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  • C Christopher Duncan

    I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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    Single Step Debugger
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    I also ran into this well known bug some time ago. For some reason Vista just doesn’t counts the pr0n.

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      I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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      wait...are you saying that the Vista install is reporting that it took 70GB? If so, you've got bigger problems than where the 40GB is that it seems to be missing...even 30GB is absolutely HUGE for a vista install...

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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        I've not actually checked, but I'm fairly certain alternate data streams aren't reported in the file size count. Not certain whether this is the cause though

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        • C Christopher Duncan

          I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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          I've been using this[^] little app for years. It absolutely r0cks

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          • C Christopher Duncan

            I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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            Luc Pattyn
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            Hi, there are lots of reasons why disk spaces always seem to be wrong somehow. 1. vendors like big numbers, they willingly substitute 1GB for 1000MB instead of 1024MB. To make sure what the actual size is: compare the disk size advertized with the disk size shown in Computer Management/Disk Management. 2. the partition(s) do not necessarily fill the disk; see again Disk Management. Many systems have a hidden boot partition, a (often hidden) restore partition, etc. 3. files use an integer number of sectors (=512B); however often sectors get allocated in clusters of 5 or more (FAT limits the number of sectors per partition to 65536, hence larger partition means larger sector, more space wasted). 4. folders need disk space too, AFAIK they are not accounted for disk space used in Explorer/Properties! :)

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              I've not actually checked, but I'm fairly certain alternate data streams aren't reported in the file size count. Not certain whether this is the cause though

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              While I am aware of alternate data streams in theory, I can't remember having seen one ever. Do you know of some examples in XP and Vista? :)

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              • C Christopher Duncan

                I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                If you have System Restore activated they can be there or you might have an extra partition on the hard disk.

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                  wait...are you saying that the Vista install is reporting that it took 70GB? If so, you've got bigger problems than where the 40GB is that it seems to be missing...even 30GB is absolutely HUGE for a vista install...

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  I've got about 7 gig in the Windows folder, 1 gig in program files, 30 gig in a virtual pc hard drives / config folder and some other odds & ends. So, roughly I have about 40g accounted for. 30 has gone missing.

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                    If you have System Restore activated they can be there or you might have an extra partition on the hard disk.

                    jhaga

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Only one partition, but I forgot to check system restore. I'll wager Vista enables it by default. Worth looking into - thanks!

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                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                      Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                      Would JDiskReport tell you?

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                      Probably, but I tend to avoid java utilities. Thanks, though!

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                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                        Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                        If you have System Restore activated they can be there or you might have an extra partition on the hard disk.

                        jhaga

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                        My bet is the system restore directory after having downloaded the most recent patches. Windows is surprisingly effective at making the restore folder invisible unless you really go looking for it. And yet it still leaves the dozens of uninstall folders mucking up the windows folder...

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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                          Chris Losinger
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                          i was actually wondering that myself, this week. i added up the sizes of all the folders, as reported by Explorer, and they didn't add up to the amount shown as used in C:\'s properties. and yeah, 30G sounds like the size of my discrepancy.

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                            Christopher Duncan
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                            Under the bed is more likely. Someone has to keep the monsters company. :)

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              Looks interesting, thanks!

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                                i was actually wondering that myself, this week. i added up the sizes of all the folders, as reported by Explorer, and they didn't add up to the amount shown as used in C:\'s properties. and yeah, 30G sounds like the size of my discrepancy.

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                                Christopher Duncan
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                                So far system restore sounds like the most likely culprit.

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                                  I've got about 7 gig in the Windows folder, 1 gig in program files, 30 gig in a virtual pc hard drives / config folder and some other odds & ends. So, roughly I have about 40g accounted for. 30 has gone missing.

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                                  kinar
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                                  Ahhh...I thought you meant this was a fresh install of vista... No idea

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                                  • C Christopher Duncan

                                    I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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                                    Is one reporting based on actual disk space used and there other reporting based on the byte size of the files? A file might only be 1k bytes but take up a cluster size of 4k for example. So lots and lots of small files can eat up a considerable amount of disk space. check properties on a file example: Size: 911 bytes (911 bytes) Size on disk: 4.00 KB (4,096 bytes)

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                                      I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      with a 150 gig hard drive. I

                                      They still make them that small ? :P

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                                        My bet is the system restore directory after having downloaded the most recent patches. Windows is surprisingly effective at making the restore folder invisible unless you really go looking for it. And yet it still leaves the dozens of uninstall folders mucking up the windows folder...

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                                        So how do you find the system restore directory...

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                                          I've installed Vista on a box (yes, I know, my first mistake) with a 150 gig hard drive. I've turned on settings to show hidden, system and other such files. Vista is reporting 80g free. Thing is, after inspecting the properties of every root level folder, including the hidden ones and the recycle bin, I can only account for around 40g. Anyone have an idea as to where the other 30 gig is hiding?

                                          Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua!

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                                          WinDirStat[^] will show you exactly where all your disk space has gone.

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