iPhone 3G (not S) vs. Blackberry Bold
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
Go the Blackberry 8900 instead.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
I have a Bold. I chose it specifically because I wanted a real keyboard instead of the touch screen keyboard. It's solid for handling email (sometimes I get my Gmail messages on my Bold before they show up in Gmail). Its Web browser does just fine (I use it to view Google Reader, yelp.com, and Google Maps extensively while traveling). The only drawbacks (IMO) are: (1) the screen size: whereas the iPhone's screen is approximately the size of the entire device, the Bold's screen is < 1/2 of the size of the device (due to the presence of the physical keyboard) (2) the still camera: it leaves a lot to be desired in terms of photo quality. The video camera does a decent job of taking videos, though. I don't own an iPhone, so hopefully someone else can chime in on its behalf. I know people who own them that absolutely LOVE them. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you can live with the virtual keyboard, then either phone is a safe bet.
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
Chris, I don't have nor know anything about either, however, two guys here at the office have told me the iPhone is the way to go, because of the available applications. I guess that might be something (else) to take into consideration for this stuff; if you're into all that. So before you make a decision, consider hitting the iPhone store to see what's out there, that might be useful to you ... Just a thought, D.
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
I own an iPhone and have been very pleased. The touch-screen keypad is good, but the BlackBerry keyboard is probably a little better. The big issue with the touch-screen key pad is the need to switch between "views" to get to some keys (e.g. numbers & some symbols #$%,etc.) After 30 minutes of use, I no longer wanted a tactile keyboard. One other down-side to the iPhone is the lack of integration with Exchange over the web as is readily available with the Blackberry. I can connect to Exchange via iTunes, but only while connected to my PC. I can access Outlook WebAccess, which is what I do, but I would like to be able to just get my corporate email on the device. I've gotten use to that nuisance, but it is a minor issue. Apparently, Apple now does have some type of Exchange/Outlook WebAccess connector, but I haven't tried it out yet. One final small issue is that the iPhone does not have real GPS, but instead uses the cellular network for location awareness. The Google maps app provided works very well though and all the other location aware apps work well. Other than the keyboard being a little less optimal and the Exchange connectivity issue, I find the iPhone to be far superior to the Blackberry in every other way. (NOTE: I've never owned a Blackberry, but I've worked with them at the office and helped others with them, so my experience is not as extensive.) I find myself using the iPhone in ways I never imagined. The available apps are mind-boggling and many are quite usefull (to me). My wife has lots of games, recipe programs, etc for hers. I have mortgage calculators, levels, movie times, hotel finders, etc. So, my take on it is this: If you absolutely need Exchange connectivity, get the BlackBerry. If you just gotta have a tactile keyboard, get the BlackBerry. Otherwise, get the iPhone. Oh yea, the iPhone might end up costing a little more than a Blackberry, though a quick poll of my office-mates who have BlackBerry devices indicates that the cost is fairly coparable.
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
I'd throw my vote in for iPhone too, having had my 3G for nearly a year now. I've never owned a Blackberry, but I know plenty of people who are happy with them, also quite a few come back to the IT department at our workplace with unresponsive rollerballs, poor to no reception etc.
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I own an iPhone and have been very pleased. The touch-screen keypad is good, but the BlackBerry keyboard is probably a little better. The big issue with the touch-screen key pad is the need to switch between "views" to get to some keys (e.g. numbers & some symbols #$%,etc.) After 30 minutes of use, I no longer wanted a tactile keyboard. One other down-side to the iPhone is the lack of integration with Exchange over the web as is readily available with the Blackberry. I can connect to Exchange via iTunes, but only while connected to my PC. I can access Outlook WebAccess, which is what I do, but I would like to be able to just get my corporate email on the device. I've gotten use to that nuisance, but it is a minor issue. Apparently, Apple now does have some type of Exchange/Outlook WebAccess connector, but I haven't tried it out yet. One final small issue is that the iPhone does not have real GPS, but instead uses the cellular network for location awareness. The Google maps app provided works very well though and all the other location aware apps work well. Other than the keyboard being a little less optimal and the Exchange connectivity issue, I find the iPhone to be far superior to the Blackberry in every other way. (NOTE: I've never owned a Blackberry, but I've worked with them at the office and helped others with them, so my experience is not as extensive.) I find myself using the iPhone in ways I never imagined. The available apps are mind-boggling and many are quite usefull (to me). My wife has lots of games, recipe programs, etc for hers. I have mortgage calculators, levels, movie times, hotel finders, etc. So, my take on it is this: If you absolutely need Exchange connectivity, get the BlackBerry. If you just gotta have a tactile keyboard, get the BlackBerry. Otherwise, get the iPhone. Oh yea, the iPhone might end up costing a little more than a Blackberry, though a quick poll of my office-mates who have BlackBerry devices indicates that the cost is fairly coparable.
