Copyrights for content of unknown source [modified]
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Ok, so vote me a 1. Since you have asked the question, you are aware that using the image is likely to put you in breach of copyright law. With this said, if you proceed to use the image for anything public, then you are laying yourself wide open for legal action - to which you would have no defense, having already expressed your concerns that what you are proposing to do would potentially be in breach of the law. Do you have good liability insurance? Even that may not help as the insurers may consider that your actions were deliberately in breach of the conditions of insurance, and refuse to pay out. "If in doubt..." You know the rest! Sorry :rolleyes:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
you are aware that using the image is likely to put you in breach of copyright law
I agree with this, but knowing the situation, and taking reasonable steps (as I mentioned above), should allow one to be on the safe side of the law.
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I have an image that I want to use, the trouble is I can't remember where I got the image from, and I can't really think of anyway of tracking down the artist. It's a fairly abstract picture so it's got no obvious search terms. I spotted it years ago and downloaded it as a desktop background as it looked cool. Now I want to use it for something that will be public, and I'm concerned there is a small chance that the artist will spot it and take offence that I've used his work without consent. I know the proper answer is probably, 'if in doubt, don't use it', but that's not what I want to hear so I will personally vote you 1 if you tell me that ;) I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas.
Simon
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:35 AM
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Ok, so vote me a 1. Since you have asked the question, you are aware that using the image is likely to put you in breach of copyright law. With this said, if you proceed to use the image for anything public, then you are laying yourself wide open for legal action - to which you would have no defense, having already expressed your concerns that what you are proposing to do would potentially be in breach of the law. Do you have good liability insurance? Even that may not help as the insurers may consider that your actions were deliberately in breach of the conditions of insurance, and refuse to pay out. "If in doubt..." You know the rest! Sorry :rolleyes:
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I think unfortunately this is the crux of the problem, without proper permission, I shouldn't use the image. As much as I try and convince my self that "unknown attribution" is good enough, it clearly won't be in the eyes of the law if the artist does turn up and decide to push the matter. In all probability if the artist were to spot it, he/she would be totally OK with an updated attribution (This isn't like a famous painting or anything of any real value, it is just an abstract scribble that happens to look good and fit nicely in the style of a project I'm working on). However, I do need to consider that if the artist isn't happy with it, he would be totally within his rights to sue, so for the sake of being 100% on the right side, I just have to find a different image. [5'd for a good answer - even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear ;P ]
Simon
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How about putting a comical copyright in:
Copyright (c) - Unknown Artist
P.S. If you are the artist sorry, but the CIA couldn't track you down.
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:laugh: It's tempting, but I think to be on the safe side, I'm just going to have to find something else. Just in case the artist turns out to be not so understanding.
Simon
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IMO, attribution, even to a unknown source, is better than nothing. (maybe someone can point you to the origin)
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maybe someone can point you to the origin
without seeing it, just based on a poor description ("a fairly abstract picture"), that may be tough. :confused:
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I have an image that I want to use, the trouble is I can't remember where I got the image from, and I can't really think of anyway of tracking down the artist. It's a fairly abstract picture so it's got no obvious search terms. I spotted it years ago and downloaded it as a desktop background as it looked cool. Now I want to use it for something that will be public, and I'm concerned there is a small chance that the artist will spot it and take offence that I've used his work without consent. I know the proper answer is probably, 'if in doubt, don't use it', but that's not what I want to hear so I will personally vote you 1 if you tell me that ;) I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas.
Simon
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:35 AM
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Ohh...Nice...Definitely worth a try. Thanks.
Simon
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IMO, attribution, even to a unknown source, is better than nothing. (maybe someone can point you to the origin)
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I have an image that I want to use, the trouble is I can't remember where I got the image from, and I can't really think of anyway of tracking down the artist. It's a fairly abstract picture so it's got no obvious search terms. I spotted it years ago and downloaded it as a desktop background as it looked cool. Now I want to use it for something that will be public, and I'm concerned there is a small chance that the artist will spot it and take offence that I've used his work without consent. I know the proper answer is probably, 'if in doubt, don't use it', but that's not what I want to hear so I will personally vote you 1 if you tell me that ;) I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas.
Simon
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:35 AM
Simon Stevens wrote:
a fairly abstract picture
You can't create your own?
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Simon Stevens wrote:
a fairly abstract picture
You can't create your own?
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
You can't create your own?
You would think, wouldn't you. Unfortunately as soon as I open any kind of graphics package I seem to lose all co-ordination in my mouse hand, my IQ drops by about 80 points and I become a gibbering vegetable. I actually uninstall paint from my development machine because it's mere presence on the system impacts my productivity.
Simon
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
You can't create your own?
You would think, wouldn't you. Unfortunately as soon as I open any kind of graphics package I seem to lose all co-ordination in my mouse hand, my IQ drops by about 80 points and I become a gibbering vegetable. I actually uninstall paint from my development machine because it's mere presence on the system impacts my productivity.
Simon
Graphics tablet? If it's used for a work-related purpose... If you're that bad when it comes to drawing with the mouse, what about drawing it on paper, scanning it in and somehow making the computer trace over it? I hear Paint.Net does something like this, with the right effects. Or alternatively, have a crack at it and if it looks bad enough, enter it for the Turner Prize;
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
You can't create your own?
