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    KaRl
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    Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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      Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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      Tim Smith
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      The answer depends on the type of King/Queen. For example, in Britan, the king/queen has very little real power. Were as in other places they are the center of power. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture

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        Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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        Wouter Dhondt
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        Folklore! A King/Queen had very little power nowadays. In Belgium we had this incident where the King refused to sign a law on abortion. So they moved him aside for 3 days, and got the law through without him. New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking

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          The answer depends on the type of King/Queen. For example, in Britan, the king/queen has very little real power. Were as in other places they are the center of power. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture

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          Brian Delahunty
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          Tim Smith wrote: For example, in Britan, the king/queen has very little real power. Were as in other places they are the center of power. Over here the President doesn't have all that much power.. Well. .thats not exactly true... she can disband the government and a law can't be passed without her approval [which she basically just gives...]. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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            Folklore! A King/Queen had very little power nowadays. In Belgium we had this incident where the King refused to sign a law on abortion. So they moved him aside for 3 days, and got the law through without him. New and improved: kwakkelflap.com "When I hear of Schrödinger's cat, I reach for my gun." - Stephen Hawking

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            KaRl
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            Don't you consider the King as useless (and costly) ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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              Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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              Joe Woodbury
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              One word: Tourism.

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                Don't you consider the King as useless (and costly) ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                Brian Delahunty
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                Karl wrote: (and costly) Yep. I'd say they are. My guess is it's more for nostalgic reason Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                  Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                  Black Cat
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                  Question: "What is the purpose of a Queen and a King?" Answer: "To make a beautiful princess". :laugh:

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                    Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                    In the uk, its was interesting a while ago when the previous 10 prime ministers met. They revealed that the queen was very knowledgable and helped provide continuity from one PM to the next in terms of the 'insider' information and guidance. Her opinion is genuinely sought after by them. Also, she was the only person in the ocuntry Margaret Thatcher was scared of ! In addition, if you watched the jubilee celebrations, you would have seen that good royalty can bring a nation together in ways politicians can't. Elaine (flag waving fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                      Question: "What is the purpose of a Queen and a King?" Answer: "To make a beautiful princess". :laugh:

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                      Brian Delahunty
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                      Black Cat wrote: "To make a beautiful princess". Thinking with one thing now, are we? ;-) ;-P Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                        In the uk, its was interesting a while ago when the previous 10 prime ministers met. They revealed that the queen was very knowledgable and helped provide continuity from one PM to the next in terms of the 'insider' information and guidance. Her opinion is genuinely sought after by them. Also, she was the only person in the ocuntry Margaret Thatcher was scared of ! In addition, if you watched the jubilee celebrations, you would have seen that good royalty can bring a nation together in ways politicians can't. Elaine (flag waving fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                        Those all sound like excellent points. Thanks! :) I have only one comment and this is strictly my opinion: If I were a taxpayer in the UK it would really bug me that the King/Queen is living so lavishly on my money simply as a "birth right". Technically they don't have to do anything.

                        Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap

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                          Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                          Simon Walton
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                          There's no reason whatsoever to keep our royal family apart from historical/patriotic and tourism reasons. Our Queen has very limited power, only making important decisions in very rare cases.

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                            Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                            Naresh Karamchetty
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                            Many countries with monarchs would say that they are symbols of the countries' heritage. In the past, European kings were the country. A country's border extended as far as the king was sovereign. In fact, there were some who wanted to make George Washington the first king of the United States. Luckily for all us Americans he refused. By not seeking a 3rd term, he was essentially the first person ever to completely voluntarily give up power. "What would this country be without this great land of our?" -Ronald Reagan

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                              Those all sound like excellent points. Thanks! :) I have only one comment and this is strictly my opinion: If I were a taxpayer in the UK it would really bug me that the King/Queen is living so lavishly on my money simply as a "birth right". Technically they don't have to do anything.

                              Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap

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                              David Wulff
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                              Mike Mullikin wrote: Technically they don't have to do anything They have all sorts of duties they must perform, they are not merely a face on our currency. As to the expense, who am I to care? I get what I want out of the system and put in what I am required to - seems pretty fair to me.


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                                Living in a Republic, I can't get the interest to be a subject of a Queen/King. For example, I don't get why someone would deserve something because he's born in a certain family. Because quiet half of the countries forming the European Union are still kingdoms, I suppose there's a reason to keep such an archaic habit, don't I ? So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                I think that monarchs are more likely to be honest people than politicians. Politicians are bad by default, and a monarch has 50% chances to be good ;P :beer:

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                                  In the uk, its was interesting a while ago when the previous 10 prime ministers met. They revealed that the queen was very knowledgable and helped provide continuity from one PM to the next in terms of the 'insider' information and guidance. Her opinion is genuinely sought after by them. Also, she was the only person in the ocuntry Margaret Thatcher was scared of ! In addition, if you watched the jubilee celebrations, you would have seen that good royalty can bring a nation together in ways politicians can't. Elaine (flag waving fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                  Trollslayer wrote: you would have seen that good royalty can bring a nation together in ways politicians can't If I remember well, wasn't UK the first of us to execute its king ? ;) So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                                    There's no reason whatsoever to keep our royal family apart from historical/patriotic and tourism reasons. Our Queen has very limited power, only making important decisions in very rare cases.

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                                    David Wulff
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                                    Our royal family (especially the Queen) is still very important. not so much for the running of the country, but for providing this necessary beast known as continuality (sp? word?). During the last world war the Monarchy were responsible for much of the raised moral or our country's citizens both at home and abroad - they stayed, standing tall with their heads raised high saying "give us your best shot". Sure royalism was bigger back then but even now the effect would be the same (moral spreads like the plague). It is the same thing many Americans have sought after 11/9 and found either through their patriotism to their flag or through their collective ego. We just have a slightly different approach to it all, but the basic cause and effect are ultimately the same. Outside of that the Monarchy is still a valued symbol for the Commonwealth and all that she stands for, and I hope we retain them for a long time to come.


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                                      Karl wrote: (and costly) Yep. I'd say they are. My guess is it's more for nostalgic reason Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                      I knew the "money argument" would work with an Anglo-saxon audience ;) So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                                        I think that monarchs are more likely to be honest people than politicians. Politicians are bad by default, and a monarch has 50% chances to be good ;P :beer:

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                                        Brian Delahunty
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                                        Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Politicians are bad by default Isn't that kinda generalising a lot Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                          I knew the "money argument" would work with an Anglo-saxon audience ;) So I came to find To end up this way Feeling like I'm God Feeling there's no way KoRn, "No Way"

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                                          David Wulff
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                                          :-D


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