;) Of course you're right. I don't think there's been anyone who hasn't tried to hand back to the two of them what they love to hand out. Which doesn't excuse me in the slightest. Indeed, it was giving an excuse for the meaner side of my personality to come out that caused me first to start ignoring all their responses to my posts and to stop responding to theirs. But the anger and distaste I feel when I bump into one of their posts is all the more reason to move on.

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                I would come along, I do like the milieu.

                Good.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                  I would.

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                  Looks like some members have taken a dislike to your Lounge postings. Can't think why, they were not in violation of any CP rules.

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                    I can muster some hosting assistance.

                    Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                    Chris Austin wrote:

                    I can muster some hosting assistance.

                    Good. we'll talk further

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                      Chris Austin wrote:

                      I can muster some hosting assistance.

                      Good. we'll talk further

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                      I can provide coding assistance if you need it...

                      If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                        Looks like some members have taken a dislike to your Lounge postings. Can't think why, they were not in violation of any CP rules.

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                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                        Hi Rich :) Been a while my friend, how have you been faring? To be frank, I don't give a hoot anymore whether people like my posts or not. I know what I post and I know who I am and what I represent, if they don't like that, well, too bad.

                        If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                          Hi Rich :) Been a while my friend, how have you been faring? To be frank, I don't give a hoot anymore whether people like my posts or not. I know what I post and I know who I am and what I represent, if they don't like that, well, too bad.

                          If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                          Since I couldn't reply to the 'shots fired' post let me say it here. You're a good man. (By my reckoning at least :) ) [Edited for a stupid typo :) ]

                          Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                            I can provide coding assistance if you need it...

                            If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                            Could be interesting. My hosts accounts are 100% linux/apache. So, if you and Jon decide to do the IIS/.net stack I might not be able to host it. I'll see what I can do anyway.

                            Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                              Since I couldn't reply to the 'shots fired' post let me say it here. You're a good man. (By my reckoning at least :) ) [Edited for a stupid typo :) ]

                              Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

                              modified on Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:24 PM

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                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                              :bows: Thank you sir, though I know not the reason but I am privileged by the high praise!

                              If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                Hi Rich :) Been a while my friend, how have you been faring? To be frank, I don't give a hoot anymore whether people like my posts or not. I know what I post and I know who I am and what I represent, if they don't like that, well, too bad.

                                If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                Faring OK :thumbsup: Regarding CP, shame, it was once a great site. Gone downhill somewhat in recent months. Makes me wonder if Maunder has taken his eye off the ball, and coupled with that, those external blogs now being converted into CP articles, is in my opinion, making the offerings from CP appear sloppy and unprofessional.

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                                  Could be interesting. My hosts accounts are 100% linux/apache. So, if you and Jon decide to do the IIS/.net stack I might not be able to host it. I'll see what I can do anyway.

                                  Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                  I'll be more than happy to help that way too, though I'm a bit rusty with PHP. Besides, isn't there a mod-asp for apache?

                                  If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                    Faring OK :thumbsup: Regarding CP, shame, it was once a great site. Gone downhill somewhat in recent months. Makes me wonder if Maunder has taken his eye off the ball, and coupled with that, those external blogs now being converted into CP articles, is in my opinion, making the offerings from CP appear sloppy and unprofessional.

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                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    Faring OK Thumbs Up

                                    Excellent.

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    Regarding CP, shame, it was once a great site.

                                    Still is. Though the vitriol has been turned up a couple of notches to be honest.

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    Makes me wonder if Maunder has taken his eye off the ball

                                    I'm sure he's gnashing and grinding his teeth because he's so busy. And there's that hamster lawsuit too don't forget!

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    those external blogs now being converted into CP articles, is in my opinion, making the offerings from CP appear sloppy and unprofessional. Quote Selected Text

                                    I must have been living under a rock for some time, what are you talking about?

                                    If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      Faring OK Thumbs Up

                                      Excellent.

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      Regarding CP, shame, it was once a great site.

                                      Still is. Though the vitriol has been turned up a couple of notches to be honest.

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      Makes me wonder if Maunder has taken his eye off the ball

                                      I'm sure he's gnashing and grinding his teeth because he's so busy. And there's that hamster lawsuit too don't forget!

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      those external blogs now being converted into CP articles, is in my opinion, making the offerings from CP appear sloppy and unprofessional. Quote Selected Text

                                      I must have been living under a rock for some time, what are you talking about?

                                      If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                      I must have been living under a rock for some time, what are you talking about?

                                      Don't get me wrong, some "Technical Blogs" are excellent but most, IMO alas are not. See here http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/BlogFeed.aspx[^] and here http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/BlogArticleList.aspx[^]

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                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                        I must have been living under a rock for some time, what are you talking about?

                                        Don't get me wrong, some "Technical Blogs" are excellent but most, IMO alas are not. See here http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/BlogFeed.aspx[^] and here http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/BlogArticleList.aspx[^]

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                                        Interesting. I did not know that they've been put into effect. I have been living under a rock!

                                        If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                          Rob has quit CP; I'm pretty close to walking; a number of folks have said that they don't come here any more because of the insane hatred of this forum by Heinze and Hailey, and the kind of response it garners from the rest of us. I said once that I was considering starting another website called the Soapbox. And Rob just sent me an email suggesting I do so. If I did, it would be set up so anyone could read it, only members coud post; the terms of service would specifically ban being a link monkey and personal attacks, and Ilion and CSS would never be allowed to join. Is there any interest in my doing this?

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

                                          modified on Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:37 PM

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                                          I worry that CP in general is fractured. How would you stop anyone from joining your soapbox ? Personally, I think we should not be responding to CSS, because I honestly believe we're only making his mental illness worse, or at least, keeping him bound to it. Chris made his feelings known when he hid this place. Meanwhile, the lounge is very quiet. I think we as a community need to discuss what moderation means, and what needs to be moderated, in what way, to make this place not be owned by a few trolls. Perhaps if we all went away for a month or so, the trolls may give up and leave ?

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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