Regarding exchange, you can add an exchange account very easily, there's a specific wizard for it already there. Tried it out with my work account when they got it running for our work's Blackberries. I quickly deleted it, if they want me contactable in that way then they can buy me a Blackberry, the iPhone is my personal device!
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
My wife and sister got the 1st gen iPhone, for help navigating around on a small tour they made of the west coast. So they needed the browser (for gmap, etc), and email, as well as phone usage. They were really happy with it, and felt the browser was really usable and easy to read. Not sure if that helps, but there's my $0.002 (adjusted for inflation).
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
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Regarding exchange, you can add an exchange account very easily, there's a specific wizard for it already there. Tried it out with my work account when they got it running for our work's Blackberries. I quickly deleted it, if they want me contactable in that way then they can buy me a Blackberry, the iPhone is my personal device!
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Phannon wrote:
Regarding exchange, you can add an exchange account very easily, there's a specific wizard for it already there.
Are you talking about this one? http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/[^] My company doesn't support iPhone for the enterprise email. Do you know any other way to make that work?
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Phannon wrote:
Regarding exchange, you can add an exchange account very easily, there's a specific wizard for it already there.
Are you talking about this one? http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/[^] My company doesn't support iPhone for the enterprise email. Do you know any other way to make that work?
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Yep, that option at the top there (of the screenshot). Passed it to our IT guy and he filled it in (think it was just user, pwd, servername) and I was getting "pushed" emails, just like a Blackberry. But sorry no, I don't know much beyond that.
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
I got a Nokia E71X from AT&T about a month ago - works really well, includes 802.11g, GPS and a keyboard that is very easy to use (no touchscreen). Only thing that I don't like is the battery life (2 days max before it need recharging) mostly due to it going out and checking for new e-mails 2 or 3 times a minute. Web browsing is very easy and bluetooth connection to my Nokia N810 works well. Useful applications include OpenOffice and PDF Reader. AT&T classifies the phone as a PDA, so you have to get a PDA plan (5GB / month) and since I use the phone with my N810 and sometimes with my laptop or desktop (when the cable goes out), I had to get the PDA plan with tethering (~$60 / month) + the phone plan. I upgraded from my Nokia 6682 with a phone plan > $40, so I got the new phone for just $50. :thumbsup:
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Go the Blackberry 8900 instead.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Really? I have the Bold and the 8900 as options, but I thought with the Bold being 3G it would be a better choice. What makes the 8900 the pick of the litter?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
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Chris, I don't have nor know anything about either, however, two guys here at the office have told me the iPhone is the way to go, because of the available applications. I guess that might be something (else) to take into consideration for this stuff; if you're into all that. So before you make a decision, consider hitting the iPhone store to see what's out there, that might be useful to you ... Just a thought, D.