You would think, wouldn't you. Unfortunately as soon as I open any kind of graphics package I seem to lose all co-ordination in my mouse hand, my IQ drops by about 80 points and I become a gibbering vegetable. I actually uninstall paint from my development machine because it's mere presence on the system impacts my productivity.
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
Unfortunately as soon as I open any kind of graphics package I seem to lose all co-ordination in my mouse hand, my IQ drops by about 80 points and I become a gibbering vegetable
Yeap that's exactly like me. As soon as I do anything that involves creating graphics my brain goes on an automatic shutdown. Which is annoying, because I can picture in my mind what I want to do, or what I want something to look like, I just can't.....do it. Damn brain.
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Simon Stevens wrote:
Unfortunately as soon as I open any kind of graphics package I seem to lose all co-ordination in my mouse hand, my IQ drops by about 80 points and I become a gibbering vegetable
Yeap that's exactly like me. As soon as I do anything that involves creating graphics my brain goes on an automatic shutdown. Which is annoying, because I can picture in my mind what I want to do, or what I want something to look like, I just can't.....do it. Damn brain.
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
As soon as I do anything that involves creating graphics my brain goes on an automatic shutdown. Which is annoying, because I can picture in my mind what I want to do, or what I want something to look like, I just can't.....do it.
You have to regress. In one of those annoyingly cutesy programmes where they interview short people about all sorts of stuff, one little chap (at least I think it was a chap, could have been a chappess though) when asked how he knew what to draw, said. "I think about it for a bit, then I just draw my thinks." Obvious really. :)
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
As soon as I do anything that involves creating graphics my brain goes on an automatic shutdown. Which is annoying, because I can picture in my mind what I want to do, or what I want something to look like, I just can't.....do it.
You have to regress. In one of those annoyingly cutesy programmes where they interview short people about all sorts of stuff, one little chap (at least I think it was a chap, could have been a chappess though) when asked how he knew what to draw, said. "I think about it for a bit, then I just draw my thinks." Obvious really. :)
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Henry Minute wrote:
one little chap (at least I think it was a chap, could have been a chappess though)
If you're undecided it was probably a chappess. :|
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
You can't create your own?
You would think, wouldn't you. Unfortunately as soon as I open any kind of graphics package I seem to lose all co-ordination in my mouse hand, my IQ drops by about 80 points and I become a gibbering vegetable. I actually uninstall paint from my development machine because it's mere presence on the system impacts my productivity.
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
I seem to lose all co-ordination
That's all right Simon, don't feel alone with this problem, I like paint.net for screen copy, paste, print, close. That being the sum total of my graphics skills.
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I have an image that I want to use, the trouble is I can't remember where I got the image from, and I can't really think of anyway of tracking down the artist. It's a fairly abstract picture so it's got no obvious search terms. I spotted it years ago and downloaded it as a desktop background as it looked cool. Now I want to use it for something that will be public, and I'm concerned there is a small chance that the artist will spot it and take offence that I've used his work without consent. I know the proper answer is probably, 'if in doubt, don't use it', but that's not what I want to hear so I will personally vote you 1 if you tell me that ;) I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas.
Simon
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:35 AM
Go ahead and publish it; "owners" will be coming out of the woodwork. Then claim you saw it in a vision while having tea with God Sunday morning and thought it was a gift. They'll leave you alone.
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I have an image that I want to use, the trouble is I can't remember where I got the image from, and I can't really think of anyway of tracking down the artist. It's a fairly abstract picture so it's got no obvious search terms. I spotted it years ago and downloaded it as a desktop background as it looked cool. Now I want to use it for something that will be public, and I'm concerned there is a small chance that the artist will spot it and take offence that I've used his work without consent. I know the proper answer is probably, 'if in doubt, don't use it', but that's not what I want to hear so I will personally vote you 1 if you tell me that ;) I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas.
Simon
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:35 AM
You have no friends who can draw ? Also, on a long shot you could post the image in question somewhere and give us a link to it. I'm curious now as to what it looks like. If it was online, maybe someone here will have some idea to finding the origin. Was the original filename kept, by any chance? edit: I sometimes open a graphics file in notepad and find all kinds of interesting items in plain text, sometimes the artists' name, the editing package, a company name, etc.
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I have an image that I want to use, the trouble is I can't remember where I got the image from, and I can't really think of anyway of tracking down the artist. It's a fairly abstract picture so it's got no obvious search terms. I spotted it years ago and downloaded it as a desktop background as it looked cool. Now I want to use it for something that will be public, and I'm concerned there is a small chance that the artist will spot it and take offence that I've used his work without consent. I know the proper answer is probably, 'if in doubt, don't use it', but that's not what I want to hear so I will personally vote you 1 if you tell me that ;) I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas.
Simon
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:35 AM
Do you have a blog with reasonable traffic or anything else you could post a copy of the image and a 'where is this from?' query?
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I have an image that I want to use, the trouble is I can't remember where I got the image from, and I can't really think of anyway of tracking down the artist. It's a fairly abstract picture so it's got no obvious search terms. I spotted it years ago and downloaded it as a desktop background as it looked cool. Now I want to use it for something that will be public, and I'm concerned there is a small chance that the artist will spot it and take offence that I've used his work without consent. I know the proper answer is probably, 'if in doubt, don't use it', but that's not what I want to hear so I will personally vote you 1 if you tell me that ;) I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas.
Simon
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:35 AM
have you tried the "similar image search" in Google? [http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/](<a href=)[^]">