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Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLHadn't thought of that, thanks. And of course, I could always get rich developing iPhones apps, right? :)
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
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I own an iPhone and have been very pleased. The touch-screen keypad is good, but the BlackBerry keyboard is probably a little better. The big issue with the touch-screen key pad is the need to switch between "views" to get to some keys (e.g. numbers & some symbols #$%,etc.) After 30 minutes of use, I no longer wanted a tactile keyboard. One other down-side to the iPhone is the lack of integration with Exchange over the web as is readily available with the Blackberry. I can connect to Exchange via iTunes, but only while connected to my PC. I can access Outlook WebAccess, which is what I do, but I would like to be able to just get my corporate email on the device. I've gotten use to that nuisance, but it is a minor issue. Apparently, Apple now does have some type of Exchange/Outlook WebAccess connector, but I haven't tried it out yet. One final small issue is that the iPhone does not have real GPS, but instead uses the cellular network for location awareness. The Google maps app provided works very well though and all the other location aware apps work well. Other than the keyboard being a little less optimal and the Exchange connectivity issue, I find the iPhone to be far superior to the Blackberry in every other way. (NOTE: I've never owned a Blackberry, but I've worked with them at the office and helped others with them, so my experience is not as extensive.) I find myself using the iPhone in ways I never imagined. The available apps are mind-boggling and many are quite usefull (to me). My wife has lots of games, recipe programs, etc for hers. I have mortgage calculators, levels, movie times, hotel finders, etc. So, my take on it is this: If you absolutely need Exchange connectivity, get the BlackBerry. If you just gotta have a tactile keyboard, get the BlackBerry. Otherwise, get the iPhone. Oh yea, the iPhone might end up costing a little more than a Blackberry, though a quick poll of my office-mates who have BlackBerry devices indicates that the cost is fairly coparable.
Good stuff man, thanks.
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
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I'm considering these two phones via AT&T, primarily for email, browsing, and well, you know, phone calls. iPhone is new and sexy, but I'm not wild about touch screen (i.e. non tactile) interfaces. Other than that, I don't have any real feel for which would be a better choice. Any thoughts?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
I've got an iphone sitting disused on the shelf in my office. I tried to give it to my wife and she didn't like it herself. For me the problem was a complete lack of features I want in a device at the time. I don't know about the Bold by a good friend of mine loves his.
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I got a Nokia E71X from AT&T about a month ago - works really well, includes 802.11g, GPS and a keyboard that is very easy to use (no touchscreen). Only thing that I don't like is the battery life (2 days max before it need recharging) mostly due to it going out and checking for new e-mails 2 or 3 times a minute. Web browsing is very easy and bluetooth connection to my Nokia N810 works well. Useful applications include OpenOffice and PDF Reader. AT&T classifies the phone as a PDA, so you have to get a PDA plan (5GB / month) and since I use the phone with my N810 and sometimes with my laptop or desktop (when the cable goes out), I had to get the PDA plan with tethering (~$60 / month) + the phone plan. I upgraded from my Nokia 6682 with a phone plan > $40, so I got the new phone for just $50. :thumbsup:
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Steve Mayfield wrote:
AT&T classifies the phone as a PDA, so you have to get a PDA plan (5GB / month) and since I use the phone with my N810 and sometimes with my laptop or desktop (when the cable goes out), I had to get the PDA plan with tethering (~$60 / month) + the phone plan.
I've been able to get around this with ATT via a corporate program. We ordered my wife's Fuze that way without having to modify or upgrade our vanilla family plan. Pretty sweet.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Really? I have the Bold and the 8900 as options, but I thought with the Bold being 3G it would be a better choice. What makes the 8900 the pick of the litter?
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!
Personally I find the Bold's 8800 style keyboard awful to use. The Curve II's keyboard (8900) comes from the Curve and I find is much nicer. While the 8900/Curve II isn't 3G I've not really missed it (nor the reduced battery life). It has WiFi so when I'm at home or he office I go through this which is much fast than what 3G can provide anyway. If I'm surfing on the road then it's an emergency and any speed will do. The one caveat being that while trying to use the GPS / Google Maps over 2G it's pretty slow to download maps. That can be annoying, but again, I only do that in absolute emergencies and after at least the required hour of "Hang on - I think this is the way we go" tactics. [Edit: How much battery life do you need? iPhone = a day. Blackberry = a week]
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hadn't thought of that, thanks. And of course, I could always get rich developing iPhones apps, right? :)
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I could always get rich developing iPhones apps, right?
You and the other 1 million app developers out there.
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